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Sat, 18 June 2011 18:37   |
 Ed Merks
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Hannes,
I've never used an editor that behaves as you describe. I don't think
the Eclipse one can be configured to behave this way. I'm not sure
which editor does behave that way but an external editor won't be well
integrated in the IDE, it will be, as the name suggests, external. Your
best bet is to get over it.
Hannes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> new to eclipse, I just installed it for using with the android SDK.
> Normally I'm a Windows developer, but for hobby purpose I want to
> break in android.
>
> Up to now ist not so difficult I thought before.
>
> But the Editor is very annoying to me. It has the behavior of a
> (Windows) notepad editor, not a code editor.
> What I mean is, it does not use virtual line space. If I press the
> down key, I want to move the cursor down to the same position on the
> next line, independent of there is text or not.
> The continually jumping back and forth is very strange to me.
>
> Is there a way to have a real code editor within eclipse?
> I read about the possibility to use an external editor, but what I'm
> looking for is to integrate another editor to the IDE.
>
> Thank you
> Hannes
Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/
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| (no subject) [message #686167 is a reply to message #685590] |
Sun, 19 June 2011 13:55 |
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Hi
Well, I almost only know Eclipse, and I do not know what 'real code
editor' should do ;)
You might try the block mode - that allows you to move the cursor as you
described (hit alt+shift+a on windows and linux, alt+cmd+a on the
mac).
Michael
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| (no subject) [message #686177 is a reply to message #685590] |
Mon, 20 June 2011 16:17 |
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On 17-Jun-11 14:19, Hannes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> new to eclipse, I just installed it for using with the android SDK.
> Normally I'm a Windows developer, but for hobby purpose I want to break
> in android.
>
> Up to now ist not so difficult I thought before.
>
> But the Editor is very annoying to me. It has the behavior of a
> (Windows) notepad editor, not a code editor.
> What I mean is, it does not use virtual line space. If I press the down
> key, I want to move the cursor down to the same position on the next
> line, independent of there is text or not.
> The continually jumping back and forth is very strange to me.
>
> Is there a way to have a real code editor within eclipse?
> I read about the possibility to use an external editor, but what I'm
> looking for is to integrate another editor to the IDE.
>
> Thank you
> Hannes
I try to structure my work in a source file to take advantage of what
Eclipse gives (like Content Assist) that's harder or non-existent in a
proper code editor such as Vim.
Yeah, it's too bad integrating Vim into Eclipse is a lost cause.
And I have to giggle every time someone enthusiastically points out that
there are a couple of vi options for Eclipse as if conferring what
mostly chases people away from vi somehow satisfieds vi users while in
truth, none of the real power (of ed in particular, but also
..exrc/.vimrc) is left.
Soon, however, there will no longer be any of us to remember vi/Vim (and
perhaps others though my own religious affiliation prohibits me from
pronouncing the word Emacs, hehehe) nor the drop-dead cool things that
environment can do that make of the Eclipse editor little more than
Notepad on steroids.
I feel your pain, but I deal with it by doing editing things in Vim
outside Eclipse and, often, discovery things (like Content Assist,
initial file creation) inside Eclipse.
Let the cat-calls begin!
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| (no subject) [message #686180 is a reply to message #685590] |
Tue, 21 June 2011 05:07 |
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 16:19:50 -0400, Hannes wrote:
> Hello,
>
> new to eclipse, I just installed it for using with the android SDK.
> Normally I'm a Windows developer
Perhaps it's best to stick to what you know until you are willing
to approach things from an open perspective.
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| Re: (no subject) [message #688019 is a reply to message #687996] |
Thu, 23 June 2011 17:42 |
Ed Merks
Messages: 33133
Registered: July 2009 |
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Hannes,<br>
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Comments below.<br>
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Hannes wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:itvotv$h9b$1@news.eclipse.org" type="cite">@Ed
Merks
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@Michael Pellaton
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if your are on Windows, try Visual Studio, Delphi or Bascom if you code
for AVRs.
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All of these IDEs have _real_ editors.
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It's always sad when I see religious zealots, who assert there's only
one true perspective and one right way. From your perspective, all the
incredibly useful features of JDT are of no value, while cursor
behavior in nonexistent white space is what defines "real code
editors". Granted, everyone is absolutely entitled to their
preferences---I'm a vi bigot so <b>must </b>have vi key bindings,
which I get by using vi plugin---but I'd not characterize my
preferences as wanting a "real editor" in juxtaposition to the sad
excuse for an editor that everyone else seems satisfied with. That's
just extremism that we can all better live without.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:itvotv$h9b$1@news.eclipse.org" type="cite"><br>
@Russell Bateman
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Thank you. I think that's what shall do: Use an external editor.
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It sounds like you missed Russell's point about not having all the
semantically rich support offered by JDT.<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:itvotv$h9b$1@news.eclipse.org" type="cite"><br>
@David Kerber
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Finally someone who understands me ;)
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I think you missed his point too. I interpret his comment as saying he
prefers it the way Eclipse behaves.<br>
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Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/
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