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Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472943] Tue, 12 September 2006 15:58 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hello,
I'm totally new to eclipse, and I see that finally there is a great effort
to give at the project a visual designer for web page, and overall for
jsf. I am a beginner of jsf, but I like it. Until now I used the Sun Java
Studio Creator, but it is not open source, so now because it is possible
to have a designer in eclipse, I decided to switch to yours.
Like I say I am completely new to the IDE, so my question is: how to build
the designer so I can use as plug in?
I read on the "bug" page where the designer is presented this sentence:

"The plugins here can then be imported to the workspace as source and run
as a
child workbench"


Can someone help me to do this, or give me step by step guide to use the
plugin, or point me on documentation?

Thanks in advance for the help and excuse me for my bad english.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472944 is a reply to message #472943] Tue, 12 September 2006 19:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cameron Bateman is currently offline Cameron BatemanFriend
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Hi Marco,

I should point out that the VPD has not been fully integrated yet which is
why it is hard to get up and going with it. In the mean time it is there
to try it out.

Try these steps:

1) Install the required version of Eclipse and WTP dependencies as listed
in the bug.
2) Load Eclipse.
3) From the Project Explorer, right-click and select Import...
4) In the Import dialog select "General -> Archive File" and click Next.
5) Click on the "Browse..." button next to the text field "From archive
file". Point it to the pagedesigner.zip
6) By default all projects will be selected. Click Finish.
7) Now go to Run->Run... Double-click on "Eclipse Application" to create
a new run configuration (which will appear as "New_configuration". Single
click on this and hit "Run" in the bottom right.
8) This will launch a new Eclipse session. From there, create a Dynamic
web project, create a new JSP file and launch it. This should launch the
visual editor by default. If it doesn't load be default, right-click on
the JSP file you want to open select Open With->Web Page Editor.


--Cam

> I read on the "bug" page where the designer is presented this sentence:
> "The plugins here can then be imported to the workspace as source and run
> as a
> child workbench"
> Can someone help me to do this, or give me step by step guide to use the
> plugin, or point me on documentation?
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472945 is a reply to message #472944] Tue, 12 September 2006 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,

first of all thank for your post and your attention. I'll try it and say
if it all goes well.
Now my second question is: every time that I want to use the visual page
designer, I must do all these operations?

Thanks in advance for your help.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante



> Hi Marco,

> I should point out that the VPD has not been fully integrated yet which is
> why it is hard to get up and going with it. In the mean time it is there
> to try it out.

> Try these steps:

> --Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472946 is a reply to message #472945] Tue, 12 September 2006 21:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Now my second question is: every time that I want to use the visual page
> designer, I must do all these operations?

Once you have done the import, you will only need to do the Run.. part in
future as long as you keep the workspace.

Again, please note that this page designer contribution has not yet been
integrated and released for use. Once the page designer is integrated,
you will only need to download everything from the website, unzip it and
run it. The zip file on the bug is only there for "preview"; it's not
intended for people to go off and use it in production yet.


--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472949 is a reply to message #472946] Wed, 13 September 2006 17:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hello Cam,
I do all the steps that you have written on the previous post but found a
problem. If I click on the jsp page and do the command Open with, there is
no page designer. I think that the problem is connected to an error that I
have received when I created the dynamic web project: it seems that the
system can't create jsf and I received this message box:

Failed while installing JavaServer Faces 1.1


If I click on "Details" button in the message box the error is:

java.lang.NullPointerException


Sincerely I don't understand why I received this error, maybe it is
connected to my beginner phase with the IDE.

Another question: you say to click "Import" in the "Project workspace".
What kind of project I must create? Infact in the "Import" dialog there is
a message that you must link the pagedesigner.zip file with an open
project.


Hope you can help me.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472950 is a reply to message #472949] Wed, 13 September 2006 20:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> Another question: you say to click "Import" in the "Project workspace".
> What kind of project I must create? Infact in the "Import" dialog there is
> a message that you must link the pagedesigner.zip file with an open
> project.

I think I gave you the wrong instructions for import. Instead of "Archive
File" try the "Existing Projects into Workspace". Select pagedesigner.zip
using the "Select archive file" field in the next page. This should cause
the four projects to appear in the "Projects" list below. Then hit finish
and continue on with the other instructions.


--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472951 is a reply to message #472950] Thu, 14 September 2006 07:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,
thanks for your continuous help. I tried to create a web dynamic project,
but I received the error that I write in the previous post regarding the
jsf. Now, I think I not installed well the jsf plugin, so I say what I do:

1. Downloaded the file
wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.0-200606281455-linux-gtk.tar.tar and extracted it
in my home directory.

2. Downloaded the file wtp-jsf-R-1.5.0-200606281455 and extracted it in
eclipse directory (and I remember it ask to overwrite some files).

Now my question: is this the good way to do or I must install the basic
jsf plugin in another way? I know that I can install the wtp related
package from a, say, clean installation of eclipse sdk, but it takes much
time with 56k, so I downloaded the first file that include all.


Hope you can help.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472952 is a reply to message #472951] Thu, 14 September 2006 17:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cameron Bateman is currently offline Cameron BatemanFriend
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The packages you have downloaded should work. That should provide
everything you need. Do you still get those JSF errors with these zips
installed?

--Cam

Marco Mangiante wrote:

> Hi Cam,
> thanks for your continuous help. I tried to create a web dynamic project,
> but I received the error that I write in the previous post regarding the
> jsf. Now, I think I not installed well the jsf plugin, so I say what I do:

> 1. Downloaded the file
> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.0-200606281455-linux-gtk.tar.tar and extracted it
> in my home directory.

> 2. Downloaded the file wtp-jsf-R-1.5.0-200606281455 and extracted it in
> eclipse directory (and I remember it ask to overwrite some files).

> Now my question: is this the good way to do or I must install the basic
> jsf plugin in another way? I know that I can install the wtp related
> package from a, say, clean installation of eclipse sdk, but it takes much
> time with 56k, so I downloaded the first file that include all.


> Hope you can help.

> --
> Regards,

> Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472953 is a reply to message #472952] Thu, 14 September 2006 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,

I still have the problem, but I do want some experimentation: I wanna do
the step by step instructions that are present in eclipse jsf
documentation for a simple hello world jsf application.
However, even with the error, eclipse load the project and if I add a jsp
file and click with right mouse click on it, the menu show the web page
editor shot. If I click on it I obtain a window similar to that of sybase
presentation of june, but if I show the "Palette", I have only html and
jsp voices and no jsf core and jsf html.
Have you some explanation for these two problems? Is there a simple sample
jsf application that I can download and try the web page designer on it?

Thank you very much for your patience and support.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante


P.S.: I'm using eclipse in kubuntu 6.06 with sun java 5 vm

> The packages you have downloaded should work. That should provide
> everything you need. Do you still get those JSF errors with these zips
> installed?

> --Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472954 is a reply to message #472953] Thu, 14 September 2006 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> I still have the problem, but I do want some experimentation: I wanna do
> the step by step instructions that are present in eclipse jsf
> documentation for a simple hello world jsf application.
> However, even with the error, eclipse load the project and if I add a jsp
> file and click with right mouse click on it, the menu show the web page
> editor shot. If I click on it I obtain a window similar to that of sybase

So do I understand correctly that have successfully loaded everything
except that the pallete for the visual editor does not contain core or
html?

If that is correct, then I think you will need to put a JSF implementation
on the on your class path. You can do this by downloading the
implementation JARS (a free one can be download from myfaces.apache.com)
and adding them as JSF component libraries. There should be information
about adding component libraries in the docs.

--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #472956 is a reply to message #472954] Mon, 18 September 2006 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,

> So do I understand correctly that have successfully loaded everything
> except that the pallete for the visual editor does not contain core or
> html?

> If that is correct, then I think you will need to put a JSF implementation
> on the on your class path. You can do this by downloading the
> implementation JARS (a free one can be download from myfaces.apache.com)
> and adding them as JSF component libraries. There should be information
> about adding component libraries in the docs.

Now it works. I have the palette with JSF Core and JSF HTML, but also have
other entries (now I'm not in front of the program, I write you the other
in another post). I followed your suggestion. Now I try to do some
experimentation.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #473661 is a reply to message #472944] Wed, 18 October 2006 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cameron Bateman wrote:
> Hi Marco,
>
> I should point out that the VPD has not been fully integrated yet which
> is why it is hard to get up and going with it. In the mean time it is
> there to try it out.
>
> Try these steps:
>
> 1) Install the required version of Eclipse and WTP dependencies as
> listed in the bug.
> 2) Load Eclipse.
> 3) From the Project Explorer, right-click and select Import...
> 4) In the Import dialog select "General -> Archive File" and click Next.
> 5) Click on the "Browse..." button next to the text field "From archive
> file". Point it to the pagedesigner.zip

in the bug page this file attachment is marked as obsolete... is it
available somewhere else?

thanks in advance

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Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #473663 is a reply to message #473661] Wed, 18 October 2006 17:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Jean created a new attachment with an updated code drop that is labelled
"Cleanup copyright issues". The link is
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=52153&ac tion=view.

Give that a try.


--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #473664 is a reply to message #473663] Fri, 20 October 2006 09:08 Go to previous message
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Cameron Bateman wrote:
> Jean created a new attachment with an updated code drop that is labelled
> "Cleanup copyright issues". The link is
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=52153&ac tion=view.
>
> Give that a try.
>

thanks I'll try it...

I thought it was only a patch and not a patched version.

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| http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite |
| http://www.gnu.org/software/gengetopt |
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| http://www.lorenzobettini.it/software/doublecpp |
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Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #606107 is a reply to message #472943] Tue, 12 September 2006 19:49 Go to previous message
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Messages: 481
Registered: July 2009
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Hi Marco,

I should point out that the VPD has not been fully integrated yet which is
why it is hard to get up and going with it. In the mean time it is there
to try it out.

Try these steps:

1) Install the required version of Eclipse and WTP dependencies as listed
in the bug.
2) Load Eclipse.
3) From the Project Explorer, right-click and select Import...
4) In the Import dialog select "General -> Archive File" and click Next.
5) Click on the "Browse..." button next to the text field "From archive
file". Point it to the pagedesigner.zip
6) By default all projects will be selected. Click Finish.
7) Now go to Run->Run... Double-click on "Eclipse Application" to create
a new run configuration (which will appear as "New_configuration". Single
click on this and hit "Run" in the bottom right.
8) This will launch a new Eclipse session. From there, create a Dynamic
web project, create a new JSP file and launch it. This should launch the
visual editor by default. If it doesn't load be default, right-click on
the JSP file you want to open select Open With->Web Page Editor.


--Cam

> I read on the "bug" page where the designer is presented this sentence:
> "The plugins here can then be imported to the workspace as source and run
> as a
> child workbench"
> Can someone help me to do this, or give me step by step guide to use the
> plugin, or point me on documentation?
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #606110 is a reply to message #472944] Tue, 12 September 2006 21:13 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,

first of all thank for your post and your attention. I'll try it and say
if it all goes well.
Now my second question is: every time that I want to use the visual page
designer, I must do all these operations?

Thanks in advance for your help.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante



> Hi Marco,

> I should point out that the VPD has not been fully integrated yet which is
> why it is hard to get up and going with it. In the mean time it is there
> to try it out.

> Try these steps:

> --Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #606114 is a reply to message #472945] Tue, 12 September 2006 21:47 Go to previous message
Cameron Bateman is currently offline Cameron BatemanFriend
Messages: 481
Registered: July 2009
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> Now my second question is: every time that I want to use the visual page
> designer, I must do all these operations?

Once you have done the import, you will only need to do the Run.. part in
future as long as you keep the workspace.

Again, please note that this page designer contribution has not yet been
integrated and released for use. Once the page designer is integrated,
you will only need to download everything from the website, unzip it and
run it. The zip file on the bug is only there for "preview"; it's not
intended for people to go off and use it in production yet.


--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #606127 is a reply to message #472946] Wed, 13 September 2006 17:13 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hello Cam,
I do all the steps that you have written on the previous post but found a
problem. If I click on the jsp page and do the command Open with, there is
no page designer. I think that the problem is connected to an error that I
have received when I created the dynamic web project: it seems that the
system can't create jsf and I received this message box:

Failed while installing JavaServer Faces 1.1


If I click on "Details" button in the message box the error is:

java.lang.NullPointerException


Sincerely I don't understand why I received this error, maybe it is
connected to my beginner phase with the IDE.

Another question: you say to click "Import" in the "Project workspace".
What kind of project I must create? Infact in the "Import" dialog there is
a message that you must link the pagedesigner.zip file with an open
project.


Hope you can help me.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #606129 is a reply to message #472949] Wed, 13 September 2006 20:48 Go to previous message
Cameron Bateman is currently offline Cameron BatemanFriend
Messages: 481
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
> Another question: you say to click "Import" in the "Project workspace".
> What kind of project I must create? Infact in the "Import" dialog there is
> a message that you must link the pagedesigner.zip file with an open
> project.

I think I gave you the wrong instructions for import. Instead of "Archive
File" try the "Existing Projects into Workspace". Select pagedesigner.zip
using the "Select archive file" field in the next page. This should cause
the four projects to appear in the "Projects" list below. Then hit finish
and continue on with the other instructions.


--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #606134 is a reply to message #472950] Thu, 14 September 2006 07:14 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,
thanks for your continuous help. I tried to create a web dynamic project,
but I received the error that I write in the previous post regarding the
jsf. Now, I think I not installed well the jsf plugin, so I say what I do:

1. Downloaded the file
wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.0-200606281455-linux-gtk.tar.tar and extracted it
in my home directory.

2. Downloaded the file wtp-jsf-R-1.5.0-200606281455 and extracted it in
eclipse directory (and I remember it ask to overwrite some files).

Now my question: is this the good way to do or I must install the basic
jsf plugin in another way? I know that I can install the wtp related
package from a, say, clean installation of eclipse sdk, but it takes much
time with 56k, so I downloaded the first file that include all.


Hope you can help.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #606137 is a reply to message #472951] Thu, 14 September 2006 17:00 Go to previous message
Cameron Bateman is currently offline Cameron BatemanFriend
Messages: 481
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
The packages you have downloaded should work. That should provide
everything you need. Do you still get those JSF errors with these zips
installed?

--Cam

Marco Mangiante wrote:

> Hi Cam,
> thanks for your continuous help. I tried to create a web dynamic project,
> but I received the error that I write in the previous post regarding the
> jsf. Now, I think I not installed well the jsf plugin, so I say what I do:

> 1. Downloaded the file
> wtp-all-in-one-sdk-R-1.5.0-200606281455-linux-gtk.tar.tar and extracted it
> in my home directory.

> 2. Downloaded the file wtp-jsf-R-1.5.0-200606281455 and extracted it in
> eclipse directory (and I remember it ask to overwrite some files).

> Now my question: is this the good way to do or I must install the basic
> jsf plugin in another way? I know that I can install the wtp related
> package from a, say, clean installation of eclipse sdk, but it takes much
> time with 56k, so I downloaded the first file that include all.


> Hope you can help.

> --
> Regards,

> Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #607611 is a reply to message #472952] Thu, 14 September 2006 21:51 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,

I still have the problem, but I do want some experimentation: I wanna do
the step by step instructions that are present in eclipse jsf
documentation for a simple hello world jsf application.
However, even with the error, eclipse load the project and if I add a jsp
file and click with right mouse click on it, the menu show the web page
editor shot. If I click on it I obtain a window similar to that of sybase
presentation of june, but if I show the "Palette", I have only html and
jsp voices and no jsf core and jsf html.
Have you some explanation for these two problems? Is there a simple sample
jsf application that I can download and try the web page designer on it?

Thank you very much for your patience and support.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante


P.S.: I'm using eclipse in kubuntu 6.06 with sun java 5 vm

> The packages you have downloaded should work. That should provide
> everything you need. Do you still get those JSF errors with these zips
> installed?

> --Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #607612 is a reply to message #472953] Thu, 14 September 2006 23:28 Go to previous message
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Messages: 481
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Senior Member
> I still have the problem, but I do want some experimentation: I wanna do
> the step by step instructions that are present in eclipse jsf
> documentation for a simple hello world jsf application.
> However, even with the error, eclipse load the project and if I add a jsp
> file and click with right mouse click on it, the menu show the web page
> editor shot. If I click on it I obtain a window similar to that of sybase

So do I understand correctly that have successfully loaded everything
except that the pallete for the visual editor does not contain core or
html?

If that is correct, then I think you will need to put a JSF implementation
on the on your class path. You can do this by downloading the
implementation JARS (a free one can be download from myfaces.apache.com)
and adding them as JSF component libraries. There should be information
about adding component libraries in the docs.

--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #607614 is a reply to message #472954] Mon, 18 September 2006 11:03 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: marcomangiante.despammed.com

Hi Cam,

> So do I understand correctly that have successfully loaded everything
> except that the pallete for the visual editor does not contain core or
> html?

> If that is correct, then I think you will need to put a JSF implementation
> on the on your class path. You can do this by downloading the
> implementation JARS (a free one can be download from myfaces.apache.com)
> and adding them as JSF component libraries. There should be information
> about adding component libraries in the docs.

Now it works. I have the palette with JSF Core and JSF HTML, but also have
other entries (now I'm not in front of the program, I write you the other
in another post). I followed your suggestion. Now I try to do some
experimentation.

--
Regards,

Marco Mangiante
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #608331 is a reply to message #472944] Wed, 18 October 2006 13:29 Go to previous message
Lorenzo Bettini is currently offline Lorenzo BettiniFriend
Messages: 1812
Registered: July 2009
Location: Firenze, Italy
Senior Member
Cameron Bateman wrote:
> Hi Marco,
>
> I should point out that the VPD has not been fully integrated yet which
> is why it is hard to get up and going with it. In the mean time it is
> there to try it out.
>
> Try these steps:
>
> 1) Install the required version of Eclipse and WTP dependencies as
> listed in the bug.
> 2) Load Eclipse.
> 3) From the Project Explorer, right-click and select Import...
> 4) In the Import dialog select "General -> Archive File" and click Next.
> 5) Click on the "Browse..." button next to the text field "From archive
> file". Point it to the pagedesigner.zip

in the bug page this file attachment is marked as obsolete... is it
available somewhere else?

thanks in advance

--
+-----------------------------------------------------+
| Lorenzo Bettini ICQ# lbetto, 16080134 |
| Home Page : http://www.lorenzobettini.it |
| http://tronprog.blogspot.com BLOG |
| http://www.purplesucker.com Deep Purple Cover Band |
| http://www.gnu.org/software/src-highlite |
| http://www.gnu.org/software/gengetopt |
| http://www.lorenzobettini.it/software/gengen |
| http://www.lorenzobettini.it/software/doublecpp |
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Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #608336 is a reply to message #473661] Wed, 18 October 2006 17:59 Go to previous message
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Messages: 481
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Jean created a new attachment with an updated code drop that is labelled
"Cleanup copyright issues". The link is
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=52153&ac tion=view

Give that a try.


--Cam
Re: Setup Visual Page Designer [message #608337 is a reply to message #473663] Fri, 20 October 2006 09:08 Go to previous message
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Messages: 1812
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Cameron Bateman wrote:
> Jean created a new attachment with an updated code drop that is labelled
> "Cleanup copyright issues". The link is
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=52153&ac tion=view
>
> Give that a try.
>

thanks I'll try it...

I thought it was only a patch and not a patched version.

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