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| Re: key bindings do nothing [message #336005 is a reply to message #335994] |
Wed, 13 May 2009 15:21   |
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Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com
John J. Barton wrote:
> Also: is there any way to tell eclipse to stop using context-dependent
> key bindings? Is it possible to configure eclipse to us only global
> commands? The default system is very inefficient, many operations take
> three keys: get out of this window, go to that view, run this command.
I'm pretty sure there is not a way to do that, but have you used the
Quick Access feature (Ctrl+3)? I think you'll find it very handy. Read
all about it: http://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+"quick+access"
Hope this helps,
Eric
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| Re: key bindings do nothing [message #336058 is a reply to message #336011] |
Fri, 15 May 2009 22:36 |
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Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com
John J. Barton wrote:
> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>> John J. Barton wrote:
>>> Also: is there any way to tell eclipse to stop using
>>> context-dependent key bindings? Is it possible to configure eclipse
>>> to us only global commands? The default system is very inefficient,
>>> many operations take three keys: get out of this window, go to that
>>> view, run this command.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure there is not a way to do that, but have you used the
>> Quick Access feature (Ctrl+3)? I think you'll find it very handy. Read
>> all about it: http://www.google.com/search?q=eclipse+"quick+access"
>
> Thanks Eric. But I don't think this helps at all. To issue "terminate
> and relaunch" which I do many, many times a day I currently:
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> Ctrl-F7 popup view selector
> 1-3 arrow keys nav to Debug view
> Enter select debug view
> Down arrow focus app
> Shift-F10 popup context
> 8 arrow up select Terminate and Relaunch
> ----------
> 13-15 keystrokes
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> With Ctrl-3:
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> Ctrl-3 popup selector
> d-e-b filter list to show debug stuff
> 1-3 arrow keys nav to Debug view
> Enter select debug view
> Down arrow focus app
> Shift-F10 popup context
> 8 arrow up select Terminate and Relaunch
> ----------
> 16-19 keystrokes
>
> Surely there is a better way?
I don't know why Terminate and Relaunch is not a choice in Quick Access.
But, you can easily do two Quick Access invocations, fist Terminate then
Debug Last Launched.
Ctrl+3
t-e-r-m
<Enter>
then
Ctrl+3 (again)
dll
<enter>
If you're going to just count keystrokes, then I can't have that
conversation without getting frustrated ;-) Suffice it to say that I can
do the above combo in about 2.5 seconds, literally. And my fingers
haven't even memorized it yet... :-)
I also tried to assign a binding to Terminate and Relaunch but could not
get it to work (just Terminate works fine, though). I tried in 3.5M7, so
I'd say a bug report is definitely in order. Might want a separate bug
report to request that Terminate and Relaunch be included in Quick
Assist, too (I have no idea why its not, but I thought the list of
things in Quick Assist was automated; so it might be related to why the
key binding doesn't work).
Hope this helps,
Eric
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| Re: key bindings do nothing [message #336065 is a reply to message #336058] |
Mon, 18 May 2009 16:39 |
 John J. Barton
Messages: 311
Registered: July 2009 |
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Eric Rizzo wrote:
> John J. Barton wrote:
....
>> Surely there is a better way?
>
> I don't know why Terminate and Relaunch is not a choice in Quick Access.
> But, you can easily do two Quick Access invocations, fist Terminate then
> Debug Last Launched.
>
> Ctrl+3
> t-e-r-m
> <Enter>
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> then
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> Ctrl+3 (again)
> dll
> <enter>
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> If you're going to just count keystrokes, then I can't have that
> conversation without getting frustrated ;-) Suffice it to say that I can
> do the above combo in about 2.5 seconds, literally. And my fingers
> haven't even memorized it yet... :-)
Of course keystrokes is just a proxy how hard/time consuming the action
is. Nevertheless, its hard for me to imagine that two X Quick Access can
ever compete with one X Ctrl+F2.
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> I also tried to assign a binding to Terminate and Relaunch but could not
> get it to work (just Terminate works fine, though). I tried in 3.5M7, so
> I'd say a bug report is definitely in order. Might want a separate bug
But I'm now thinking this is hopeless. If the key bindings are
view-dependent, then I will always have to first switch views before
applying my command correct? Since all of my time goes in to view
switching, I can't gain from keybindings?
Thanks,
jjb
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| Re: key bindings do nothing [message #336067 is a reply to message #336065] |
Mon, 18 May 2009 17:36 |
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Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com
John J. Barton wrote:
> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>>
>> I also tried to assign a binding to Terminate and Relaunch but could
>> not get it to work (just Terminate works fine, though). I tried in
>> 3.5M7, so I'd say a bug report is definitely in order. Might want a
>> separate bug
>
> But I'm now thinking this is hopeless. If the key bindings are
> view-dependent, then I will always have to first switch views before
> applying my command correct? Since all of my time goes in to view
> switching, I can't gain from keybindings?
I don't think it's hopeless because assigning a key binding to Terminate
(as opposed to Terminate and Relaunch) seemed to work as I would expect,
regardless of what view/editor I was in. A bug report will point out to
the relevant developers that something is amiss with Terminate and Relaunch.
Eric
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