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2 Property views? [message #149081] Mon, 30 August 2004 20:40 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.bphnx.com

Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For example, for
each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?


thank you,

B
Re: 2 Property views? [message #149105 is a reply to message #149081] Mon, 30 August 2004 23:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sean Woodhouse is currently offline Sean WoodhouseFriend
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B,

Check out the IBM contributed 'Tabbed Property View'. You can find more
information on it here:

http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/index.html

and the initial Web Tools contribution is here:

http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/initial-contr ibutions/ibm.zip

Cheers

Sean.


"bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
news:ch03b4$hbp$1@eclipse.org...
> Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For example, for
> each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
> model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
> attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?
>
>
> thank you,
>
> B
>
Re: 2 Property views? [message #149112 is a reply to message #149081] Tue, 31 August 2004 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pratik Shah is currently offline Pratik ShahFriend
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Sean probably meant to link to this:
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/initial-contribution/IBM/eva lGuides/TabbedPropertyEval.html?p=1

You can create as many views as you want, and thus as many properties views
as you want. Of course, nobody other than you is going to be contributing
to those views. IMO, it's better to keep all the properties together. If
the current view does not meet your needs, move everything to a custom view.


"bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
news:ch03b4$hbp$1@eclipse.org...
> Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For example, for
> each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
> model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
> attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?
>
>
> thank you,
>
> B
>
Re: 2 Property views? [message #149156 is a reply to message #149112] Tue, 31 August 2004 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.bphnx.com

It's not better to keep all the properties together. I have view
properties and business properties. Why would I keep them together? It
doesn't make sense.

Thanks for the links! This will help. I will probably end up creating a
custom view.

thanks,

B


Pratik Shah wrote:

> Sean probably meant to link to this:
>
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/initial-contribution/IBM/eva lGuides/TabbedPropertyEval.html?p=1

> You can create as many views as you want, and thus as many properties views
> as you want. Of course, nobody other than you is going to be contributing
> to those views. IMO, it's better to keep all the properties together. If
> the current view does not meet your needs, move everything to a custom view.


> "bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
> news:ch03b4$hbp$1@eclipse.org...
> > Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For example, for
> > each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
> > model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
> > attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?
> >
> >
> > thank you,
> >
> > B
> >
Re: 2 Property views? [message #149170 is a reply to message #149156] Tue, 31 August 2004 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: gaslade.yahoo.com

Having a single view can make plenty of sense. IMHO Eclipse is suffering
from view bloat.... I get sick and tired of having to jump around 3 or 4
different views to do what I need to do.
In your case you could do something like a custom view that has a button
to flick between your business and view properties, or maybe show them
in a tree structure where there are two top level parents...view and
business.

Guy

bandrews wrote:
> It's not better to keep all the properties together. I have view
> properties and business properties. Why would I keep them together? It
> doesn't make sense.
>
> Thanks for the links! This will help. I will probably end up creating a
> custom view.
>
> thanks,
>
> B
>
>
> Pratik Shah wrote:
>
>
>>Sean probably meant to link to this:
>>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/initial-contribution/IBM/eva lGuides/TabbedPropertyEval.html?p=1
>
>
>>You can create as many views as you want, and thus as many properties views
>>as you want. Of course, nobody other than you is going to be contributing
>>to those views. IMO, it's better to keep all the properties together. If
>>the current view does not meet your needs, move everything to a custom view.
>
>
>
>>"bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
>>news:ch03b4$hbp$1@eclipse.org...
>>
>>>Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For example, for
>>>each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
>>>model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
>>>attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?
>>>
>>>
>>>thank you,
>>>
>>>B
>>>
>
>
>
Re: 2 Property views? [message #149183 is a reply to message #149170] Tue, 31 August 2004 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.bphnx.com

"In your case you could do something like a custom view that has a button
to flick between your business and view properties"

Ok, so what's the difference in having to click on a button and clicking
on a tab? In my opinion, clicking on a tab is much nicer looking.

"or maybe show them in a tree structure where there are two top level
parents"

Good idea!






Guy Slade wrote:

> Having a single view can make plenty of sense. IMHO Eclipse is suffering
> from view bloat.... I get sick and tired of having to jump around 3 or 4
> different views to do what I need to do.
> In your case you could do something like a custom view that has a button
> to flick between your business and view properties, or maybe show them
> in a tree structure where there are two top level parents...view and
> business.

> Guy

> bandrews wrote:
> > It's not better to keep all the properties together. I have view
> > properties and business properties. Why would I keep them together? It
> > doesn't make sense.
> >
> > Thanks for the links! This will help. I will probably end up creating a
> > custom view.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > B
> >
> >
> > Pratik Shah wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Sean probably meant to link to this:
> >>
> >
> >
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/initial-contribution/IBM/eva lGuides/TabbedPropertyEval.html?p=1
> >
> >
> >>You can create as many views as you want, and thus as many properties views
> >>as you want. Of course, nobody other than you is going to be contributing
> >>to those views. IMO, it's better to keep all the properties together. If
> >>the current view does not meet your needs, move everything to a custom
view.
> >
> >
> >
> >>"bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
> >>news:ch03b4$hbp$1@eclipse.org...
> >>
> >>>Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For example, for
> >>>each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
> >>>model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
> >>>attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>thank you,
> >>>
> >>>B
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
Re: 2 Property views? [message #149245 is a reply to message #149183] Tue, 31 August 2004 17:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.us.ibm.com

The difference is that the view tab does nothing when using all other types
of editors. Whereas the button would disappear when using other editors.

Why don't you just merge the two sets of properties together. Do you think
that the user has this mental model of business and view model separated?
You can also use categories in the propertysheet to separate the two.

"bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
news:ch1ttr$8sb$1@eclipse.org...
> "In your case you could do something like a custom view that has a button
> to flick between your business and view properties"
>
> Ok, so what's the difference in having to click on a button and clicking
> on a tab? In my opinion, clicking on a tab is much nicer looking.
>
> "or maybe show them in a tree structure where there are two top level
> parents"
>
> Good idea!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Guy Slade wrote:
>
> > Having a single view can make plenty of sense. IMHO Eclipse is suffering
> > from view bloat.... I get sick and tired of having to jump around 3 or 4
> > different views to do what I need to do.
> > In your case you could do something like a custom view that has a button
> > to flick between your business and view properties, or maybe show them
> > in a tree structure where there are two top level parents...view and
> > business.
>
> > Guy
>
> > bandrews wrote:
> > > It's not better to keep all the properties together. I have view
> > > properties and business properties. Why would I keep them together? It
> > > doesn't make sense.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the links! This will help. I will probably end up creating
a
> > > custom view.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > > B
> > >
> > >
> > > Pratik Shah wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Sean probably meant to link to this:
> > >>
> > >
> > >
>
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/initial-contribution/IBM/eva lGuides/TabbedPropertyEval.html?p=1
> > >
> > >
> > >>You can create as many views as you want, and thus as many properties
views
> > >>as you want. Of course, nobody other than you is going to be
contributing
> > >>to those views. IMO, it's better to keep all the properties together.
If
> > >>the current view does not meet your needs, move everything to a custom
> view.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>"bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:ch03b4$hbp$1@eclipse.org...
> > >>
> > >>>Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For
example, for
> > >>>each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
> > >>>model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
> > >>>attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>thank you,
> > >>>
> > >>>B
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
Re: 2 Property views? [message #149266 is a reply to message #149245] Tue, 31 August 2004 18:24 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: none.bphnx.com

"Do you think that the user has this mental model of business and view
model separated?"

Absolutely! It all depends on your target audience. Have you ever looked
at Poseidon for UML? They do just that!

"You can also use categories in the propertysheet to separate the two."

Another good idea. Thanks!






Randy Hudson wrote:

> The difference is that the view tab does nothing when using all other types
> of editors. Whereas the button would disappear when using other editors.

> Why don't you just merge the two sets of properties together. Do you think
> that the user has this mental model of business and view model separated?
> You can also use categories in the propertysheet to separate the two.

> "bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
> news:ch1ttr$8sb$1@eclipse.org...
> > "In your case you could do something like a custom view that has a button
> > to flick between your business and view properties"
> >
> > Ok, so what's the difference in having to click on a button and clicking
> > on a tab? In my opinion, clicking on a tab is much nicer looking.
> >
> > "or maybe show them in a tree structure where there are two top level
> > parents"
> >
> > Good idea!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Guy Slade wrote:
> >
> > > Having a single view can make plenty of sense. IMHO Eclipse is suffering
> > > from view bloat.... I get sick and tired of having to jump around 3 or 4
> > > different views to do what I need to do.
> > > In your case you could do something like a custom view that has a button
> > > to flick between your business and view properties, or maybe show them
> > > in a tree structure where there are two top level parents...view and
> > > business.
> >
> > > Guy
> >
> > > bandrews wrote:
> > > > It's not better to keep all the properties together. I have view
> > > > properties and business properties. Why would I keep them together? It
> > > > doesn't make sense.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the links! This will help. I will probably end up creating
> a
> > > > custom view.
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > >
> > > > B
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pratik Shah wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Sean probably meant to link to this:
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/initial-contribution/IBM/eva lGuides/TabbedPropertyEval.html?p=1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>You can create as many views as you want, and thus as many properties
> views
> > > >>as you want. Of course, nobody other than you is going to be
> contributing
> > > >>to those views. IMO, it's better to keep all the properties together.
> If
> > > >>the current view does not meet your needs, move everything to a custom
> > view.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>"bandrews" <none@bphnx.com> wrote in message
> > > >>news:ch03b4$hbp$1@eclipse.org...
> > > >>
> > > >>>Is is possible to create 2 properties views for a figure? For
> example, for
> > > >>>each figure I have a view model (size, location, etc.) and a business
> > > >>>model (business stuff), and I want to be able to change each models
> > > >>>attributes via 2 separate properties views. Is this possible?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>thank you,
> > > >>>
> > > >>>B
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
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