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WTP from 3.04 to 3.0.5 in Eclipse Ganymede/3.4.2 [message #542544] Fri, 25 June 2010 09:51 Go to next message
vlad.balan Missing name is currently offline vlad.balan Missing nameFriend
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Hello,

I have an installed Eclipse from "eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR2-win32.zip".

Looking in "installed software" i find that the accompanying WTP is 3.0.4

I see here ( http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.0/R-3 .0.5-20090521045405/ ) that there is an update for WTP from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5 that IS compatible with my Eclipse version if i look at the prerequisites section (they are exactly the same as these for 3.0.4 : http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.0/R-3 .0.4-20090213193639/)


But if a go to "installed software" and Update button, there is nothing related to WTP.


Any ideas?


Also in the "Available software" tab, there is nothing under the "Ganymede Update Site / web and java ee Development"
( although I guess here it is normal because here it should not display updates to installed software but only software not yet installed)

[Updated on: Fri, 25 June 2010 09:54]

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Re: WTP from 3.04 to 3.0.5 in Eclipse Ganymede/3.4.2 [message #542673 is a reply to message #542544] Fri, 25 June 2010 14:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Isaacs is currently offline Larry IsaacsFriend
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On 6/25/2010 5:51 AM, vlad.balan wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an installed Eclipse from "eclipse-jee-ganymede-SR2-win32.zip".
> Looking in "installed software" i find that the accompanying WTP is 3.0.4
>
> I see here
> ( http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.0/R-3 .0.5-20090521045405/
> ) that there is an update for WTP from 3.0.4 to 3.0.5 that IS compatible
> with my Eclipse version if i look at the prerequisites section (they are
> exactly the same as these for 3.0.4 :
> http://archive.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.0/R-3 .0.4-20090213193639/)
>
>
>
> But if a go to "installed software" and Update button, there is nothing
> related to WTP. Also in the "Available software" tab, there is nothing
> under the "Ganymede Update Site / web and java ee Development"
>
> Any ideas?
>

The policy of keeping multiple WTP update sites for major releases
started after Ganymede, so I believe that zip download is the only way
to get the WTP 3.0.5 update. Just download and extract into the
"dropins" folder of your 3.4.2 installation an restart Eclipse.

Cheers,
Larry

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Re: WTP from 3.04 to 3.0.5 in Eclipse Ganymede/3.4.2 [message #542712 is a reply to message #542673] Fri, 25 June 2010 16:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vlad.balan Missing name is currently offline vlad.balan Missing nameFriend
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In WTP 3.2 they call the zip files like the ones you find to donwload for 3.0.5 : "Traditional Zip Files for Web Tools Platform" and there is a new section "P2 repositories in zipped format files
"

I thought the dropins folder is for the more recent files found "P2 repositories in zipped format files
"
and those in "Traditional Zip Files for Web Tools Platform"
where for extracting in the "plugins" folder.

What's the difference between these sections? Also, are both made to be extracted to the "dropins" folder? In that case what is the difference between them?

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Re: WTP from 3.04 to 3.0.5 in Eclipse Ganymede/3.4.2 [message #542731 is a reply to message #542712] Fri, 25 June 2010 17:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Larry Isaacs is currently offline Larry IsaacsFriend
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On 6/25/2010 12:46 PM, vlad.balan wrote:
> In WTP 3.2 they call the zip files like the ones you find to donwload
> for 3.0.5 : "Traditional Zip Files for Web Tools Platform" and there is
> a new section "P2 repositories in zipped format files "
>
> I thought the dropins folder is for the more recent files found "P2
> repositories in zipped format files "
> and those in "Traditional Zip Files for Web Tools Platform" where for
> extracting in the "plugins" folder.
>
> What's the difference between these sections? Also, are both made to be
> extracted to the "dropins" folder? In that case what is the difference
> between them?

While I'm not well versed with what P2 is planned to or actually
implements in various versions of Eclipse, I believe the "P2
repositories in zipped format files" are for defining a local update
site that you can use to install or update plug-ins in the normal
fashion. Its advantage is that by using the normal "install" process,
dependencies can be addressed. It's my understanding that the "dropins"
folder is for "manually" adding to or updating Eclipse, i.e. the
"Traditional Zip Files". That's how I added WTP 3.0.5 to my Eclipse
Java EE 3.4.2 version. In this case, dependencies won't be an issue
since, as you noted, the 3.4.2 Java EE installation already has all the
required dependencies.

Cheers,
Larry

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Re: WTP from 3.04 to 3.0.5 in Eclipse Ganymede/3.4.2 [message #542992 is a reply to message #542712] Mon, 28 June 2010 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mauro Molinari is currently offline Mauro MolinariFriend
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Il 25/06/2010 18.46, vlad.balan ha scritto:
> What's the difference between these sections? Also, are both made to be
> extracted to the "dropins" folder? In that case what is the difference
> between them?

As Larry said, the P2 repositories are for installation via update
manager. The dropins folder, instead, is for manual installation of
plugins and it is equivalent to (but now preferred against) extracting
plugins directly into the "plugins" folder of the Eclipse installation.

Mauro.

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Re: WTP from 3.04 to 3.0.5 in Eclipse Ganymede/3.4.2 [message #543034 is a reply to message #542992] Mon, 28 June 2010 09:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vlad.balan Missing name is currently offline vlad.balan Missing nameFriend
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how do you use the p2 archived repositories to define a local update
site? how do you make the update manager know about these downoloaded files? maybe a "file://" syntax?

do you have such a precise example?

[Updated on: Mon, 28 June 2010 09:22]

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Re: WTP from 3.04 to 3.0.5 in Eclipse Ganymede/3.4.2 [message #543053 is a reply to message #543034] Mon, 28 June 2010 09:34 Go to previous message
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Il 28/06/2010 11.22, vlad.balan ha scritto:
> how do you use the p2 archived repositories? how do you make the update
> manager know about these downoloaded files? maybe a "file://" syntax?

Window | Preferences | Install/Update | Available Software Sites |
Add... | Archive...

Mauro.

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