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'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760076] Fri, 21 April 2017 20:46 Go to next message
Chuck Pergiel is currently offline Chuck PergielFriend
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This is what the update box showed.

'Updating Software' has encountered a problem.

An error occurred while collecting iterms to be installed

When I asked for details it gave me a list of a zillion lines like this:
An error occurred while collecting items to be installed
session context was:(profile=_home_c_eclipse_cpp-neon_eclipse, phase=org.eclipse.equinox.internal.p2.engine.phases.Collect, operand=, action=).
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.cdt,9.2.1.201704050430
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.cdt.autotools.core,2.0.0.201704050430
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.cdt.autotools.docs,2.0.2.201704050430
. . .


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760086 is a reply to message #1760076] Sat, 22 April 2017 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There could have been a network failure.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760097 is a reply to message #1760086] Sat, 22 April 2017 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If there was a network failure, it's not on my end. I just ran an update on Linux and it worked fine. Then I tried to update Eclipse again and I got the same error as before.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760133 is a reply to message #1760097] Sun, 23 April 2017 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe there are more clues in the Error Log?

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760135 is a reply to message #1760133] Sun, 23 April 2017 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Error Log? Where is the Error Log?

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760137 is a reply to message #1760135] Sun, 23 April 2017 16:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Type Error Log in the Quick Access to open the Error Log view.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760138 is a reply to message #1760137] Sun, 23 April 2017 16:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Most of today's entries in the Error Log are the same as above. I did find these four items from Friday at 2:30PM, which was like 9 hours before I tried to do the update.

Unknown Host: http://download.eclipse.org/oomph/updates/milestone/latest/compositeContent.xml
Unknown Host: http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/releases/9.2/compositeContent.xml
Unknown Host: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/4.6/compositeContent.xml
Unknown Host: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/neon/compositeContent.xml

The event details for all four of these are identical, except for the URL.

eclipse.buildId=4.6.3.M20170301-0400
java.version=1.8.0_121
java.vendor=Oracle Corporation
BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86_64, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
Framework arguments: -product org.eclipse.epp.package.cpp.product
Command-line arguments: -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86_64 -product org.eclipse.epp.package.cpp.product

org.eclipse.equinox.p2.transport.ecf
Error
Fri Apr 21 14:29:07 PDT 2017
Unknown Host: http://download.eclipse.org/oomph/updates/milestone/latest/compositeContent.xml

java.net.UnknownHostException: download.eclipse.org
at java.net.InetAddress.getAllByName0(InetAddress.java:1280)
at java.net.InetAddress.getAllByName(InetAddress.java:1192)
at java.net.InetAddress.getAllByName(InetAddress.java:1126)
at org.apache.http.impl.conn.SystemDefaultDnsResolver.resolve(SystemDefaultDnsResolver.java:44)
at org.apache.http.impl.conn.DefaultClientConnectionOperator.resolveHostname(DefaultClientConnectionOperator.java:259)
at org.apache.http.impl.conn.DefaultClientConnectionOperator.openConnection(DefaultClientConnectionOperator.java:159)
at org.apache.http.impl.conn.ManagedClientConnectionImpl.open(ManagedClientConnectionImpl.java:304)
at org.apache.http.impl.client.DefaultRequestDirector.tryConnect(DefaultRequestDirector.java:611)
at org.apache.http.impl.client.DefaultRequestDirector.execute(DefaultRequestDirector.java:446)
at org.apache.http.impl.client.AbstractHttpClient.doExecute(AbstractHttpClient.java:863)
at org.apache.http.impl.client.CloseableHttpClient.execute(CloseableHttpClient.java:82)
at org.eclipse.ecf.provider.filetransfer.httpclient4.HttpClientFileSystemBrowser.runRequest(HttpClientFileSystemBrowser.java:263)
at org.eclipse.ecf.provider.filetransfer.browse.AbstractFileSystemBrowser$DirectoryJob.run(AbstractFileSystemBrowser.java:69)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.jobs.Worker.run(Worker.java:55)


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760157 is a reply to message #1760138] Mon, 24 April 2017 06:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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These logs entries suggest network problems, at least at that point in time. You could clear the log, try again, and see what's all in the log. I'm not sure what else to suggest. Perhaps there is some inconsistency in CDT's update sites. You might try using Windows -> Preferences -> Install/Update -> Available Software Sites and disabling the CDT one; CDT should be in the Neon repository anyway.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1760182 is a reply to message #1760157] Mon, 24 April 2017 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There might be something fishy in the links or Eclipse repository.
When used as browser URL's, only the CDT link got a XML page, the other three gave the Eclipse project 'Not found' page.



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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1806532 is a reply to message #1760182] Fri, 10 May 2019 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I strongly suggest closing down Eclipse as this bug (its a BUG) is still relevant 2 years on.....
It clearly shows that developers give a middle finger to it. Either because they don't have a clue what's going on, or they don't care....
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1806570 is a reply to message #1806532] Fri, 10 May 2019 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is it? You've reopened a two year old thread about an outdated release without adding any other information.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1815594 is a reply to message #1806570] Sun, 06 October 2019 17:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nitin Dahyabhai wrote on Fri, 10 May 2019 13:36
Is it? You've reopened a two year old thread about an outdated release without adding any other information.


And ?/???

I see no need to be super-skilled APP tider to know that this should not have been happening.

There is no need for you to reject/oppose this....
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1815597 is a reply to message #1815594] Sun, 06 October 2019 20:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's true. Network failures should not happen. Networks should be perfect, and servers should never ever go down, nor ever serve up stale content.

Unfortunately reality often rears its ugly head. Anything that could possibly go wrong between you and the server (and on the server) does in fact sometimes go wrong. No doubt some gremlin with an overactive middle finger is involved; there's definitely no need to reject or oppose those gremlins.

That being said, if you have a question, try to state it in the form of a sentence that ends with a question mark. The more information you provide to help frame the context of your question the better.

However, if your basic underlying assumption is that the people who provide you the free software and the free help desire only to show you their middle finger, isn't it kind of pointless for you to post anything at all?

It seems a little to me like the annoying people who honk their horn at the bus stopped at the bus stop in front of my house because it's in their way: I know it's just a way to vent their understandable frustration. Unfortunately it does so in a way that disturbs the peace of the entire neighborhood, and unfortunately for them, that bus always stops there when there are people waiting to get on or wanting to get off, no matter how frustrating that is for people in a hurry. So I always think, please don't honk your horn in front of my house.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1815600 is a reply to message #1815597] Sun, 06 October 2019 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I was not expecting to see a response this morning to a forum post I made two years ago, but here we are. I gave up on Eclipse shortly after I made this post. It might be very wonderful, but I wanted something that was ready to go for what I was doing. Configuring it to work the way I wanted was more effort than it was worth. Between printf and the Linux debugger, and I can get where I want to go without having to immerse myself in Eclipse's arcane ways.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1816874 is a reply to message #1815600] Sat, 09 November 2019 15:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everyone who oppose the need of action, please go to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=481414
Still NEW status and NO answer from developers? Seriously?
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1816877 is a reply to message #1816874] Sat, 09 November 2019 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You again provide no new information. How about describing what you tried to do that failed? Was it no artifact not found? Was it a deadlock during update? Was it a connection timeout? What was the problem?

What I noticed a few weeks ago is that its possible when an update site changes (e.g., a composite update site adds a new child site), that the server will serve inconsistent state for a while. In general the server caches the files that it serves, so even when the underlying file in the file system changes, the server can and does for a while serve up the previous version. Because an update site consists of both content metadata and artifact metadata (two separate resources), if the server serves up the newer version of the content metadata but the older version of the artifact metadata then the resolve process finds the new set of installable units, but, when it then proceeds to try to download the corresponding artifacts, it ends seeing only older artifact metadata and can't find that newer artifacts. This generally corrects itself after a while, and there's not much one can do at the receiving end (the resolve process) to deal with this problem. The process of publishing the new metadata should manually flush the server cache; but no one (the publishers) actual does that (because most people don't even realize this problem exists). I notice because I've tested a million times...

You also seem to assume that developers are ignoring you. The problem is that no active p2 developer exists. And that's of course because everything is free, so there is no profit and hence no flow of money with which an active developer could in principle buy a slice of dry day old bread to fuel their work.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817845 is a reply to message #1816877] Sat, 30 November 2019 20:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ed Merks wrote on Sat, 09 November 2019 18:17
(...)The problem is that no active p2 developer exists. And that's of course because everything is free, so there is no profit and hence no flow of money with which an active developer could in principle buy a slice of dry day old bread to fuel their work.

What is P2? And given Eclipse is free, doesnt mean there should not be an update, or gives you allowance to being rude/ironic/whatsoever......

And bug thats of this age and status is completely unacceptable (even with free software).
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817846 is a reply to message #1817845] Sat, 30 November 2019 21:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wojciech Lisik wrote on Sat, 30 November 2019 21:05
What is P2?

p2 is basically the technology used to manage deployment and updates of Eclipse-based applications and plug-ins, see internet. The bug discussed in this thread is related to this technology, so the fact that there are no active p2 developers makes difficult to fix it.

Wojciech Lisik wrote on Sat, 30 November 2019 21:05
And given Eclipse is free, doesnt mean there should not be an update

Eclipse, as a platform and as an IDE, already receives a lot of updates but sadly not everything can be covered.

Wojciech Lisik wrote on Sat, 30 November 2019 21:05
And bug thats of this age and status is completely unacceptable (even with free software).

Please feel free to contribute by fixing the issue: lots of Eclipse projects are alive thanks to volunteers that give their free time for the community.
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817879 is a reply to message #1817846] Mon, 02 December 2019 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't believe my answer was rude. I suggested that you provide details about your specific problem so that we can understand exactly which problem you have. That's just a normal expectation when handling problem-related questions.

Also I took the time to described a specific scenario that causes problems (regularly) but is super hard to address on the client side where we can only rely on what the server delivers. The purpose of this was for you to develop an appreciation of how difficult it can be for us to reproduce problems that users see.

Granted that it can be seen as ironic to point out the reality of free open source, but it's important to understand the difference between people ignoring you because they read what you wrote and choose to do nothing, or because no one reads it at all. Just looking at bugs open against p2 that appear to be "ignored" there are so many it's hared to conceive how this list could ever be reduced to your standard of "acceptable":

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&classification=Eclipse&component=p2&list_id=19088522&order=Importance&product=Equinox&query_format=advanced

Of course if someone paid me to do reduce this list, I'd happily do that. Or if someone paid someone to do that, someone would be doing that. But that's unfortunately not the case.

Looking at a link for the "Tragedy of the Commons":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

I get this text on the header:Quote:
To all our readers in Germany.

It's a little awkward, so we'll get straight to the point: on this Monday we humbly ask you to protect Wikipedia's independence. This is the 22nd day of our campaign. We depend on donations averaging about € 23.83, but 99% of our readers don't give. Our fundraising appeal is displayed over 7 million times a day, but currently only 230.011 people have donated. If everyone reading this gave a small amount, we could keep Wikipedia thriving for years to come. The price of your Monday coffee is all we need. When we made Wikipedia a non-profit, people warned us we'd regret it. But if Wikipedia became commercial, it would be a great loss to the world. Wikipedia is a place to learn, not a place for advertising. It unites all of us who love knowledge: contributors, readers and the donors who keep us thriving. The heart and soul of Wikipedia is a community of people working to bring you unlimited access to reliable, neutral information. Please take a minute to help us keep Wikipedia growing. Thank you!


It's clear that many things thrive on the small contributions and there are many ways to contribute...


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817930 is a reply to message #1817879] Tue, 03 December 2019 09:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One of many problems with OSS is - as it was stated by Ed - that all contributors to Eclipse are volunteers . Right, granted. But Eclipse (as a project, not as a software) is backed up by foundation that employs people (like managers, accountant/s, pr's, etc). Mayba it would be of great sense to hire skilled developer/s who will take care of things like p2 and/or solving bugs (like from the list quoted by Ed)? What do you guys think?
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817940 is a reply to message #1817930] Tue, 03 December 2019 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm on the board of directors as an elected committer representative so I know what the Foundation's budget is and how it's spent. Nothing is spent on developing the Eclipse software, and this is by design. The members do the actual development work of the software on a per-project basis; they generally pay people (their employees) to work the project(s) of interest. So I think most, or at least many, are being paid to do development work, but the focus is at the funder's discretion. For a while the donations were directed to some development efforts, but the donations are way too small to justify the overhead of managing that tiny budget for work items.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817944 is a reply to message #1817940] Tue, 03 December 2019 13:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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All this fuss TWO YEARS after I posted my original problem makes me wonder what the heck is going on. Is there a plan for further development for Eclipse? Does anyone know what that plan is? When I took up with Linux I looked around for an IDE and Eclipse seemed to be the one, so I tried it out. I used it for a bit, but it ended up being more trouble than it was worth. Maybe if I had spent some time sorting out the configuration so it would do what I wanted, it might have worked better, but that was a rathole I didn't want to crawl into. I tried unsubscribing from this thread, but it didn't do any good, I'm still getting messages. Seems like much of the Linux world could do with some basic housekeeping. Like if you blow up this page so the type is big enough to read, the 'Post Message' and 'Submit Reply' buttons vanish.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817966 is a reply to message #1817944] Tue, 03 December 2019 16:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are hundreds of Eclipse projects. You can see for your self how active any project is, e.g., the UI components of the Eclipse Platform project.

https://git.eclipse.org/c/platform/eclipse.platform.ui.git/log/

But given your comments, you aren't actually interested in any of this. So is there a point in asking or is it just a axe grinding exercise?


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1817970 is a reply to message #1817966] Tue, 03 December 2019 17:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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If there was a coherent plan for Eclipse, I would like to hear it. Then I might take an interest in it. The list of projects doesn't really help. All it tells me is that many people are working on many aspects of the project, but it doesn't tell me where it is heading, or when it might get there.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818016 is a reply to message #1817970] Wed, 04 December 2019 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Judging by the tone of Ed;s response(s), I must say that his tone is exactly what put people away. He thinks that being on Board of Directors gives him right to be rude towards people (who did nothing bad)......typical behaviour, seen excersised by many of highly ranked people.....

Another thing is granularity (in negative context) - there are so many subprojects to Eclipse that they themselves are lost.....

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so I know what the Foundation's budget is and how it's spent

Let me remind you that - under current law - you are obligated to share these details so Im all ears......

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what the heck is going on.

Im affraid this is not known even to members of BoD.......

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Is there a plan for further development for Eclipse?

I think that every member of BoD has his/her own plan, and they just are unable to reach consensus....... hence the "drama"

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but it ended up being more trouble than it was worth

Second this.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818024 is a reply to message #1818016] Wed, 04 December 2019 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I still don't get what it is that you consider rude. I could completely ignore you, but instead I repeatedly try to provide information related to your comments and questions, or ask for clarification.

I assume that you don't really expect Eclipse to restructure its projects to make them less granular. It's certainly not ideal from and "overview and cohesion" perspective, but this is how it is and will always be...

Under which law do you feel I am personally obligated to provide you the financial details of the Eclipse Foundation? As I understand it, when such information is presented at a meeting, it's board confidential. I do not discuss or share any confidential information.

As for "What the heck is going on", the Foundation doesn't make project plans. The Projects make project plans. The board of directors is not involved in this at all. So there is no drama in trying to reach consensus.

I would politely suggest that you consider carefully your own tone before you point fingers at tone of others. It seems clear that you don't like Eclipse, and don't want to use it. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and to choose to use the tool they feel is best for their own purpose. We can all just be civil and agree to disagree. I can believe that Eclipse is great while you can believe that Eclipse is buggy, complicated, confusing, and ill-managed. I would prefer to hear constructive, realistic criticism that could be addressed, but sometimes people get really frustrated and it's hard to remain constructive in that case. I'm sorry when that happens.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818025 is a reply to message #1818024] Wed, 04 December 2019 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@Ed :: I wanted to say that have just been updating Eclipse (Help > Check for Updates) and it found 10 updates, but when I accept them, accept license, and than let update run, there is still the same error. So nothing has ever been done with this.

From this topic: p2 (mechanism behind updating) is unmaintained. Seriously in such big project like Eclipse, there is a room for condition like this one? What it says about Eclipse to mildly-knowledgeable developer? To stay away from this product as its vulnerable to more && more malicious people/pieces of code.

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I assume that you don't really expect Eclipse to restructure its projects to make them less granular

This is exactly what I expect.....

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Under which law

Under EU laws. And I think that under US/Canada also..... generally - Eclipse Foundation is public entity and as such is required to make things like financial reports public.

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I still don't get what it is that you consider rude

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rude

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It would be great if you could attach the error log associated with what you did that failed. It's located in the <workspace>/.metadata/.log and also accessible via the Error Log view. I use p2 updates daily to update multiple IDEs because I work on Oomph technology that makes heavy use of p2 and I don't see such problems. So it would be good to understand what version of Eclipse you are updating and what you are trying to update it to.

As for protection against malice, p2 uses checksums to verify downloaded content and the content (distributed by Eclipse) is signed to validate the origin of that content. So I see no basis for concern.

If the Foundation (a non-profit organization) is required to share financial details, you may ask them for that directly via the "General inquiries":

https://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/contact.php

Have you considered that posting a link to the definition of rude might be interpreted as offensive? Given your sensitivity to rudeness, perhaps you can re-read your own first post and consider how you would feel about reading the following if it were directed to the software on which you personally work:
I strongly suggest closing down Eclipse as this bug (its a BUG) is still relevant 2 years on.....
It clearly shows that developers give a middle finger to it. Either because they don't have a clue what's going on, or they don't care....
When I read this, I can't help but feel offended. I am neither clueless nor careless.

Note that Chuck specifically posted details and that detail shows
java.net.UnknownHostException: download.eclipse.org
This is definitely a DNS error (not a p2 bug) and that can only be fixed in the network itself. So in the end, your comments about this being a bug is baseless.



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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818068 is a reply to message #1818039] Thu, 05 December 2019 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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your comments about this being a bug is baseless.

Dont think so. Mind that its not only me who wrote about it.....

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Have you considered that posting a link to the definition of rude might be interpreted as offensive?

Nope..... how posting a link may be offensive?

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When I read this, I can't help but feel offended

I dont see reason for being offended by definition.

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This is definitely a DNS error

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that can only be fixed in the network itself

Dont know which network you refer to. Everything fine here.

The fact that this is well known thing/bug (call it whatever) and given its represented by entry in Eclipse's bugzilla, states this to be a bug. So, you are wrong when you say Quote:
(not a p2 bug)
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818069 is a reply to message #1818068] Thu, 05 December 2019 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, your comments on this thread is baseless because this thread is about a DNS error yet the bug you point at (related to there being no corresponding artifact found) is something that I've already explain can and does happen when the server delivers a new metadata resource but an older artifact resource; this is generally a transient problem that corrects itself after a few minutes. It's arguably a bug in the server, but the servers do such caching for performance reasons...

But it appears you are not actually much interested in any of the actual concrete details of any the issues. Nor do you appear prepared to share any details about your actual problem. This leads me to believe that your evasiveness is likely because you do not actually have a problem log to share. I would theorize that you just like to bash Eclipse and the people here to help you and everyone else. Combine that with your hypersensitivity to the tone of other people's comments while being completely blind to the decidedly negative tone of your own posts, I really have to wonder if you are capable of introspection or self reflection.

Your computer has a network, a physical thing, through which the software fetches data. When a URL is accessed, the host name must be resolved to an IP address. This is the job of the Domain Name Server, which is also part of the physical/logical network of your machine and what to which it's physically connected. If DNS can't map a host name to an IP address, the software communicating through that network will produce errors exactly like what Chuck is seeing. Browser will fail like this too. These are low level aspects of the network, and there is nothing the client software can do to fix such problems. It's a problem that must be fixed via the operating system's configuration of the network. Even a Domain Name Server can fail. Also everything between your computer and the target server can fail, including the target server. None such failures are bugs in the software.

But, I don't think there's any point in trying to explain such things because you believe you understand everything better than do the clueless, careless people.

Unless you have a log to share with concrete details, there is no point in discuss all the hypothetical problems that you may have that may be like problems other people (who share actual details) might have.



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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818093 is a reply to message #1818069] Thu, 05 December 2019 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wojciech Lisik is currently offline Wojciech LisikFriend
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@Ed There is no sense talking to you as you seem to be completely out of touch with reality. Its a bug for a reason. And this not being acted upon for so long speaks volumes about your way of behaving.......
To be honest you act like typical BoD representative: arrogant, with "I know best as Im member of BoD" atitude......

You say its due to DNS, right? So, if it was true, than every person experiencing this bug with updating has his/her network misconfigured. Or do you mean that there are no skilled admins that know how to setup DNS correctly? Whatever you chose, I think you are wrong.
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818095 is a reply to message #1817940] Thu, 05 December 2019 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ed Merks wrote on Tue, 03 December 2019 04:15
. . . The members do the actual development work of the software on a per-project basis; they generally pay people (their employees) to work the project(s) of interest. So I think most, or at least many, are being paid to do development work, but the focus is at the funder's discretion. . .


Thank you for this. I kind of suspected this was the case, rather than an army of college students hacking away in the basement garrets. Of course there could still be an army of students hacking away, but knowing that there might be some responsible adults looking over the development is reassuring.

I still haven't seen a coherent plan, but maybe that's because everyone is busy with other things.

But that may be short sighted. First thing a brick & mortar construction company does when they are working on a big building is to erect a scaffold around it so the workers have a platform to stand on while they do their work. Unless you're in Mexico. They tie ladders together with duct tape and the prop them on top of rickety contrivances. Maybe we're in Mexico.

P.S. The way this page displays is getting annoying. I like to blow it up (Ctrl+ 3 or 4 times) to make it readable, but then I have to zoom back out (Ctrl 0) in order to get the 'Submit Reply' button to appear. Yes, I know I complained about it earlier, but nobody has fixed it, dag nab it.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818097 is a reply to message #1818095] Thu, 05 December 2019 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Chuck,

Yes, I don't think there are so many "coherent" plans. It's sort of agile spontaneity. Certainly on the projects on which I work, I'm mostly the only active committer and I mostly just plan to fix the problems that are reported and, time permitting, implement whatever feature seems like they will benefit the most people the most (or seem cool and challenging)...

Indeed the forum is not the best. We used to nttp have access so I could just use Thunderbird, which was way more comfortable for me, but alas we are stuck with this poor vehicle.

Wojciech,

There appears to be no sense discussing anything with you because you refuse to share details that would make it clear what "it" means when you say "it's a bug". "It" might be a bug, but unfortunately "it" is a vague moving target in your specific case.

An exception "java.net.UnknownHostException: download.eclipse.org" is definitely not a bug. For example, I've recently implemented a marketplace listing analyzer which uses p2 and produces this console output:

https://ci.eclipse.org/oomph/job/marketplace-analyzer/lastStableBuild/consoleFull

You'll see log entries like this:
java.net.UnknownHostException: javabeginners.info

If you visit that site in a browser, it fails too:

http://www.javabeginners.info/

There are many UnknownHostException exceptions in the log because the host isn't know. This is reality. Really, it can't be found because there is no such host. Unfortunately networks are nasty and have many points of failure. People contribute marketplace listings and then later there host goes away. Sometimes the host results in ConnectTimeoutException. Sometimes the cable service provider goes down. In each case, the problem is generally reproducible in a browser.

Unfortunately the axe-grinding, fact-free head space in which you appear to exist seems not capable of dealing with any factual details that do not conform to your predetermined point of view which says if it's a problem it's a bug and anyone who says otherwise is clueless. It's as if you are the ultimate arbiter of reality with the god-given right to be blatantly and perniciously rude, while whining about the tone of others. Our personal faults are so much more glaring when we see them in others. Perhaps you appear so arrogant to me because I am so arrogant , or perhaps the opposite is the case.

Arrogant as it my sound, I do have a great detail of experience (many, many years) with these problems and with these frameworks, so dismissing what I have to say as being simply out of touch is completely misguided. My role as an elected board member does not make me better than anyone else nor more knowledgeable. My experience makes me knowledgeable; if that's arrogant, then the shoe fits well.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818108 is a reply to message #1818097] Fri, 06 December 2019 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wojciech Lisik is currently offline Wojciech LisikFriend
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Quote:
refuse to share details

There is no need for me to provide details as it has already been provided, there is not much of them and they are identical. Having all this in mind, there is no need to repeat them.
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818113 is a reply to message #1818108] Fri, 06 December 2019 08:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, there is a need because we still don't know which specific problem your problem is identical to. At this point, I can only assume that you intransigence is based on the fact that you don't have any details that you could actually share. You certainly have no problem repeatedly posting on the forum, so why not repeat the requested details? That would seem like less effort, than explaining why you feel there is no need.

Perhaps you simply blocked the Eclipse application from having any internet access at some point when prompted by Windows. That's certainly ultra secure, but you won't be able to use p2 in that case (and the internal browser won't work either).


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818126 is a reply to message #1818113] Fri, 06 December 2019 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you tried updated Eclipse recently? Was it successful? If so, then one might conclude it was a transient problem that has gone away. If not, then the problem still exists. P2 means nothing to me. It might mean something to someone who is involved in making the update process work, but for anyone just trying to perform an update, it is meaningless.
When everything else that uses the internet is working EXCEPT the Eclipse update process, one might conclude that the problem is with the Eclipse update process. That might involve P2, whatever that is, but that's for someone who is working on the internals of the update process. If I have to know about P2 in order to preform an update, there is something wrong with the update process.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1818128 is a reply to message #1818126] Fri, 06 December 2019 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Chuck,

If you are asking me, I create installations and update installations daily; I'm responsible for making sure the Eclipse Installer works, and that's basically just a bootstrap update process. Yes that is almost always successful. I often do this in a "clean" environment and occasionally Windows bites me with access denied exceptions; darned virus scanners in combination with a poor file system implementation are a curse. Occasionally the main download.eclipse.org server times out. It used to do that once a week for the better part of a day because automated update checks kicked in at exactly the same time on all running Eclipse instances in each time zone, but that's long since been fixed. Note that this illustrate that hundreds of thousands of users were running Eclipse and successfully communicating with the server in general; unfortunately all starting at exactly the same minute. You might think I just invent "excuse problems" out of thin air, but really I don't:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=498116

Occasionally a mirror server is very slow and retries via a mirror kick in and downloads the artifacts. Worse still, some mirrors are so slow that downloading a single file from that server take longer than loading 100s of other files combined. So I had to implement a smarter strategy for using mirrors, i.e., probe the potential mirrors first with the smallest files, and then prioritize for reuse those mirrors with the highest delivery rate. That helped a lot.

So the short answer to your question is, yes there are definitely occasional transient problems, but they are infrequent.

As for p2, there is no need for p2 to mean anything to you. It's just the framework that manages how updates work. As a user you should be able to rely in it mostly just working properly most of the time. Sorry for using technical jargon.

The fundamental problem is that anything working with a network will not be 100% reliable because networks are not 100% reliable. I often tell my friend when he curses his phone or computer for loading a website "too" slowly (he's very impatient and expects instantaneous gratification for his every click) that it's just as likely the fault of the site's server as the fault of his hardware or software.

As for everything else working except Eclipse. That's of course very strange if/when that's the case. So I often ask users to try loading a page/file in their browser and also in Eclipse's internal browser to see if that works. I.e., any browser should be able to load this tiny index file.

https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2019-09/p2.index

if the Eclipse process itself can access the internet then the update framework (which always reads this index first) should be able to do so as well; but if not, something is causing a problem. Perhaps a firewall proxy needs to be configured (like one has to do for browsers when one is behind a firewall). That's configurable in Windows -> Preferences -> General -> Network Connections.

At one customer site, their firewall scanned all incoming files, taking so long to do so that the client software ended up timing out waiting for jars to be delivered. When it comes to failures, I hope I've seen them all by now, but life is full of surprises and hope dies last.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1819087 is a reply to message #1818128] Tue, 07 January 2020 16:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@Ed:

No, I did not block Eclipse as marketplace (and other things) work as they should.

Quote:
The fundamental problem is that anything working with a network will not be 100% reliable because networks are not 100% reliable.

Once again :: it is NOT a reliability issue. Very different one inb fact that you - for whatever reason - are not willing to accept

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1819096 is a reply to message #1819087] Tue, 07 January 2020 21:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've gotten lost in all the pronouns. Wojciech, are you referring to the "No repository found containing:" problems or the "Unknown Host" messages? And you're specifically, consistently, getting exactly the same messages, including plug-in and/or host names?

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1823182 is a reply to message #1819096] Sat, 21 March 2020 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wojciech Lisik is currently offline Wojciech LisikFriend
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Nitin Dahyabhai wrote on Tue, 07 January 2020 21:37
I've gotten lost in all the pronouns. Wojciech, are you referring to the "No repository found containing:" problems or the "Unknown Host" messages? And you're specifically, consistently, getting exactly the same messages, including plug-in and/or host names?

Yes. I am reffering to this:
https://i.imgur.com/z2BEOe5.png
And details:
An error occurred while collecting items to be installed
session context was:(profile=_Users_wlisik_eclipse_php-2019-03_Eclipse.app_Contents_Eclipse, phase=org.eclipse.equinox.internal.p2.engine.phases.Collect, operand=, action=).
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No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.common.modulecore.ui,1.0.301.v201903222010
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.core,1.4.400.v201903222010
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.ui,1.4.601.v201903222010
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.common.ui,1.1.700.v201905071717
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.common.uriresolver,1.2.300.v201903222010
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.dtdeditor.doc.user,1.1.0.v201903222120
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.internet.cache,1.0.800.v201903222010
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.internet.monitor.core,1.0.700.v201910252115
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.internet.monitor.ui,1.0.800.v201910252115
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium,0.5.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.debug,0.4.0.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.debug.core,0.5.300.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.debug.js,0.1.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.debug.jsdtbridge,0.5.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.debug.ui,0.6.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.wip.eclipse,0.5.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.wipbackend.dev,0.5.300.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.wipbackend.protocol_1_0,0.5.300.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.core,2.0.302.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.debug.core,3.2.200.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.debug.crossfire,1.0.500.v201903222047
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No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.debug.rhino.ui,1.0.500.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.debug.transport,1.0.300.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.debug.ui,1.0.600.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.doc,2.0.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.bower,1.0.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.cli,1.0.0.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.common,1.0.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.grunt,1.0.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.gulp,1.0.200.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.node,1.1.100.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.node.common,1.0.0.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.js.npm,1.0.300.v201903222101
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.manipulation,1.0.601.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.support.firefox,1.0.501.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.support.ie,1.0.601.v201903222047
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.ui,2.0.401.v201912012351
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.server.core,1.10.100.v201910252115
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.server.discovery,1.3.200.v201910252115
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.server.ui,1.5.600.v201910252115
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.sse.doc.user,1.2.0.v201903222120
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.validation,1.2.800.v201904082137
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.validation.infopop,1.0.300.v201903222010
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.validation.ui,1.2.600.v201903222010
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.ws,1.1.500.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.ws.explorer,1.0.1000.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.ws.parser,1.1.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.ws.ui,1.2.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.wsdl,1.3.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.ui,1.3.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.ui.doc.user,1.0.850.v201903222115
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.wsdl.validation,1.2.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.wsi,1.1.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.wsi.ui,1.1.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.wsi.ui.doc.user,1.0.750.v201903222115
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.xmleditor.doc.user,1.1.0.v201903222120
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.wst.xsdeditor.doc.user,1.0.800.v201903222120
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.eclipse.xsd,2.17.0.v20191117-1035
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.springframework.ide.eclipse.xml.namespaces,3.9.10.201909171046-RELEASE
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.core,3.9.10.201909170647-RELEASE
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No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.livexp,3.9.10.201909170647-RELEASE
No repository found containing: osgi.bundle,org.springsource.ide.eclipse.commons.ui,3.9.10.201909170647-RELEASE
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.ecf.core.feature,1.5.400.v20191023-2007
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.ecf.filetransfer.feature,3.14.600.v20191023-2007
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.emf.common,2.17.0.v20190920-0401
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.emf.ecore,2.20.0.v20190920-0401
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.jst.enterprise_core.feature,3.15.0.v201908261515
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.jst.enterprise_ui.feature,3.16.0.v201910241808
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.jst.enterprise_userdoc.feature,3.6.100.v201908261515
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.jst.web_core.feature,3.15.0.v201908261515
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.jst.web_ui.feature,3.15.0.v201908261515
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.jst.web_userdoc.feature,3.6.1.v201908261515
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.mylyn.wikitext.editors_feature,3.0.35.201912061959
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.mylyn.wikitext_feature,3.0.35.201912061959
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse.core,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse.dstore,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse.ftp,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse.local,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse.ssh,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse.telnet,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.rse.useractions,4.5.100.201911240504
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.common_core.feature,3.10.100.v201904082145
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.common_ui.feature,3.11.0.v201905071717
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.chromium.debug.feature,0.6.100.v201908270117
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.feature,2.1.4.v201912012351
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.jsdt.nodejs.feature,1.1.0.v201908270117
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.server_core.feature,3.3.800.v201910252115
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.server_ui.feature,3.3.900.v201910252115
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.ws_core.feature,3.8.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.ws_ui.feature,3.9.0.v201910301957
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.ws_userdoc.feature,3.1.501.v201909051708
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.eclipse.wst.xml_userdoc.feature,3.16.0.v201909302219
No repository found containing: org.eclipse.update.feature,org.springframework.ide.eclipse.xml.namespaces.feature,3.9.10.201909171046-RELEASE

[Updated on: Sat, 21 March 2020 12:39]

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1823183 is a reply to message #1823182] Sat, 21 March 2020 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Make sure your Available Software Sites preference page has and has enabled https://download.eclipse.org/releases/latest (or https://download.eclipse.org/releases/2019-12 if you care about the versions in the error message), and retry.

If that fails again, can you give the complete list of URLs shown in your Available Software Sites preference page?


Nitin Dahyabhai
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[Updated on: Sat, 21 March 2020 13:38]

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1823188 is a reply to message #1823183] Sat, 21 March 2020 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Ah, the no repository found problem! This seems to be a recurring issue as in this thread:

https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/1096112/1822947/#msg_1822947


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1824313 is a reply to message #1823188] Mon, 13 April 2020 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wojciech Lisik is currently offline Wojciech LisikFriend
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@Ed: as per linked topic:
Quote:
Try restarting the IDE;

Tried countless times. Absolutely NO luck

Quote:
so you could try deleting <home>/.eclipse/org.eclipse.oomph.p2/cache and <home>/.p2/org.eclipse.equinox.p2.repository/cache

On Mac, temp/cache folders are in different locations, but yes, Ive cleared them. Also no luck

Quote:
This seems to be a recurring issue

Methink that its recurring on alarming basis.....

Quote:
Make sure your Available Software Sites preference page has and has enabled

These have been enabled for very long time

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1824331 is a reply to message #1824313] Tue, 14 April 2020 04:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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I see you posted here as well:

https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/1096112/1824314/#msg_1824314

When you share a stack trace (or some type of specific details) of the failure, there's a chance someone will be able to help you.


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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1824347 is a reply to message #1824331] Tue, 14 April 2020 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@Ed: https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=1085725&goto=1823182&#msg_1823182
In the link above there is stacktrace...... btw link leads to specific answer in this very thread/topic. its weird you were unable to find it

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1824356 is a reply to message #1824347] Tue, 14 April 2020 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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It sounds like these bugs:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=519931
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=410721

Flushing the caches might help. It's also possible that the profile preferences are messed up. I.e., that the profile preference for the artifact repository is not enabled while the one for the content repository is enabled. What might help for that is to use Reload... on each repository in Install/Updates -> Available Software Sites.



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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1824362 is a reply to message #1824356] Tue, 14 April 2020 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wojciech Lisik is currently offline Wojciech LisikFriend
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@Ed:

Quote:
Flushing the caches might help. It's also possible that the profile preferences are messed up. I.e., that the profile preference for the artifact repository is not enabled while the one for the content repository is enabled. What might help for that is to use Reload... on each repository in Install/Updates -> Available Software Sites.

Tried reloading multiple times. No luck also..... And no, profile preferences are not messed up. Ive done quick tests: created empty new profile on my current machine (test 1); tested on working for sure profile on another machine (Windows; test 2); tested on another machine, but my current profile; also not working.

So, its not network failure on my end; as you suggested. Its Eclipse thats broken
Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1824375 is a reply to message #1824362] Tue, 14 April 2020 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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@Ed: to and to my previous post:

Quote:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=519931
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=410721


Creation dane? 2013 & 2017? Seriously Ed? There were no developers ready to provide working fix this back in 2013? It was well known back then and neither you nor any other dev did something to fix it? Or are you (not you personally, but both developers and foundations paid workers) not knowledgeable enough and you simply have no clue whats gong on?

I Think (and Im 99% certain that its true) that Theia (or whatever this shitty software is codenamed) has this bug also.

For me, who develops software thats good quality as well as person who tackles IT security, having on my SSD software that cannot be make up-to-date, is serious security flaw and kind of invitation for crackers and/or whole buch of exploits (lets be fair: dishonest people are on the hunt for unsecured/badly secured hardware and make it their target.

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1824444 is a reply to message #1824375] Wed, 15 April 2020 11:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It would indeed seem that everyone was lazy and that they continue to be lazy. Most probably it's also true that none are skilled enough or maybe many are just downright stupid. Perhaps you could step in and do a better job. It's open source and you appear to be highly skilled and highly motivated to help fix the egregious problems.

It might also be the case that Theia is total garbage too, especially with such a horrible name. Perhaps you could join the project and help change the name to something better; it's open source.



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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1826048 is a reply to message #1824444] Fri, 17 April 2020 15:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ive got absolutely no idea why you are being. sarcastic/ironic..... and probably have no need to know it.

And hell no, I will not be joining. For one good reason: I feel that Eclipse is falling quickly. Im not a rescueman. If project have difficulties, which are no fault of its developers/managers, than Id be more than happy to help.

But, because of the way you (member of management body) reacted, I received a signal "stop; you are dealing with arrogant. selfish, management, who is there fortheir salary and as such give a sh*t about the project they are supposed to take care of"......

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1826056 is a reply to message #1826048] Fri, 17 April 2020 20:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm not sure how else to respond at this point other than with 100% agreement. You know best and you have much expertise. There is no point in contradicting anything you say nor any point in clarifying any other insights. Everyone else is likely lazy, ignorant, or something closely associated with those attributes, with me personally being the worst of the bunch. The software is all bad. It's all insecure. And even the names are bad. There's just no excusing any of this nor should anyone expect you to help in any way, shape or form. We're all very sorry for that. I'm personally very sorry that I'm an arrogant and selfish person. It's probably a genetic fault, but I should nevertheless rise above the depth of my limitations and my deep ignorance. How best should I debase myself so that you feel vindicated and satisfied? Is there anyone else you feel should be further debased to help mitigate the outrage of this software quality?

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Re: 'Updating Software' has encountered a problem. [message #1826083 is a reply to message #1826056] Sat, 18 April 2020 17:34 Go to previous message
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Bugs have been reported and mentioned in this thread, but resources are finite, and no one with
the know-how has stepped up to find and fix the underlying cause so far. I'm locking this thread
as it has long since ceased to be productive. The sources are freely obtainable to anyone who
wants to work on or provide resources to create a fix.


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