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Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1769924]

Sat, 05 August 2017 23:26

Brad Crochet

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Using Papyrus 3.0

I have created a fresh SysML project, and have on hand a file "ISO 80000.xmi", which I got from OMG on their site here:

http://www.omg.org/spec/SysML/1.4/

I was able to successfully import the library from this file in another SysML software, so I know the file is good. What are the appropriate steps to import this library into my SysML project in Papyrus?

Thanks a bunch!

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Re: Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1769939 is a reply to message #1769924]

Sun, 06 August 2017 17:34

Carsten Pitz

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the only reason why you can import it into Sparx EA is, the file has been written by Sparx EA ;-)
BTW, beside Papyrus also IBM Rational Rhapsody reports errors parsing that file.

The root problem simply is, the XMI specification is not sufficient specific to ensure interoperability.

Greetings,
Carsten

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Re: Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1769940 is a reply to message #1769939]

Sun, 06 August 2017 17:52

Brad Crochet

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Ahhhh...that makes sense. Thank you Carsten! I didn't fully appreciate that issue with the XMI format. Heck, you'd think they'd just tell you that on the OMG website, and save everyone the confusion.

In any case, thanks again for saving me any further confusion!

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Re: Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1769942 is a reply to message #1769940]

Sun, 06 August 2017 18:17

Carsten Pitz

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to be more precise

XMI the XML based MOF Interchange format only defines how MOF is serialized as XML. How UML (SysML is an UML profile) or BPMN are mapped onto MOF is only rather vaguely described.

/Carsten

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Re: Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1769943 is a reply to message #1769940]

Sun, 06 August 2017 18:21

Carsten Pitz

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Hi Brad,
if you contact me via carsten.pitz@gmx.de I will tell you more on that topic ;-)
/Carsten

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Re: Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1772147 is a reply to message #1769943]

Wed, 06 September 2017 07:08

Klaas Gadeyne

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You might want to share progress (or encountered issues) at https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=478131

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Re: Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1772294 is a reply to message #1769924]

Thu, 07 September 2017 16:32

Brad Crochet

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I'm afraid I haven't done any further work toward getting ISO 80000 into Papyrus. My overall impression is that a version of ISO 80000 for Papyrus could be produced by someone with the knowledge, patience, and time to go through the existing version of the XMI file and make it all compatible with Papyrus. Further, I have not heard anything encouraging about the prospect of the OMG making XMI SysML truly standard and portable any time soon.

Those are just my impressions...I haven't, at this time, tried to make myself expert on the subject.

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Re: Proper steps to import OMG's ISO 80000 package into SysML? [message #1772296 is a reply to message #1772294]

Thu, 07 September 2017 16:47

Ed Willink

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Hi

See https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=1088706&goto=1772252&#msg_1772252

Definitely looks like Yves is trying to make sure the embedded OCL in SysML is respectable.

The attachment may give you a Papyrus-friendly SysML.

Regards

Ed Willink

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