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| Which downloads should I get [message #899351] |
Tue, 31 July 2012 14:13  |
Jeff Schwarz
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Which Eclipse downloads should I get?
I am still not sure how to setup my C environment, but my friend has recommended I use Eclipse (and I had a good experience with Eclipse many years ago). I will be doing C coding for my math thesis (note: I have some programming experience, but not with full fledged languages which require whole development environments and libraries and compilers and whatnot linked together and then use make and .... whatever else is needed).
I want a copy of Eclipse to install on my 64-bit Windows 7 machine.
Does Eclipse run in a non-graphical interface? On the same machine, I have installed a product called Cygwin, which is a Linux/Unix type environment (or something like that), but it is command line only. I want to install Eclipse in there, too.
My final program will be running on a Gentoo Linux cluster. Gentoo Linux does not have a graphical UI, either. I do not know how many bits that OS is (I guess I can find out), but would like a copy of Eclipse for that platform as well. Will it run on a non-graphical Linux UI? Is there a graphical UI for Linux?
On the downloads page, I see "Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers", but that's for Windows only. If I look at that page, I see links for 32 and 64 bit Linux. For the Cygwin install, do I use 32 or 64 bit Linux install?
Oh, I'm so confused with all these questions! Please help me determine which downloads I need. Thank you.
How can I change my settings so my full first and last name does not display? I checked the control panel, but missed where to change my display name.
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| Re: Which downloads should I get [message #899362 is a reply to message #899351] |
Tue, 31 July 2012 14:34  |
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On 7/31/2012 8:14 AM, Jeff Schwarz wrote:
> Which Eclipse downloads should I get?
>
> I am still not sure how to setup my C environment, but my friend has
> recommended I use Eclipse (and I had a good experience with Eclipse many
> years ago). I will be doing C coding for my math thesis (note: I have
> some programming experience, but not with full fledged languages which
> require whole development environments and libraries and compilers and
> whatnot linked together and then use make and .... whatever else is
> needed).
Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers, it sounds like.
> I want a copy of Eclipse to install on my 64-bit Windows 7 machine.
This is all on http://eclipse.org/downloads/
> Does Eclipse run in a non-graphical interface? On the same machine, I
> have installed a product called Cygwin, which is a Linux/Unix type
> environment (or something like that), but it is command line only. I
> want to install Eclipse in there, too.
You'll need Cygwin, I think, for developing with Eclipse C/C++. You
should now begin to frequent the Eclipse CDT forum for help.
> My final program will be running on a Gentoo Linux cluster. Gentoo Linux
> does not have a graphical UI, either. I do not know how many bits that
> OS is (I guess I can find out), but would like a copy of Eclipse for
> that platform as well. Will it run on a non-graphical Linux UI? Is there
> a graphical UI for Linux?
You don't have to develop your application without benefit of GUI just
because it isn't a GUI app. However, developing an app for Gentoo on
Windows might present some challenges.
> On the downloads page, I see "Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers", but
> that's for Windows only. If I look at
> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-cc-developers/junor,
> I see links for 32 and 64 bit Linux. For the Cygwin install, do I use 32
> or 64 bit Linux install?
You said you were going to develop under Windows. If you wish to develop
under Linux, no matter, and you don't have to worry about the whole
Cygwin thing. Just download Eclipse for Linux. The bittedness just needs
to match the Java Runtime Environment you run it with. On a 64-bit
machine, you can do either 32- or 64-bit. You'll be much happier
developing on Linux in C/C++ especially if your product will run there.
> Oh, I'm so confused with all these questions! Please help me determine
> which downloads I need. Thank you.
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| Re: Which downloads should I get [message #899379 is a reply to message #899362] |
Tue, 31 July 2012 15:53 |
Jeff Schwarz
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Thanks for the reply RB.
Russell Bateman wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 10:34
Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers, it sounds like.
This is all on http://eclipse.org/downloads/
It doesn't have a clear - that I could understand - explanation of which ones I need for which platform, etc. Mostly, I'm too confused right now to understand any generic web pages.
Russell Bateman wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 10:34
You'll need Cygwin, I think, for developing with Eclipse C/C++. You
should now begin to frequent the Eclipse CDT forum for help.
I think that's where I'll head now, since I also still have questions about how to setup Cygwin, too.
Russell Bateman wrote on Tue, 31 July 2012 10:34
You don't have to develop your application without benefit of GUI just
because it isn't a GUI app. However, developing an app for Gentoo on
Windows might present some challenges.
You said you were going to develop under Windows. If you wish to develop
under Linux, no matter, and you don't have to worry about the whole
Cygwin thing. Just download Eclipse for Linux. The bittedness just needs
to match the Java Runtime Environment you run it with. On a 64-bit
machine, you can do either 32- or 64-bit. You'll be much happier
developing on Linux in C/C++ especially if your product will run there.
How can I change my settings so my full first and last name does not display? I checked the control panel, but missed where to change my display name.
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| Re: Which downloads should I get [message #899385 is a reply to message #899379] |
Tue, 31 July 2012 16:17 |
Jeff Schwarz
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BR, a second reading of your posting raises some more questions (if you don't mind). I really wasn't clear what I need.
Ultimately, I my code will execute on a non-graphical Gentoo Linux cluster. Since I can't develop on that machine, I I want to setup Eclipse to run in Cygwin (a Linux emulator). Can Eclipse run in Cygwin? Can it run in Cygwin if Cygwin doesn't have a graphical UI? If Cygwin doesn't have a graphical UI, then I will run Eclipse in Win7.
Thanks.
How can I change my settings so my full first and last name does not display? I checked the control panel, but missed where to change my display name.
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| Re: Which downloads should I get [message #899395 is a reply to message #899385] |
Tue, 31 July 2012 16:35 |
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On 7/31/2012 10:17 AM, Jeff Schwarz wrote:
> BR, a second reading of your posting raises some more questions (if you
> don't mind). I really wasn't clear what I need.
>
> Ultimately, I my code will execute on a non-graphical Gentoo Linux
> cluster. Since I can't develop on that machine, I I want to setup
> Eclipse to run in Cygwin (a Linux emulator). Can Eclipse run in Cygwin?
> Can it run in Cygwin if Cygwin doesn't have a graphical UI? If Cygwin
> doesn't have a graphical UI, then I will run Eclipse in Win7.
>
> Thanks.
First, I'm a very ancient C guy with decades of Unix/Linux experience,
but I abandoned that life 7 years ago for Java and web apps. I've never
developed in C under Eclipse. I've used Eclipse both under Windows (XP
and 7), but more under Linux (SuSE, RedHat, Ubuntu).
My understanding is that Cygwin is only to help the C experience on
Windows. You don't run Eclipse under Cygwin; you just use the Cygwin
command line just as you might (I always did) use the DOS command line
on that OS. It could be that Eclipse "sends" stuff out to make under
Cygwin, etc. You should ask for these details in the Eclipse CDT forum.
I don't know what your comfort level is with Linux versus Windows, but I
would always advise that you flee the latter for the Ubuntu desktop.
What you'll get there is GUI and Eclipse without the need to concern
yourself with Cygwin's pseudo nix environment. Also, you can run your
new application in a more native environment that will be much closer to
its final destination.
This said, if you're a fish out of water on Linux, you're better off
staying with Windows, but there will be a steep learning curve when you
reach the integration phase. Moving to Linux can help you flatten that a
bit.
Just my opinion; your mileage may vary.
Feel free to keep asking here, and in the Eclipse PDT forum where they
know way more about this than I do.
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