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| Moronic error message on install [message #1827304] |
Tue, 12 May 2020 17:00  |
 Jeff Mullen
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Registered: May 2020 |
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I'm out of patience with the way that eclipse and its associated files not only do not work but give the most idiotic error messages and leave me to try to pick up the pieces.
I am trying to install the latest version of eclipse, downloaded from eclipse.org, on a system running Linux Mint 19. I will not go into detail as to why I am attempting to install it over the deb package that comes with Mint, but it involves the frustration of having to deal with idiotic error messages.
So...I click on the installer...and...
The catalog could not be loaded. Please ensure that you have network access and, if needed, have configured your network proxy.
TALK ABOUT IDIOCY! I JUST DOWNLOADED THE @#$$@#$ FILE!!!! MY NETWORK CONNECTION IS JUST FINE!!!!!
I may not seem like much, but I have a Bachelor's degree in comp sci from RIT, a top-10 school, and one of the first things they teach in their students' freshman year is MAKE THE ERROR MESSAGES COMPREHENSIBLE.
This crap wouldn't make it out of a first-year intro course.
Can someone explain to me how to make this thing work--because it won't, not in a million years. And I looked at the forums already. All I found was an FAQ that's--as usual--about as useful as a screen door on a submarine.
How utterly moronic.
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| Re: Moronic error message on install [message #1827360 is a reply to message #1827321] |
Wed, 13 May 2020 17:33  |
Jeff Mullen
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Thank you for your timely reply.
Installing the "package" resolved the issue.
This is a moot point--I include it only for informative purposes--but the listing of error messages was useless--they were from THE PLATFORM but the one I was getting was from THE INSTALLER. Forgive me if I do not word this more diplomatically--as I wrote, it is trivial under the circumstances anyway.
Mind you, the installation was not perfect. It did not delete the old version, something that windows installers have led me to, reasonably or not, expect, but I should be able to handle the clean-up.
As to the response I was looking for, it was pretty much the one I got, with the caveat that I would appreciate it if you could also point out basic documentation on what the IDE is composed of (ant and maven being two subcomponents where I'm looking for a complete list), what the subcomponents do and how they're integrated.
Finally, I'm looking for information on how to import/export working projects from one computer/OS to another. The reason I was in such a foul mood in the first place is that I was using an unnecessarily difficult process to perform such a transfer--I had to manually create first the project then each individual package then each individual class/source file before I could copy the source files to the target destination. This did not vex me. What vexed me was that on top of that, when I tried to run the projects to test them, eclipse would choose random projects and tell me that these had no main module even though they all did, and deleting and re-importing the project(s) had no effect on this. This is the problem that the newer version seems to have solved.
Which brings the next problem to the top of the stack: there HAS to be an easier way to port code. Hence my request.
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| Re: Moronic error message on install [message #1827457 is a reply to message #1827445] |
Thu, 14 May 2020 21:36 |
Jeff Mullen
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Thanks again. That made the import/export process much easier.
If, again, you could refer me to the proper documentation so that I wouldn't need to take your time on these forums, I think it would be a win-win.
Specifically, how does eclipse determine where a main module is? How does one access this information? Likewise, when I add a folder and add a graphics file (a .png or a .jpg), how does eclipse know where the "build path" is to look for these files? How can I find out what it "thinks" the "build path" is and what files, if any, it "sees" in that folder?
Again, I am looking not for an a direct answer but for the location of the documentation that answers these questions.
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| Re: Moronic error message on install [message #1827513 is a reply to message #1827457] |
Sat, 16 May 2020 10:54 |
Emmanuel Chebbi
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Jeff Mullen wrote on Thu, 14 May 2020 23:36If, again, you could refer me to the proper documentation so that I wouldn't need to take your time on these forums, I think it would be a win-win.
Eclipse IDE is a big system made of a lot of sub-projects, each project being developed independantly. Depending on what you're looking for, the documentation can be sparse (between official documentation, forums, stackoverflow, blog posts, source code, etc.) and may even not exist at all. So it's a bit difficult to point you to "the" location of the documentation.
As Tauno Voipio said, Eclipse IDE embeds the documentation of the plug-ins you installed: Help > Help Contents and it's likely the most comprehensive you'll find. You can also check it online: https://help.eclipse.org/2020-03/index.jsp.
Jeff Mullen wrote on Thu, 14 May 2020 23:36Specifically, how does eclipse determine where a main module is? How does one access this information?
I guess you're talking about Java modules so you'll be interested in the JDT Plug-in Developer Guide section which is Java Development Tools' documentation (and maybe even Java development user guide which is more user-oriented).
Jeff Mullen wrote on Thu, 14 May 2020 23:36 Likewise, when I add a folder and add a graphics file (a .png or a .jpg), how does eclipse know where the "build path" is to look for these files? How can I find out what it "thinks" the "build path" is and what files, if any, it "sees" in that folder?
Are you talking about Java's build path? It's again managed by JDT: https://help.eclipse.org/2020-03/topic/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.user/reference/ref-properties-build-path.htm. It is stored in the .classpath file located at the root of the project.
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