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Availability of Sirius plugins and code [message #1739780] Tue, 25 June 2013 13:05 Go to next message
Jaime Chavarriaga is currently offline Jaime ChavarriagaFriend
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After the approval of the Sirius project under the Eclipse Foundation,
- Can we get access to the existing (contributed) Sirius plugins and projects?
- Is there an early-release planned before the first build on the Eclipse infrastructure ?
Re: Availability of Sirius plugins and code [message #1739781 is a reply to message #1739780] Wed, 26 June 2013 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pierre-Charles David is currently offline Pierre-Charles DavidFriend
Messages: 701
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi, thanks for you interest in Sirius.

Le 25/06/2013 15:05, Jaime Chavarriaga a écrit :
> After the approval of the Sirius project under the Eclipse Foundation,
> - Can we get access to the existing (contributed) Sirius plugins and
projects?

Not yet. We are in the process of preparing the existing source code for
the initial contribution, which should happen in the next few days.
However this code will not be visible immediately as the Eclipse
Foundation's IP team must first review this submission and give us the
go. How much time this takes depends on the size of the submission and
availability of the IP team, so it is very difficult to predict a date
for the actual first visible commit. We should be eligible to the
parallel IP process
(http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Parallel_IP_Process),
if this is confirmed, then the code could appear on the repository
before the Eclipse IP team is done with the checks.

We will keep the community informed in this forum and the sirius-dev
mailing-list as soon as we get the process rolling.

> - Is there an early-release planned before the first build on the
Eclipse infrastructure ?

If you want to test the technology itself, you can do it right now by
using Obeo Designer (available at http://www.obeodesigner.com/). It is a
commercial product which includes (among other things) the Sirius
technology, except that it is called "Viewpoint" in current versions of
Obeo Designer and is commercial (you will not get the source code).

To be clear on the distinction between Sirius and Obeo Designer:
- Current versions of Obeo Designer include among other things a
(currently commercial) technology called "Viewpoint".
- Part of this "Viewpoint" technology (everything except the support for
collaborative modeling) will become Open Source under the name "Sirius"
as an Eclipse project. The transition (name and license change) is what
I was referring to when I said "we are in the process of preparing the
existing source code for the initial contribution".
- Once the transition is done, Obeo Designer will continue to exist as a
commercial product, but will include Sirius instead of Viewpoint (same
tech, different name and license), with commercial extensions (and
commercial support, etc.).

In terms of time frame, the plan is to get the first builds on the
Eclipse infrastructure in September, followed by a first release (0.x,
in incubation) around October. The objective is to get out of incubation
with a first 1.0 release in time for Eclipse Luna (Kepler+1) next June.


Pierre-Charles David - Obeo

Need training or professional services for Sirius?
http://www.obeodesigner.com/sirius
Re: Availability of Sirius plugins and code [message #1739783 is a reply to message #1739780] Thu, 12 September 2013 13:49 Go to previous message
Pierre-Charles David is currently offline Pierre-Charles DavidFriend
Messages: 701
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,

Le 25/06/2013 15:05, Jaime Chavarriaga a écrit :
> After the approval of the Sirius project under the Eclipse Foundation,
> - Can we get access to the existing (contributed) Sirius plugins and
> projects?

The initial version of the code is now available in the project's Git
repo, see http://git.eclipse.org/c/sirius/org.eclipse.sirius.git for
details. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/Sirius/Try_It for basic
instructions on how to build it.

> - Is there an early-release planned before the first build on the
> Eclipse infrastructure ?

We have a first build on an Hudson instance at Eclipse at
https://hudson.eclipse.org/sirius/, but this is not promoted yet in a
way that can easily be consumed.

If you are interested in the more technical side of the project I
encourage you to subscribe to the sirius-dev list
(http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sirius-dev). I posted a more
detailed message there yesterday and will continue to post updates on
the list instead of this forum until we have an actual release which can
readily be installed and used by end-users.

Regards,
Pierre-Charles David (Sirius project co-lead)


Pierre-Charles David - Obeo

Need training or professional services for Sirius?
http://www.obeodesigner.com/sirius
Re: Availability of Sirius plugins and code [message #1742020 is a reply to message #1739780] Wed, 26 June 2013 09:59 Go to previous message
Pierre-Charles David is currently offline Pierre-Charles DavidFriend
Messages: 701
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi, thanks for you interest in Sirius.

Le 25/06/2013 15:05, Jaime Chavarriaga a écrit :
> After the approval of the Sirius project under the Eclipse Foundation,
> - Can we get access to the existing (contributed) Sirius plugins and
projects?

Not yet. We are in the process of preparing the existing source code for
the initial contribution, which should happen in the next few days.
However this code will not be visible immediately as the Eclipse
Foundation's IP team must first review this submission and give us the
go. How much time this takes depends on the size of the submission and
availability of the IP team, so it is very difficult to predict a date
for the actual first visible commit. We should be eligible to the
parallel IP process
(http://wiki.eclipse.org/Development_Resources/HOWTO/Parallel_IP_Process),
if this is confirmed, then the code could appear on the repository
before the Eclipse IP team is done with the checks.

We will keep the community informed in this forum and the sirius-dev
mailing-list as soon as we get the process rolling.

> - Is there an early-release planned before the first build on the
Eclipse infrastructure ?

If you want to test the technology itself, you can do it right now by
using Obeo Designer (available at http://www.obeodesigner.com/). It is a
commercial product which includes (among other things) the Sirius
technology, except that it is called "Viewpoint" in current versions of
Obeo Designer and is commercial (you will not get the source code).

To be clear on the distinction between Sirius and Obeo Designer:
- Current versions of Obeo Designer include among other things a
(currently commercial) technology called "Viewpoint".
- Part of this "Viewpoint" technology (everything except the support for
collaborative modeling) will become Open Source under the name "Sirius"
as an Eclipse project. The transition (name and license change) is what
I was referring to when I said "we are in the process of preparing the
existing source code for the initial contribution".
- Once the transition is done, Obeo Designer will continue to exist as a
commercial product, but will include Sirius instead of Viewpoint (same
tech, different name and license), with commercial extensions (and
commercial support, etc.).

In terms of time frame, the plan is to get the first builds on the
Eclipse infrastructure in September, followed by a first release (0.x,
in incubation) around October. The objective is to get out of incubation
with a first 1.0 release in time for Eclipse Luna (Kepler+1) next June.


Pierre-Charles David - Obeo

Need training or professional services for Sirius?
http://www.obeodesigner.com/sirius
Re: Availability of Sirius plugins and code [message #1742022 is a reply to message #1739780] Thu, 12 September 2013 13:49 Go to previous message
Pierre-Charles David is currently offline Pierre-Charles DavidFriend
Messages: 701
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hello,

Le 25/06/2013 15:05, Jaime Chavarriaga a écrit :
> After the approval of the Sirius project under the Eclipse Foundation,
> - Can we get access to the existing (contributed) Sirius plugins and
> projects?

The initial version of the code is now available in the project's Git
repo, see http://git.eclipse.org/c/sirius/org.eclipse.sirius.git for
details. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/Sirius/Try_It for basic
instructions on how to build it.

> - Is there an early-release planned before the first build on the
> Eclipse infrastructure ?

We have a first build on an Hudson instance at Eclipse at
https://hudson.eclipse.org/sirius/, but this is not promoted yet in a
way that can easily be consumed.

If you are interested in the more technical side of the project I
encourage you to subscribe to the sirius-dev list
(http://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/sirius-dev). I posted a more
detailed message there yesterday and will continue to post updates on
the list instead of this forum until we have an actual release which can
readily be installed and used by end-users.

Regards,
Pierre-Charles David (Sirius project co-lead)


Pierre-Charles David - Obeo

Need training or professional services for Sirius?
http://www.obeodesigner.com/sirius
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