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RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #447914] Tue, 21 December 2004 20:57 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: natgross.rentalsystems.verizon.net

Hi;
Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
Faces.

I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
accessing data from servlets or ejb's?

Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?

Thank you all;
-nat
ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #447916 is a reply to message #447914] Tue, 21 December 2004 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Amin Ahmad is currently offline Amin AhmadFriend
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Hi Nat,

not clear what you mean by "I need to enhance my client beyond basic jsp".
In any case, if you need a J2ee dev environment, take a look at Websphere
Studio Application Developer.

thanks,
Amin

Nat Gross wrote:

> Hi;
> Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
> Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
> Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
> basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
> Faces.

> I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
> includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
> accessing data from servlets or ejb's?

> Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?

> Thank you all;
> -nat
> ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #447917 is a reply to message #447914] Tue, 21 December 2004 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Amin Ahmad is currently offline Amin AhmadFriend
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Member
sorry, forgot to address the data aware controls part of the question. As
far as I know, the structured content providers give you the ability to
hit any kind of back end to build up your domain model. This could include
hitting a servlet (via http) or an ejb (via rmi)...


Nat Gross wrote:

> Hi;
> Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
> Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
> Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
> basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
> Faces.

> I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
> includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
> accessing data from servlets or ejb's?

> Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?

> Thank you all;
> -nat
> ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #447943 is a reply to message #447916] Wed, 22 December 2004 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: natgross.rentalsystems.verizon.net

Amin Ahmad wrote:

> Hi Nat,
>
> not clear what you mean by "I need to enhance my client beyond basic
> jsp".
Simple. I would like to use something like Swing as the front-end. The
problem is that Swing does not have data-aware controls. Soooo, I am
hoping that the Eclipse platform+controls can give me this functionality.
-nat

>
> thanks,
> Amin
>
> Nat Gross wrote:
>
>> Hi;
>> Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
>> Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
>> Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
>> basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
>> Faces.
>
>
>> I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
>> includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
>> accessing data from servlets or ejb's?
>
>
>> Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?
>
>
>> Thank you all;
>> -nat
>> ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
>
>
>
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #447944 is a reply to message #447916] Wed, 22 December 2004 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: natgross.rentalsystems.verizon.net

Amin Ahmad wrote:

> Hi Nat,
>
> take a look at Websphere Studio Application Developer.
Ahem. How much does that cost? (After the free trial.)
thanks
-nat
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #447955 is a reply to message #447917] Wed, 22 December 2004 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Muhammad Aamir is currently offline Muhammad AamirFriend
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You can also use Eclipse Forms to create data entry forms. Currently I am
developing a hospital management system on top of Eclipse RCP. I am acceing
EJB and my application server is Websphere.

Regards
Muhammad Aamir

"Amin Ahmad" <amin_ahmad60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cqa52f$b23$1@www.eclipse.org...
> sorry, forgot to address the data aware controls part of the question. As
> far as I know, the structured content providers give you the ability to
> hit any kind of back end to build up your domain model. This could include
> hitting a servlet (via http) or an ejb (via rmi)...
>
>
> Nat Gross wrote:
>
> > Hi;
> > Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
> > Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
> > Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
> > basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
> > Faces.
>
> > I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
> > includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
> > accessing data from servlets or ejb's?
>
> > Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?
>
> > Thank you all;
> > -nat
> > ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
>
>
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #447988 is a reply to message #447955] Wed, 22 December 2004 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: natgross.rentalsystems.verizon.net

Muhammad Aamir wrote:

> You can also use Eclipse Forms to create data entry forms. Currently I am
> developing a hospital management system on top of Eclipse RCP. I am acceing
> EJB and my application server is Websphere.
>
> Regards
> Muhammad Aamir

Seems interesting. Thanks for the link.
-nat

>
> "Amin Ahmad" <amin_ahmad60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cqa52f$b23$1@www.eclipse.org...
>
>>sorry, forgot to address the data aware controls part of the question. As
>>far as I know, the structured content providers give you the ability to
>>hit any kind of back end to build up your domain model. This could include
>>hitting a servlet (via http) or an ejb (via rmi)...
>>
>>
>>Nat Gross wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi;
>>>Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
>>>Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
>>>Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
>>>basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
>>>Faces.
>>
>>>I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
>>>includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
>>>accessing data from servlets or ejb's?
>>
>>>Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?
>>
>>>Thank you all;
>>>-nat
>>>ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
>>
>>
>
>
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #448012 is a reply to message #447988] Thu, 23 December 2004 20:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Audley is currently offline Chris AudleyFriend
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I assume by data aware components, you are looking for something that
you can provide a data source, like a JDBC connection and query or an
XML document, and it determines the datas structure and automatically
produces a table.

SWT/JFace and Eclipse have a lot of good stuff (as mentioned below).
But, as far as data aware components, nothing in Eclipse goes beyond
what Swing has. The structured content providers are analogous to
TableModel or TreeModels in swing. You still have to write the code
that figures out the format of your data and maps it to rows and columns
(in the case of a table).

Nat Gross wrote:
> Muhammad Aamir wrote:
>
>> You can also use Eclipse Forms to create data entry forms. Currently I am
>> developing a hospital management system on top of Eclipse RCP. I am
>> acceing
>> EJB and my application server is Websphere.
>>
>> Regards
>> Muhammad Aamir
>
>
> Seems interesting. Thanks for the link.
> -nat
>
>>
>> "Amin Ahmad" <amin_ahmad60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:cqa52f$b23$1@www.eclipse.org...
>>
>>> sorry, forgot to address the data aware controls part of the
>>> question. As
>>> far as I know, the structured content providers give you the ability to
>>> hit any kind of back end to build up your domain model. This could
>>> include
>>> hitting a servlet (via http) or an ejb (via rmi)...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nat Gross wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi;
>>>> Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
>>>> Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
>>>> Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
>>>> basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
>>>> Faces.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
>>>> includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
>>>> accessing data from servlets or ejb's?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you all;
>>>> -nat
>>>> ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
Re: RCP newbie. Can I build a j2ee rich client out of the box? [message #448025 is a reply to message #448012] Sun, 26 December 2004 18:10 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: natgross.rentalsystems.verizon.net

Chris Audley wrote:
> I assume by data aware components, you are looking for something that
> you can provide a data source, like a JDBC connection and query or an
> XML document, and it determines the datas structure and automatically
> produces a table.

Exactly.
Thank you much.
-nat

> SWT/JFace and Eclipse have a lot of good stuff (as mentioned below).
> But, as far as data aware components, nothing in Eclipse goes beyond
> what Swing has. The structured content providers are analogous to
> TableModel or TreeModels in swing. You still have to write the code
> that figures out the format of your data and maps it to rows and columns
> (in the case of a table).
>
> Nat Gross wrote:
>
>> Muhammad Aamir wrote:
>>
>>> You can also use Eclipse Forms to create data entry forms. Currently
>>> I am
>>> developing a hospital management system on top of Eclipse RCP. I am
>>> acceing
>>> EJB and my application server is Websphere.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Muhammad Aamir
>>
>>
>>
>> Seems interesting. Thanks for the link.
>> -nat
>>
>>>
>>> "Amin Ahmad" <amin_ahmad60@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:cqa52f$b23$1@www.eclipse.org...
>>>
>>>> sorry, forgot to address the data aware controls part of the
>>>> question. As
>>>> far as I know, the structured content providers give you the ability to
>>>> hit any kind of back end to build up your domain model. This could
>>>> include
>>>> hitting a servlet (via http) or an ejb (via rmi)...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nat Gross wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi;
>>>>> Although using Eclipse as my ide, I never explored PDE.
>>>>> Also, Swing has been my j2se gui, until now.
>>>>> Having expanded my skills to j2ee, I need to enhance my client beyond
>>>>> basic jsp. I am at a juncture of deciding if to delve into Java Server
>>>>> Faces.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I researched PDE and RCP, and would likely use it lickety split IF it
>>>>> includes data-aware controls. Does SWT or JFACE provide an api for
>>>>> accessing data from servlets or ejb's?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Would you advise a go for JSF or RCP plus, plus what?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you all;
>>>>> -nat
>>>>> ps. I am not onto j2se 5.0 yet. fwiw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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