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repost from stem-dev@eclipse.org [message #1869] Thu, 02 April 2009 19:51 Go to next message
Daniel Ford is currently offline Daniel FordFriend
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I just posted this on the stem-dev mailing list and repeat it here for those
that might not be subscribed yet.

-----------------------------------

I've done a first pass on the new STEM website. I didn't do too much other
than change the original boilerplate to add links to the existing OHF pages.
http://www.eclipse.org/stem/

I've also filled out a bit of the project metadata which is used to
automatically populate the project summary page.
http://www.eclipse.org/projects/project_summary.php?projecti d=technology.stem

I also entered the first bug in the new STEM bugzilla.
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=271030

I also created three folders in STEM's new SVN repository,
"trunk","branches" and "tags", these are standard conventions for using SVN.
You can connect to the repository by installing subclipse
http://subclipse.tigris.org/ and then opening the "SVN Repositories" view.
In the view select "Add SVN Repository" (little button on the top) and use
the following URL.

svn+ssh://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/technology/org.eclipse.ste m

You should be prompted for user name and password, these are the same as you
use for CVS.

You should see the three folders under that location in the view. The trunk
folder is intended to be the root folder for the main stream of development.
By convention, all projects should appear as individual sub-folders under
trunk. eg.
svn+ssh://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/technology/org.eclipse.ste m/trunk/org.eclipse.stem.core
and
svn+ssh://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/technology/org.eclipse.ste m/trunk/org.eclipse.stem.ui
would be the conventional locations for new versions of the "core" and "ui"
projects to be "shared".

Dan_______________________________________________
stem-dev mailing list
stem-dev@eclipse.org
https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/stem-dev

Daniel Ford
IBM Almaden Research Center
San Jose, CA
National Language Support [message #1885 is a reply to message #1869] Sat, 04 April 2009 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner KeilFriend
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Hi,

Your Wiki page
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Welcome_STEM_Developers#National_Lan guage_Support
indicates, STEM supports other languages than English already.

Since STEM has been decided to remain "top level" Eclipse.org project, would
you also consider using Babel for that?

I know, for all base and extended Eclipse parts meant to be included with
Galileo this is an absolute MUST.
Being a somewhat independent RCP application, STEM may be under less
pressure here, but as this Eclipse project seems to work like most of the
others, registering with Babel and doing translations there does not seem a
problem.

You can also profit from Babel translations and translators. And a German or
French version of STEM (in Babel those are the 2 most active Western
"European" languages) would not only help you in Canada. Being usable in
their own countries and languages, scientists in those countries may also be
far more willing to participate and provide you the demographic data STEM
still is looking for in those countries.

On the other hand, since Babel already support Klingon, a special
"Californian English" would sure be very welcome for many geeks still in the
Silicon Valley, despite the world economic crisis.
Many of them certainly speak Klingon, too ;-)

Btw. any chance, STEM-like Geospacial models could be used to detect or
PREVENT such outbreaks, too ?!!!!)

Kind Regards,
Werner Keil
Language Champion (German) Eclipse Babel
(and the first guy to speak and write on OHF and STEM in Europe)
Re: National Language Support [message #1918 is a reply to message #1885] Mon, 06 April 2009 13:41 Go to previous message
Daniel Ford is currently offline Daniel FordFriend
Messages: 148
Registered: July 2009
Location: New York
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Yes, we did some initial work on supporting other languages in the code
base, including a special "California English" just to get things going.
This is actually quite important for the long term health of the project as
it is intended to be a "global platform" for collaboration on disease
modeling. It's not going to get there if it only supports English. Of the
current four committers, each is originally from a different country and we
speak three different native languages. One might think that there would be
three different language versions of STEM, but it isn't as easy as that.
There really needs to be someone who makes it their mission to enable NLS
support. The project probably needs an "NLS Manager".

--
Daniel Ford
IBM Almaden Research Center
San Jose, CA

"Werner Keil" <werner.keil@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:gr7el2$je4$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi,
>
> Your Wiki page
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Welcome_STEM_Developers#National_Lan guage_Support
> indicates, STEM supports other languages than English already.
>
> Since STEM has been decided to remain "top level" Eclipse.org project,
> would you also consider using Babel for that?
>
> I know, for all base and extended Eclipse parts meant to be included with
> Galileo this is an absolute MUST.
> Being a somewhat independent RCP application, STEM may be under less
> pressure here, but as this Eclipse project seems to work like most of the
> others, registering with Babel and doing translations there does not seem
> a problem.
>
> You can also profit from Babel translations and translators. And a German
> or French version of STEM (in Babel those are the 2 most active Western
> "European" languages) would not only help you in Canada. Being usable in
> their own countries and languages, scientists in those countries may also
> be far more willing to participate and provide you the demographic data
> STEM still is looking for in those countries.
>
> On the other hand, since Babel already support Klingon, a special
> "Californian English" would sure be very welcome for many geeks still in
> the Silicon Valley, despite the world economic crisis.
> Many of them certainly speak Klingon, too ;-)
>
> Btw. any chance, STEM-like Geospacial models could be used to detect or
> PREVENT such outbreaks, too ?!!!!)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Werner Keil
> Language Champion (German) Eclipse Babel
> (and the first guy to speak and write on OHF and STEM in Europe)
>
National Language Support [message #560587 is a reply to message #1869] Sat, 04 April 2009 11:00 Go to previous message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner KeilFriend
Messages: 1087
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi,

Your Wiki page
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Welcome_STEM_Developers#National_Lan guage_Support
indicates, STEM supports other languages than English already.

Since STEM has been decided to remain "top level" Eclipse.org project, would
you also consider using Babel for that?

I know, for all base and extended Eclipse parts meant to be included with
Galileo this is an absolute MUST.
Being a somewhat independent RCP application, STEM may be under less
pressure here, but as this Eclipse project seems to work like most of the
others, registering with Babel and doing translations there does not seem a
problem.

You can also profit from Babel translations and translators. And a German or
French version of STEM (in Babel those are the 2 most active Western
"European" languages) would not only help you in Canada. Being usable in
their own countries and languages, scientists in those countries may also be
far more willing to participate and provide you the demographic data STEM
still is looking for in those countries.

On the other hand, since Babel already support Klingon, a special
"Californian English" would sure be very welcome for many geeks still in the
Silicon Valley, despite the world economic crisis.
Many of them certainly speak Klingon, too ;-)

Btw. any chance, STEM-like Geospacial models could be used to detect or
PREVENT such outbreaks, too ?!!!!)

Kind Regards,
Werner Keil
Language Champion (German) Eclipse Babel
(and the first guy to speak and write on OHF and STEM in Europe)
Re: National Language Support [message #560606 is a reply to message #1885] Mon, 06 April 2009 13:41 Go to previous message
Daniel Ford is currently offline Daniel FordFriend
Messages: 148
Registered: July 2009
Location: New York
Senior Member
Yes, we did some initial work on supporting other languages in the code
base, including a special "California English" just to get things going.
This is actually quite important for the long term health of the project as
it is intended to be a "global platform" for collaboration on disease
modeling. It's not going to get there if it only supports English. Of the
current four committers, each is originally from a different country and we
speak three different native languages. One might think that there would be
three different language versions of STEM, but it isn't as easy as that.
There really needs to be someone who makes it their mission to enable NLS
support. The project probably needs an "NLS Manager".

--
Daniel Ford
IBM Almaden Research Center
San Jose, CA

"Werner Keil" <werner.keil@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:gr7el2$je4$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi,
>
> Your Wiki page
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Welcome_STEM_Developers#National_Lan guage_Support
> indicates, STEM supports other languages than English already.
>
> Since STEM has been decided to remain "top level" Eclipse.org project,
> would you also consider using Babel for that?
>
> I know, for all base and extended Eclipse parts meant to be included with
> Galileo this is an absolute MUST.
> Being a somewhat independent RCP application, STEM may be under less
> pressure here, but as this Eclipse project seems to work like most of the
> others, registering with Babel and doing translations there does not seem
> a problem.
>
> You can also profit from Babel translations and translators. And a German
> or French version of STEM (in Babel those are the 2 most active Western
> "European" languages) would not only help you in Canada. Being usable in
> their own countries and languages, scientists in those countries may also
> be far more willing to participate and provide you the demographic data
> STEM still is looking for in those countries.
>
> On the other hand, since Babel already support Klingon, a special
> "Californian English" would sure be very welcome for many geeks still in
> the Silicon Valley, despite the world economic crisis.
> Many of them certainly speak Klingon, too ;-)
>
> Btw. any chance, STEM-like Geospacial models could be used to detect or
> PREVENT such outbreaks, too ?!!!!)
>
> Kind Regards,
> Werner Keil
> Language Champion (German) Eclipse Babel
> (and the first guy to speak and write on OHF and STEM in Europe)
>
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