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Two Debug UI API Questions [message #188302] Tue, 16 January 2007 03:10 Go to next message
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Originally posted by: frew.stanford.edu

Hey all,

I'm working on porting a plugin that simplifies the Eclipse UI for
students who are taking an introductory computer science course.
Unfortunately, this is tied into a lot of the internal API, particularly
the debug API, (which I realize is a bad thing on a number of levels).
I've spent a fair amount of time trying to get a feel for how things work,
but I'm having a hard time getting a high level picture of how the pieces
are interacting. So I have a couple of questions:

1) Are there some kind of design docs or articles that give a high level
of what's going on with the debug UI? I've seen a couple that look like
they were from the 2.x time period, but I don't have a good basis for
evaluating how relevant they are to the current build.

2) I've been trying to break out the console into a separate window (to
make working with graphical programs more intuitive). I've made some
progress working with ConsoleView in org.eclipse.ui.internal.console but
it seems very well connected with the various workbench classes. There
were some entries in the bug database suggesting that at one time there
was limited support for detaching views, but it looks like that's fallen
by the wayside. Any pointers for a relatively painless way to detach this,
or is the best bet to keep chugging along?

Apologies in advance if I missed something obvious or this is the wrong
group for these questions.

Thanks,
Fred Wulff
Re: Two Debug UI API Questions [message #188348 is a reply to message #188302] Tue, 16 January 2007 09:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: dmsubs.NOSPAM.consertum.com

--
Derek


Fred Wulff wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I'm working on porting a plugin that simplifies the Eclipse UI for
> students who are taking an introductory computer science course.
> Unfortunately, this is tied into a lot of the internal API, particularly
> the debug API, (which I realize is a bad thing on a number of levels).
> I've spent a fair amount of time trying to get a feel for how things
> work, but I'm having a hard time getting a high level picture of how the
> pieces are interacting. So I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1) Are there some kind of design docs or articles that give a high level
> of what's going on with the debug UI? I've seen a couple that look like
> they were from the 2.x time period, but I don't have a good basis for
> evaluating how relevant they are to the current build.
>
> 2) I've been trying to break out the console into a separate window (to
> make working with graphical programs more intuitive). I've made some
> progress working with ConsoleView in org.eclipse.ui.internal.console but
> it seems very well connected with the various workbench classes. There
> were some entries in the bug database suggesting that at one time there
> was limited support for detaching views, but it looks like that's fallen
> by the wayside. Any pointers for a relatively painless way to detach
> this, or is the best bet to keep chugging along?

Are you trying to do something other than 'detach' (right click and selected
'Detached' from the context menu)?

>
> Apologies in advance if I missed something obvious or this is the wrong
> group for these questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Fred Wulff
>
Re: Two Debug UI API Questions [message #188726 is a reply to message #188348] Wed, 17 January 2007 22:35 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: frew.stanford.edu

At least a limited subset of the detachment functionality is basically
what I'm getting at - it just doesn't exist on the OS X platform (see the
suite of bugs linked by #8886). I suppose what I'm really after is just
the opinion of somebody more well-versed in SWT and the UI API as to where
would be the most promising level to break the ConsoleView out to its own
shell (or whether it would be better to just work directly on fixing the
general reparentable problem).

Thanks,
Fred
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