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| Re: Contextual/dynamic help behavior change? [message #336734 is a reply to message #336732] |
Mon, 29 June 2009 21:34   |
 Mark Melvin
Messages: 118
Registered: July 2009 |
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Hmm...I just found this in the source code for RelatedTopicsPart:
// Preference created in case anyone complains about the removal of
// the dynamic help section. This is not API, not documented and may
// be removed in a future release.
useDynamicHelp =
Platform.getPreferencesService().getBoolean(HelpBasePlugin.P LUGIN_ID,
"show_dynamic_help", false, null); //$NON-NLS-1$
I guess it was intentional. ;)
So I guess I can set the preference as part of my product to bring this
back (until it is removed entirely), but it begs the question: Why was
this seen as a feature not worth keeping?
Mark.
Mark Melvin wrote:
> Hi There,
> We have been using dynamic help for awhile (by adapting our editors to
> IContextProvider) and I just noticed in Eclipse 3.5 that it no longer
> performs the search automatically. In Eclipse 3.5 it queries my editor
> for a term, and in the dynamic help view it now simply displays one link
> under "More results:" instead of the actual search results, like so:
> Search for <contexual_term>
> Is this a known change in behavior? To me this is a step backwards in
> usability. You now have to reach for the mouse to click the link to see
> the hit summary, and then click back to "Related Topics" if the results
> were not interesting. Before you could tell at a glance when cursoring
> around in the editor.
> Can I re-enable the old behavior somehow? Do I need to update my code to
> use a newer API?
> Thanks,
> Mark.
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| Re: Contextual/dynamic help behavior change? [message #336823 is a reply to message #336734] |
Sun, 05 July 2009 22:36 |
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Originally posted by: nospam_kowalskilee.gmail.com
Hi Mark,
I believe there were a number (>1) of Bugzilla entries related to
confusion about the dynamic help section and the automatic search that
it performed. Some people reported getting un-useful topics listed in
that section, and they didn't realize it was doing a search of the
editor/view name in the help topics. Thus, an intentional change in 3.5.
Here's one Bugzilla about the dynamic help section:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=179360
In comment 14, Chris references reading a number of bug reports, so
there are likely others.
I had asked in the last comment of that Bugzilla entry if there were any
guidance for how to write the search query for the dynamic results so
that they *would* be useful. However, I received no responses to that
question, leading me to assume that level of guidance doesn't exist
currently.
Hope that helps, at least to where you can open the discussion again.
:-) There's also the eclipse.platform.ua newsgroup.
--Lee Anne
Mark Melvin wrote:
> Hmm...I just found this in the source code for RelatedTopicsPart:
>
> // Preference created in case anyone complains about the removal of
> // the dynamic help section. This is not API, not documented and may
> // be removed in a future release.
> useDynamicHelp =
> Platform.getPreferencesService().getBoolean(HelpBasePlugin.P LUGIN_ID,
> "show_dynamic_help", false, null); //$NON-NLS-1$
>
> I guess it was intentional. ;)
>
> So I guess I can set the preference as part of my product to bring this
> back (until it is removed entirely), but it begs the question: Why was
> this seen as a feature not worth keeping?
>
> Mark.
>
>
> Mark Melvin wrote:
>
>> Hi There,
>
>> We have been using dynamic help for awhile (by adapting our editors to
>> IContextProvider) and I just noticed in Eclipse 3.5 that it no longer
>> performs the search automatically. In Eclipse 3.5 it queries my
>> editor for a term, and in the dynamic help view it now simply displays
>> one link under "More results:" instead of the actual search results,
>> like so:
>
>> Search for <contexual_term>
>
>> Is this a known change in behavior? To me this is a step backwards in
>> usability. You now have to reach for the mouse to click the link to
>> see the hit summary, and then click back to "Related Topics" if the
>> results were not interesting. Before you could tell at a glance when
>> cursoring around in the editor.
>
>> Can I re-enable the old behavior somehow? Do I need to update my code
>> to use a newer API?
>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark.
>
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