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| Papyrus and Subversive doesn't play well [message #1221671] |
Wed, 18 December 2013 07:52  |
 Tomas Sandkvist
Messages: 149
Registered: October 2013 |
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Made some tests with Subversive and found rather quickly a number of weird happenings.
My model has grown substantially over the months and it is a definite must to have it split into roughly 30 submodels, using the mechanism in Papyrus for splitting a model.
I also have two profiles I frequently extend.
All together, I began by coincidence to edit a profile and got several weird issues where it appeared as if my saves where not registered and the model where re-opened. Really strange.
The next time I opened the profile, my newly added stereotype was marked as unloaded (and it was just a stereotype element dragged from the toolbox). Also very strange.
Next I tried to open a submodel where the profile where applied and got the same really strange close-and-reopening behavior.
And finally, the dreaded message that my model was corrupted...
This time I was able to bail out by taking the model(s) out of versioning, but phweeew was I breaking a sweat until I had checked all the subparts for problems.
So, once again, hard-to-figure-out-why behavior, and I can't do much more than spread the word to you guys so that you are aware of what might happen. I haven't got the time to investigate this any further due to delivery requirements, and I don't know if it is worth to log a Bug entry while being so diffuse about the origins.
Any other experiences, positive or negative are appreciated!
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| Re: Papyrus and Subversive doesn't play well [message #1222585 is a reply to message #1221671] |
Fri, 20 December 2013 20:49  |
Marc-Florian Wendland
Messages: 83
Registered: January 2013 |
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Dear Tomas,
I can at least confirm the strange re-open behavior when I save my model
after changes (however, in my case, the changes are retained). This is, of
course annoying, since it takes a little time to save, close and re-open the
model. I was not able to indentify the reason for this behavior. At some
point in time while working with Papyrus it simply appears to happen
arbitrarily. I would be very interested why this happens (in the 0.8.2
version, Papyrus did not act like this).
Regards,
Marc-Florian
"Tomas Sandkvist" wrote in message news:l8rk8s$d67$1@xxxxxxxxe.org...
Made some tests with Subversive and found rather quickly a number of weird
happenings.
My model has grown substantially over the months and it is a definite must
to have it split into roughly 30 submodels, using the mechanism in Papyrus
for splitting a model.
I also have two profiles I frequently extend.
All together, I began by coincidence to edit a profile and got several weird
issues where it appeared as if my saves where not registered and the model
where re-opened. Really strange.
The next time I opened the profile, my newly added stereotype was marked as
unloaded (and it was just a stereotype element dragged from the toolbox).
Also very strange.
Next I tried to open a submodel where the profile where applied and got the
same really strange close-and-reopening behavior.
And finally, the dreaded message that my model was corrupted...
This time I was able to bail out by taking the model(s) out of versioning,
but phweeew was I breaking a sweat until I had checked all the subparts for
problems.
So, once again, hard-to-figure-out-why behavior, and I can't do much more
than spread the word to you guys so that you are aware of what might happen.
I haven't got the time to investigate this any further due to delivery
requirements, and I don't know if it is worth to log a Bug entry while being
so diffuse about the origins.
Any other experiences, positive or negative are appreciated!
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| Re: Papyrus and Subversive doesn't play well [message #1225614 is a reply to message #1222585] |
Mon, 30 December 2013 09:44 |
Ed Willink
Messages: 7655
Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi
My first reaction to this thread was that this must be a
misunderstanding, CM tools should be orthogonal to file maintenance tools.
However, in the past I have found the underlying philosophy of
Subversion that makes Subversion 'better' than CVS flawed. Subversion
can handle the history of renames that it understands. Conversely
Subversion can make a complete mess of copies that it does not
understand, i.e ones that you use the Eclipse Package Explorer or your
OS Explorer for. I have had two Eclipse plugins checked out to the same
Subversion repo, one the original, the other a new plugin started by
naive folder copy, notepad edit and add project. Needless to say I got
confused when my new plugin started changing my old one.
Perhaps the way in which Papyrus maintains folders has changed and
Subversion is confused.
Regards
Ed Willink
On 20/12/2013 20:49, Marc-Florian Wendland wrote:
> Dear Tomas,
>
> I can at least confirm the strange re-open behavior when I save my
> model after changes (however, in my case, the changes are retained).
> This is, of course annoying, since it takes a little time to save,
> close and re-open the model. I was not able to indentify the reason
> for this behavior. At some point in time while working with Papyrus it
> simply appears to happen arbitrarily. I would be very interested why
> this happens (in the 0.8.2 version, Papyrus did not act like this).
>
> Regards,
> Marc-Florian
>
>
> "Tomas Sandkvist" wrote in message news:l8rk8s$d67$1@xxxxxxxxe.org...
>
> Made some tests with Subversive and found rather quickly a number of
> weird happenings.
>
> My model has grown substantially over the months and it is a definite
> must to have it split into roughly 30 submodels, using the mechanism
> in Papyrus for splitting a model.
>
> I also have two profiles I frequently extend.
>
> All together, I began by coincidence to edit a profile and got several
> weird issues where it appeared as if my saves where not registered and
> the model where re-opened. Really strange.
>
> The next time I opened the profile, my newly added stereotype was
> marked as unloaded (and it was just a stereotype element dragged from
> the toolbox). Also very strange.
>
> Next I tried to open a submodel where the profile where applied and
> got the same really strange close-and-reopening behavior.
>
> And finally, the dreaded message that my model was corrupted...
>
> This time I was able to bail out by taking the model(s) out of
> versioning, but phweeew was I breaking a sweat until I had checked all
> the subparts for problems.
>
> So, once again, hard-to-figure-out-why behavior, and I can't do much
> more than spread the word to you guys so that you are aware of what
> might happen. I haven't got the time to investigate this any further
> due to delivery requirements, and I don't know if it is worth to log a
> Bug entry while being so diffuse about the origins.
>
> Any other experiences, positive or negative are appreciated!
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