| [XCore] xcore andChe [message #1753400] |
Sun, 05 February 2017 20:39  |
 Neil Mackenzie
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Hi,
I was wondering if there have been any efforts to get XCore editable (and useful via generators) in eclipse Che? Would such a thing be useful/interesting to others? it is something I may be able to devote some time to.
I am working on a DSL which has similarities to XCore. I plan to have a separation of responsibilities where domain experts can work on high level structure (e.g classes an attributes) but have programming experts work on more complex functions (like xbase functions for derived features or operations). I am very interested in having some textual editing AND visual tooling for this in Che (such as the basic 'outline view' available for xtext in eclipse IDE), and graphical comparison of structures using EMFCompare.
There are of course many challenges to doing this (use of LSP, outline view in Che, access to a DSL's AST in che, and many others). If they could be investigated in an open source project using a more well known DSL (i.e. Xcore), that would in turn help my project, and may help others. I note that sirius already has some visual '2 way' support of xtext languages, so some lessons could be useful there, but the implementation is likely to be very different for Che which uses quite different API's from RCP for UI . Also there has been some discussion and work done on integrating EMF and Che.
Any thoughts\ideas appreciated.
Regards,
Neil
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| Re: [XCore] xcore andChe [message #1753406 is a reply to message #1753400] |
Mon, 06 February 2017 04:45  |
Ed Merks
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Registered: July 2009 |
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Neil Mackenzie wrote on Sun, 05 February 2017 15:39Hi,
I was wondering if there have been any efforts to get XCore editable (and useful via generators) in eclipse Che? Not that I know of.Quote:Would such a thing be useful/interesting to others? I suspect so, though as an example, it's a rather complicated one. Quote: it is something I may be able to devote some time to.
I am working on a DSL which has similarities to XCore. I plan to have a separation of responsibilities where domain experts can work on high level structure (e.g classes an attributes) but have programming experts work on more complex functions (like xbase functions for derived features or operations). I am very interested in having some textual editing AND visual tooling for this in Che (such as the basic 'outline view' available for xtext in eclipse IDE), and graphical comparison of structures using EMFCompare. I see.Quote:
There are of course many challenges to doing this (use of LSP, outline view in Che, access to a DSL's AST in che, and many others). If they could be investigated in an open source project using a more well known DSL (i.e. Xcore), that would in turn help my project, and may help others. I note that sirius already has some visual '2 way' support of xtext languages, so some lessons could be useful there, but the implementation is likely to be very different for Che which uses quite different API's from RCP for UI . Also there has been some discussion and work done on integrating EMF and Che.
Any thoughts\ideas appreciated.
It's interesting, but as part of the EMF project, it's something I'd likely end up having to maintain personally. There's already a lot to variants to maintain, such as the GWT version of EMF of EMF Core and Edit, the RAP version of EMF UI. And of course it's a lot of new stuff to learn. So without funding, it's not so directly appealing, though definitely very interesting. You could certainly start as a public github project and of course I'm always willing to help and answer questions and the Xtext forum is always very helpful.Quote:
Regards,
Neil
Ed Merks
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