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New to Eclipse MDT not to UML [message #539845]

Mon, 14 June 2010 05:21

mdr

Messages: 5
Registered: June 2010

Junior Member

Starting on a project to try and define a DSL for a project scope. Coming back to UML after a while and using Eclipse MDT for the first time - use Eclipse quite a bit however.

Wondering if anyone has suggestions regards a book that will get me up and running quickly. Am considering:

Eclipse Modeling Project: A Domain-Specific Language (DSL) Toolkit

Also noticed another introductory one:
EMF: Eclipse Modeling Framework

Any recommendations on either? Looks like the first one will be more helpful. i want to be able to get a good overview of various aspects before starting on the project.

Also trying to compare Eclipse MDT to Poseidon UML. Any suggestions on that? Maybe this is not the right forum for that but just thought would ask. I am quite confirmed on MDT however.

Also hoping to get an overview from the book on using XSLT to generate code from the schematics. Is that available under MDT quite 'flexibly'?

Thanks for your patience with my questions.

mdr

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Re: New to Eclipse MDT not to UML [message #539860 is a reply to message #539845]

Mon, 14 June 2010 07:03

Ed Willink

Messages: 7655
Registered: July 2009

Senior Member

Hi MDR

Eclipse MDT by itself does not provide the coverage you need.

Ecore Tools, or Papyrus will provide graphical editors.

Xtext will provide text editors.

Acceleo (the MTL implementation) should encourage you never to use
XSLT again.

The EMF book is good if you want to know about the details of EMF, but
there is much more to Eclipse modeling..

The DSL book has much broader coverage, but inevitably dates quite
quickly. In particular, the integration of Ecore and OCL is much better
in Helios.

There is no substitute for reading the tutorials on the Modeling
packages available in Helios and forming your own decision as to which
projects are mature enough for your circumstances. There is a lot of
good stuff, but some is a bit bleeding edge.

Regards

Ed Willink

On 14/06/2010 06:21, mdr wrote:
> Starting on a project to try and define a DSL for a project scope.
> Coming back to UML after a while and using Eclipse MDT for the first
> time - use Eclipse quite a bit however.
>
> Wondering if anyone has suggestions regards a book that will get me up
> and running quickly. Am considering:
>
> Eclipse Modeling Project: A Domain-Specific Language (DSL) Toolkit
> Also noticed another introductory one:
> EMF: Eclipse Modeling Framework
>
> Any recommendations on either? Looks like the first one will be more
> helpful. i want to be able to get a good overview of various aspects
> before starting on the project.
>
> Also trying to compare Eclipse MDT to Poseidon UML. Any suggestions on
> that? Maybe this is not the right forum for that but just thought would
> ask. I am quite confirmed on MDT however.
>
> Also hoping to get an overview from the book on using XSLT to generate
> code from the schematics. Is that available under MDT quite 'flexibly'?
>
> Thanks for your patience with my questions.
>
> mdr

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Re: New to Eclipse MDT not to UML [message #540059 is a reply to message #539860]

Mon, 14 June 2010 17:35

mdr

Messages: 5
Registered: June 2010

Junior Member

Thanks Ed -

I will try to sort through the details and figure out the scopes of each area. I was just wondering if there was a link or a book that is quite up to date - and gave the broad picture of modeling scopes in Eclipse which book or site (topic) should I consider.

But maybe I need to look it up and then ask more questions later.

Thanks. again.

monosij

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Re: New to Eclipse MDT not to UML [message #604987 is a reply to message #539860]

Mon, 14 June 2010 17:35

mdr

Messages: 5
Registered: June 2010

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