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Useability [message #48630] Mon, 11 August 2008 09:14 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: joerg.von.frantzius.artnology.com

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Hi,<br>
<br>
it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually useable for
me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling considerably.<br>
<br>
I'd have two remarks for the moment:<br>
<ol>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the "File"
/ "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment</li>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the context
menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<br>
</li>
<li>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and "Max
display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved if
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with
the defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed
to return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday
that DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be
reasonable here, e.g. 50 and 50.</li>
</ol>
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP to
get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
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Re: Useability [message #48668 is a reply to message #48630] Mon, 11 August 2008 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: joerg.von.frantzius.artnology.com

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Here's another few:<br>
<ol>
<li>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within the
SQL editor tabs</li>
<li>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing;
it's not clear what the default is here, are connections
auto-committing or not? <br>
</li>
<li>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs would
be good</li>
<li>A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would be
what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their
SQL...</li>
<li>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy to
clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice<br>
</li>
</ol>
Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
<br>
J&ouml;rg von Frantzius wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:g7ovs6$ivr$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>
it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually useable for
me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling considerably.<br>
<br>
I'd have two remarks for the moment:<br>
<ol>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
"File"
/ "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment</li>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
context
menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<br>
</li>
<li>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and "Max
display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved if
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with
the defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed
to return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday
that DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be
reasonable here, e.g. 50 and 50.</li>
</ol>
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP to
get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
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Re: Useability [message #48691 is a reply to message #48668] Mon, 11 August 2008 13:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey J=F6rg!

These are all great requests. Please do create Bugzilla entries for them =
and we can look at them for improvement in Galileo!

Thanks!
--Fitz
"J=F6rg von Frantzius" <joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com> wrote in =
message news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org...
Here's another few:

1.. There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within the =
SQL editor tabs=20
2.. Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing; =
it's not clear what the default is here, are connections auto-committing =
or not?=20

3.. "Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs would =
be good=20
4.. A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would be =
what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their =
SQL...=20
5.. In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy to =
clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice

Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?

Regards,
J=F6rg

J=F6rg von Frantzius wrote:=20
Hi,

it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually useable =
for me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling considerably.

I'd have two remarks for the moment:

1.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
"File" / "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment=20
2.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
context menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen

3.. Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
"Max display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved if =
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with the =
defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed to =
return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday that =
DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be reasonable =
here, e.g. 50 and 50.=20
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP =
to get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...

Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)

Regards,
J=F6rg



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are all great requests. Please do =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
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wrote in message <A=20
=
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pse.org</A>...</DIV>Here's=20
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<LI>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within the =
SQL=20
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<LI>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing; =
it's not=20
clear what the default is here, are connections auto-committing or =
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<LI>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs would =
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what=20
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SQL...=20
<LI>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy to=20
clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice<BR></LI></OL>Shall =
I open=20
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Bugzilla?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>J=F6rg<BR><BR>J=F6rg von=20
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fiddling=20
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<LI>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
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<LI>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
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Re: Useability [message #48749 is a reply to message #48691] Mon, 11 August 2008 16:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: joerg.von.frantzius.artnology.com

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Hi Brian,<br>
<br>
I opened the following, both enhancement requests and two bug reports:<br>
<br>
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<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<td class="first-child"><a name="b243769"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243769">243769</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">11:53:19 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Make SQL scrapbook more easily accessable </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243770"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243770">243770</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">11:57:07 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>"Max row count" and "Max display row count" should be the... </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243771"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243771">243771</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">11:59:38 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Execution of SQL should be more easily accessible </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_normal bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243775"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243775">243775</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:15:03 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">nor </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQL Resu </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Oracle timestamp not displayed </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243778"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243778">243778</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:19:15 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQL Resu </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Copy to clipboard of individual cell values </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243779"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243779">243779</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:23:50 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Support for auto-commit and commit/rollback buttons </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_normal bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243781"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243781">243781</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:29:59 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">nor </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Sou </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>NPE when expanding "Columns" node containing TIMESTAMP co...
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
<br>
<br>
Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:g7pf0k$bvh$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hey <font face="Times New Roman"
size="3">J&ouml;rg!</font></font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">These are all great requests. Please
do create Bugzilla entries for them and we can look at them for
improvement in Galileo!</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--Fitz</font></div>
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<div>"J&ouml;rg von Frantzius" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com">joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com</a>&gt;
wrote in message <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org">news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org</a>...</div>
Here's another few:<br>
<ol>
<li>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within
the SQL editor tabs </li>
<li>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing;
it's not clear what the default is here, are connections
auto-committing or not? <br>
</li>
<li>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs
would be good </li>
<li>A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would
be what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute
their SQL... </li>
<li>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy
to clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice<br>
</li>
</ol>
Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
<br>
J&ouml;rg von Frantzius wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:g7ovs6$ivr$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>
it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually useable for
me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling considerably.<br>
<br>
I'd have two remarks for the moment:<br>
<ol>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
"File" / "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment </li>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
context menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<br>
</li>
<li>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and
"Max display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved
if only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with
the defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed
to return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday
that DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be
reasonable here, e.g. 50 and 50. </li>
</ol>
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP to
get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
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Re: Useability [message #49029 is a reply to message #48749] Wed, 20 August 2008 17:36 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: brianf.sybase.com

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"J=F6rg von Frantzius" <joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com> wrote in =
message news:g7pplm$agf$1@build.eclipse.org...
Hi Brian,

I opened the following, both enhancement requests and two bug reports:

243769 11:53:19 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
Make SQL scrapbook more easily accessable =20
243770 11:57:07 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
"Max row count" and "Max display row count" should be the... =20
243771 11:59:38 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
Execution of SQL should be more easily accessible =20
243775 12:15:03 nor P3 PC NEW Data Too SQL Resu 1.6 --- =
Oracle timestamp not displayed =20
243778 12:19:15 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQL Resu 1.6 --- =
Copy to clipboard of individual cell values =20
243779 12:23:50 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
Support for auto-commit and commit/rollback buttons =20
243781 12:29:59 nor P3 PC NEW Data Too Data Sou 1.6 --- =
NPE when expanding "Columns" node containing TIMESTAMP co... =20

Regards,
J=F6rg


Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:=20
Hey J=F6rg!

These are all great requests. Please do create Bugzilla entries for =
them and we can look at them for improvement in Galileo!

Thanks!
--Fitz
"J=F6rg von Frantzius" <joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com> wrote =
in message news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org...
Here's another few:

1.. There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within =
the SQL editor tabs=20
2.. Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is =
missing; it's not clear what the default is here, are connections =
auto-committing or not?=20

3.. "Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs =
would be good=20
4.. A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would =
be what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their =
SQL...=20
5.. In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy =
to clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice

Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?

Regards,
J=F6rg

J=F6rg von Frantzius wrote:=20
Hi,

it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually =
useable for me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling =
considerably.

I'd have two remarks for the moment:

1.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
"File" / "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment=20
2.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
context menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen

3.. Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
"Max display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved if =
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with the =
defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed to =
return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday that =
DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be reasonable =
here, e.g. 50 and 50.=20
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with =
DTP to get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...

Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)

Regards,
J=F6rg





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<DIV>"J=F6rg von Frantzius" &lt;<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com">joerg.von.frantzius@art=
nology.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:g7pplm$agf$1@build.eclipse.org">news:g7pplm$agf$1@build.ecli=
pse.org</A>...</DIV>Hi=20
Brian,<BR><BR>I opened the following, both enhancement requests and =
two bug=20
reports:<BR><BR>
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<TBODY>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243769"=20
name=3Db243769>243769</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">11:53:19 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Make SQL scrapbook more easily accessable </TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243770"=20
name=3Db243770>243770</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">11:57:07 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>"Max row count" and "Max display row count" should be the... =
</TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243771"=20
name=3Db243771>243771</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">11:59:38 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Execution of SQL should be more easily accessible </TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_normal bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243775"=20
name=3Db243775>243775</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">12:15:03 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">nor </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQL Resu </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Oracle timestamp not displayed </TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243778"=20
name=3Db243778>243778</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">12:19:15 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQL Resu </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Copy to clipboard of individual cell values </TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243779"=20
name=3Db243779>243779</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">12:23:50 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Support for auto-commit and commit/rollback buttons </TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_normal bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243781"=20
name=3Db243781>243781</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">12:29:59 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">nor </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Sou </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>NPE when expanding "Columns" node containing TIMESTAMP co...=20
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>Regards,<BR>J=F6rg<BR> <BR><BR>Brian =
Fitzpatrick=20
wrote:=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>J=F6rg!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are all great requests. =
Please do create=20
Bugzilla entries for them and we can look at them for improvement in =

Galileo!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--Fitz</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>"J=F6rg von Frantzius" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com"=20
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A href=3D"news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org"=20
=
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org</A>...</DIV>=
Here's=20
another few:<BR>
<OL>
<LI>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within =
the SQL=20
editor tabs=20
<LI>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is =
missing; it's=20
not clear what the default is here, are connections =
auto-committing or=20
not? <BR>
<LI>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs =
would be=20
good=20
<LI>A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would =
be what=20
probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their =
SQL...=20
<LI>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy =
to=20
clipboard" on individual cells would be very =
nice<BR></LI></OL>Shall I=20
open some enhancement requests in=20
Bugzilla?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>J=F6rg<BR><BR>J=F6rg von Frantzius =
wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:g7ovs6$ivr$1@build.eclipse.org=20
type=3D"cite">Hi,<BR><BR>it took me quite a while to find out =
that DTP is=20
actually useable for me, but only after reading this newsgroup =
and=20
fiddling considerably.<BR><BR>I'd have two remarks for the =
moment:<BR>
<OL>
<LI>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
"File" /=20
"New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment=20
<LI>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
context=20
menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<BR>
<LI>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
"Max=20
display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be =
retrieved if=20
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started =
off with=20
the defaults, I issued a query against a large table which =
never=20
seemed to return, since all rows were fetched. That made me =
think=20
yesterday that DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults =
should=20
be reasonable here, e.g. 50 and 50. </LI></OL>These issues =
currently=20
make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP to get going =
quickly and=20
having a good impression while doing so...<BR><BR>Thanks in =
advance in=20
case these issues would be looked at=20
=
:-)<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>J=F6rg<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE ></BLOCKQUO=
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Re: Useability [message #592601 is a reply to message #48630] Mon, 11 August 2008 09:24 Go to previous message
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Here's another few:<br>
<ol>
<li>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within the
SQL editor tabs</li>
<li>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing;
it's not clear what the default is here, are connections
auto-committing or not? <br>
</li>
<li>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs would
be good</li>
<li>A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would be
what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their
SQL...</li>
<li>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy to
clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice<br>
</li>
</ol>
Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
<br>
J&ouml;rg von Frantzius wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:g7ovs6$ivr$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>
it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually useable for
me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling considerably.<br>
<br>
I'd have two remarks for the moment:<br>
<ol>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
"File"
/ "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment</li>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
context
menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<br>
</li>
<li>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and "Max
display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved if
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with
the defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed
to return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday
that DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be
reasonable here, e.g. 50 and 50.</li>
</ol>
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP to
get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
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Re: Useability [message #592611 is a reply to message #48668] Mon, 11 August 2008 13:32 Go to previous message
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Hey J=F6rg!

These are all great requests. Please do create Bugzilla entries for them =
and we can look at them for improvement in Galileo!

Thanks!
--Fitz
"J=F6rg von Frantzius" <joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com> wrote in =
message news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org...
Here's another few:

1.. There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within the =
SQL editor tabs=20
2.. Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing; =
it's not clear what the default is here, are connections auto-committing =
or not?=20

3.. "Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs would =
be good=20
4.. A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would be =
what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their =
SQL...=20
5.. In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy to =
clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice

Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?

Regards,
J=F6rg

J=F6rg von Frantzius wrote:=20
Hi,

it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually useable =
for me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling considerably.

I'd have two remarks for the moment:

1.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
"File" / "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment=20
2.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
context menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen

3.. Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
"Max display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved if =
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with the =
defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed to =
return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday that =
DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be reasonable =
here, e.g. 50 and 50.=20
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP =
to get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...

Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)

Regards,
J=F6rg



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are all great requests. Please do =
create=20
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Galileo!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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nology.com</A>&gt;=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org">news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.ecli=
pse.org</A>...</DIV>Here's=20
another few:<BR>
<OL>
<LI>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within the =
SQL=20
editor tabs=20
<LI>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing; =
it's not=20
clear what the default is here, are connections auto-committing or =
not? <BR>
<LI>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs would =
be good=20

<LI>A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would be =
what=20
probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their =
SQL...=20
<LI>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy to=20
clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice<BR></LI></OL>Shall =
I open=20
some enhancement requests in =
Bugzilla?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>J=F6rg<BR><BR>J=F6rg von=20
Frantzius wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:g7ovs6$ivr$1@build.eclipse.org=20
type=3D"cite">Hi,<BR><BR>it took me quite a while to find out that =
DTP is=20
actually useable for me, but only after reading this newsgroup and =
fiddling=20
considerably.<BR><BR>I'd have two remarks for the moment:<BR>
<OL>
<LI>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
"File" /=20
"New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment=20
<LI>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
context menu=20
of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<BR>
<LI>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
"Max=20
display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved =
if only=20
"Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with =
the=20
defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never =
seemed to=20
return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday =
that DTP=20
is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be reasonable =
here, e.g.=20
50 and 50. </LI></OL>These issues currently make it hard for =
anybody=20
unfamiliar with DTP to get going quickly and having a good =
impression while=20
doing so...<BR><BR>Thanks in advance in case these issues would be =
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Re: Useability [message #592629 is a reply to message #48691] Mon, 11 August 2008 16:35 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: joerg.von.frantzius.artnology.com

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Hi Brian,<br>
<br>
I opened the following, both enhancement requests and two bug reports:<br>
<br>
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<tbody>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<td class="first-child"><a name="b243769"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243769">243769</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">11:53:19 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Make SQL scrapbook more easily accessable </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243770"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243770">243770</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">11:57:07 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>"Max row count" and "Max display row count" should be the... </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243771"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243771">243771</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">11:59:38 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Execution of SQL should be more easily accessible </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_normal bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243775"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243775">243775</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:15:03 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">nor </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQL Resu </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Oracle timestamp not displayed </td>
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<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243778"
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<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:19:15 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQL Resu </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Copy to clipboard of individual cell values </td>
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<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:23:50 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">enh </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">SQLDevTo </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>Support for auto-commit and commit/rollback buttons </td>
</tr>
<tr class="bz_bugitem bz_normal bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<td class="first-child"> <a name="b243781"
href="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=243781">243781</a>
<span style="display: none;"></span> </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">12:29:59 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">nor </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">P3 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">PC </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">NEW </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Too </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">Data Sou </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">1.6 </td>
<td style="white-space: nowrap;">--- </td>
<td>NPE when expanding "Columns" node containing TIMESTAMP co...
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
<br>
<br>
Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:g7pf0k$bvh$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Hey <font face="Times New Roman"
size="3">J&ouml;rg!</font></font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">These are all great requests. Please
do create Bugzilla entries for them and we can look at them for
improvement in Galileo!</font></div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks!</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--Fitz</font></div>
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<div>"J&ouml;rg von Frantzius" &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com">joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com</a>&gt;
wrote in message <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org">news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org</a>...</div>
Here's another few:<br>
<ol>
<li>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within
the SQL editor tabs </li>
<li>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is missing;
it's not clear what the default is here, are connections
auto-committing or not? <br>
</li>
<li>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs
would be good </li>
<li>A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would
be what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute
their SQL... </li>
<li>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy
to clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice<br>
</li>
</ol>
Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
<br>
J&ouml;rg von Frantzius wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:g7ovs6$ivr$1@build.eclipse.org" type="cite">Hi,<br>
<br>
it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually useable for
me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling considerably.<br>
<br>
I'd have two remarks for the moment:<br>
<ol>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
"File" / "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment </li>
<li>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the
context menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<br>
</li>
<li>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and
"Max display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved
if only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with
the defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed
to return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday
that DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be
reasonable here, e.g. 50 and 50. </li>
</ol>
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP to
get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
J&ouml;rg<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
<br>
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Re: Useability [message #592750 is a reply to message #48749] Wed, 20 August 2008 17:36 Go to previous message
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Thanks J=F6rg!
"J=F6rg von Frantzius" <joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com> wrote in =
message news:g7pplm$agf$1@build.eclipse.org...
Hi Brian,

I opened the following, both enhancement requests and two bug reports:

243769 11:53:19 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
Make SQL scrapbook more easily accessable =20
243770 11:57:07 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
"Max row count" and "Max display row count" should be the... =20
243771 11:59:38 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
Execution of SQL should be more easily accessible =20
243775 12:15:03 nor P3 PC NEW Data Too SQL Resu 1.6 --- =
Oracle timestamp not displayed =20
243778 12:19:15 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQL Resu 1.6 --- =
Copy to clipboard of individual cell values =20
243779 12:23:50 enh P3 PC NEW Data Too SQLDevTo 1.6 --- =
Support for auto-commit and commit/rollback buttons =20
243781 12:29:59 nor P3 PC NEW Data Too Data Sou 1.6 --- =
NPE when expanding "Columns" node containing TIMESTAMP co... =20

Regards,
J=F6rg


Brian Fitzpatrick wrote:=20
Hey J=F6rg!

These are all great requests. Please do create Bugzilla entries for =
them and we can look at them for improvement in Galileo!

Thanks!
--Fitz
"J=F6rg von Frantzius" <joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com> wrote =
in message news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org...
Here's another few:

1.. There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within =
the SQL editor tabs=20
2.. Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is =
missing; it's not clear what the default is here, are connections =
auto-committing or not?=20

3.. "Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs =
would be good=20
4.. A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would =
be what probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their =
SQL...=20
5.. In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy =
to clipboard" on individual cells would be very nice

Shall I open some enhancement requests in Bugzilla?

Regards,
J=F6rg

J=F6rg von Frantzius wrote:=20
Hi,

it took me quite a while to find out that DTP is actually =
useable for me, but only after reading this newsgroup and fiddling =
considerably.

I'd have two remarks for the moment:

1.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
"File" / "New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment=20
2.. Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
context menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen

3.. Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
"Max display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be retrieved if =
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started off with the =
defaults, I issued a query against a large table which never seemed to =
return, since all rows were fetched. That made me think yesterday that =
DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults should be reasonable =
here, e.g. 50 and 50.=20
These issues currently make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with =
DTP to get going quickly and having a good impression while doing so...

Thanks in advance in case these issues would be looked at :-)

Regards,
J=F6rg





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Brian,<BR><BR>I opened the following, both enhancement requests and =
two bug=20
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<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">11:53:19 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Make SQL scrapbook more easily accessable </TD></TR>
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name=3Db243770>243770</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
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<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>"Max row count" and "Max display row count" should be the... =
</TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
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href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243771"=20
name=3Db243771>243771</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">11:59:38 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Execution of SQL should be more easily accessible </TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_normal bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_even">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243775"=20
name=3Db243775>243775</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">12:15:03 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">nor </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQL Resu </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Oracle timestamp not displayed </TD></TR>
<TR class=3D"bz_bugitem bz_enhancement bz_P3 bz_NEW bz_row_odd">
<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243778"=20
name=3Db243778>243778</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">12:19:15 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQL Resu </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">1.6 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>Copy to clipboard of individual cell values </TD></TR>
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<TD class=3Dfirst-child><A=20
href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243779"=20
name=3Db243779>243779</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">12:23:50 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">enh </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">SQLDevTo </TD>
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href=3D"https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=3D243781"=20
name=3Db243781>243781</A> <SPAN style=3D"DISPLAY: =
none"></SPAN></TD>
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<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">nor </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">P3 </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">PC </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">NEW </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Too </TD>
<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">Data Sou </TD>
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<TD style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: nowrap">--- </TD>
<TD>NPE when expanding "Columns" node containing TIMESTAMP co...=20
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Fitzpatrick=20
wrote:=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey <FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>J=F6rg!</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>These are all great requests. =
Please do create=20
Bugzilla entries for them and we can look at them for improvement in =

Galileo!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>--Fitz</FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: rgb(0,0,0) 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>"J=F6rg von Frantzius" &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com"=20
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com</A>&gt; =
wrote in=20
message <A href=3D"news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org"=20
=
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">news:g7p0e5$m1p$1@build.eclipse.org</A>...</DIV>=
Here's=20
another few:<BR>
<OL>
<LI>There should be a button for "Execute SQL" or similar within =
the SQL=20
editor tabs=20
<LI>Support for explicit configuration of auto-commit is =
missing; it's=20
not clear what the default is here, are connections =
auto-committing or=20
not? <BR>
<LI>"Commit" and "Rollback" buttons inside the SQL editor tabs =
would be=20
good=20
<LI>A keyboard shortcut of "Ctrl+Return" for executing SQL would =
be what=20
probably a good number of people are trying out to execute their =
SQL...=20
<LI>In the SQL results view, being able to right-click and "Copy =
to=20
clipboard" on individual cells would be very =
nice<BR></LI></OL>Shall I=20
open some enhancement requests in=20
Bugzilla?<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>J=F6rg<BR><BR>J=F6rg von Frantzius =
wrote:=20
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=3Dmid:g7ovs6$ivr$1@build.eclipse.org=20
type=3D"cite">Hi,<BR><BR>it took me quite a while to find out =
that DTP is=20
actually useable for me, but only after reading this newsgroup =
and=20
fiddling considerably.<BR><BR>I'd have two remarks for the =
moment:<BR>
<OL>
<LI>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
"File" /=20
"New..." menu, just as is "SQL file" at the moment=20
<LI>Creating an "SQL scrapbook" should be accessible from the =
context=20
menu of a database, auto-connecting it if chosen<BR>
<LI>Why is there a differentiation between "Max row count" and =
"Max=20
display row count", i.e. why should "Max row count" be =
retrieved if=20
only "Max display row count" rows are shown? When I started =
off with=20
the defaults, I issued a query against a large table which =
never=20
seemed to return, since all rows were fetched. That made me =
think=20
yesterday that DTP is totally unusable. At least the defaults =
should=20
be reasonable here, e.g. 50 and 50. </LI></OL>These issues =
currently=20
make it hard for anybody unfamiliar with DTP to get going =
quickly and=20
having a good impression while doing so...<BR><BR>Thanks in =
advance in=20
case these issues would be looked at=20
=
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