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icon9.gif  update, uninstall, or leave the country? [message #997123] Thu, 03 January 2013 20:13 Go to next message
L P is currently offline L PFriend
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Registered: January 2013
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Wow, I thought I posted about my problems, but it's nowhere to be found. Win XP sp3

0. I installed Eclipse about 2-3 years ago for a Java course I took and have seldom used it since. I'm about to start another course that will use Java so I need Eclipse again.

1. I went to check for updates under the help menu and the front screen, and it said there are none! Yet there is of course a newer version. This is what I have now: Version: Helios Service Release 2
Build id: 20110301-1815
BTW that happens to me every time both with Eclipse and Aptana. Check for Updates has never worked. If it works for others, I must be doing something wrong. What? That is my first problem/question.

2. I downloaded the latest Eclipse IDE for Java Developers. Should I uninstall my current version before I do anything else? Because I can't unzip the new file to my Program Files folder because there would be two eclipse folders.

3. I tried unzipping and running the new version and got several requests for a password so I could download a file. One file was pom.xml IIRC. I tried dismissing these but they kept coming up so I canceled the whole thing and came here for help.

4. My first post disappeared! Please don't delete this! I need Eclipse.


Re: update, uninstall, or leave the country? [message #997136 is a reply to message #997123] Thu, 03 January 2013 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Williams is currently offline David WilliamsFriend
Messages: 722
Registered: July 2009
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On 01/03/2013 04:21 PM, Linda Pescatore wrote:
> Wow, I thought I posted about my problems, but it's nowhere to be
> found. Win XP sp3
>
> 0. I installed Eclipse about 2-3 years ago for a Java course I took
> and have seldom used it since. I'm about to start another course that
> will use Java so I need Eclipse again.
> 1. I went to check for updates under the help menu and the front
> screen, and it said there are none! Yet there is of course a newer
> version. This is what I have now: Version: Helios Service Release 2
> Build id: 20110301-1815
> BTW that happens to me every time both with Eclipse and Aptana. Check
> for Updates has never worked. If it works for others, I must be doing
> something wrong. What? That is my first problem/question.
>

The "check for updates" only checks for things for that release you have
.... Helios Service Release 2 was the "last" service for Helios. While
some "tricks" might accomplish you to update it, To Indigo or Juno, I'd
recommend starting with fresh download (from Juno, SR1 ... the latest
release, Juno SR2 due out the 4th Friday of February, 2013 ... so, you
could update then! :)

> 2. I downloaded the latest Eclipse IDE for Java Developers. Should I
> uninstall my current version before I do anything else? Because I
> can't unzip the new file to my Program Files folder because there
> would be two eclipse folders.
>

You can rename the folder "eclipse" to something like
"eclipseHeliosSR2". That might break some of your shortcuts or similar,
but once you run the eclipse executable under that folder, everything
should still work. That's what I do ... rename ... though admit I
usually do it "at the beginning" after unzipping it.

> 3. I tried unzipping and running the new version and got several
> requests for a password so I could download a file. One file was
> pom.xml IIRC. I tried dismissing these but they kept coming up so I
> canceled the whole thing and came here for help.
>

This request for password, while unzipping, is one sign of windows not
well handling the large zip files from Eclipse. This is a "known issue"
and several alternatives are listed in
http://wiki.eclipse.org/SDK_Known_Issues

Hope one of them works for you.
Re: update, uninstall, or leave the country? [message #997138 is a reply to message #997123] Thu, 03 January 2013 22:23 Go to previous message
Russell Bateman is currently offline Russell BatemanFriend
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Registered: July 2009
Location: Provo, Utah, USA
Senior Member

On 1/3/2013 2:21 PM, Linda Pescatore wrote:
> Wow, I thought I posted about my problems, but it's nowhere to be found.
> Win XP sp3
>
> 0. I installed Eclipse about 2-3 years ago for a Java course I took and
> have seldom used it since. I'm about to start another course that will
> use Java so I need Eclipse again.
> 1. I went to check for updates under the help menu and the front screen,
> and it said there are none! Yet there is of course a newer version. This
> is what I have now: Version: Helios Service Release 2
> Build id: 20110301-1815
> BTW that happens to me every time both with Eclipse and Aptana. Check
> for Updates has never worked. If it works for others, I must be doing
> something wrong. What? That is my first problem/question.
>
> 2. I downloaded the latest Eclipse IDE for Java Developers. Should I
> uninstall my current version before I do anything else? Because I can't
> unzip the new file to my Program Files folder because there would be two
> eclipse folders.
>
> 3. I tried unzipping and running the new version and got several
> requests for a password so I could download a file. One file was pom.xml
> IIRC. I tried dismissing these but they kept coming up so I canceled the
> whole thing and came here for help.
>
> 4. My first post disappeared! Please don't delete this! I need Eclipse.

1. I'll leave this to someone else.

2. You have done the right thing. As Eclipse isn't really installed, you
can just explode the zip file alongside the existing one (that is, in a
subdirectory alongside, but not in or under the existing one). If it
were me, I'd rename the old one "eclipse-helios" and the new one
"eclipse" since it's the one you're going to use. When or if you wish to
free up the disk space, just drag the old (eclipse-helios) folder into
the trash; make sure any workspace folder (with code you want to keep)
isn't down under that one (normally not the case).

3. I'm not sure what you're seeing here. There should be no passwords or
permissions trouble as you're on XP not Vista/7/8. You should have
downloaded a zip file from eclipse.org and you're unzipping it to where
you want to put it. Under Windows 7, this would be C:\Users\linda, but
under XP, I always just placed it on C:\eclipse since it was the most
important piece of software I was going to use. Glance at
http://wiki.eclipse.org/SDK_Known_Issues to make sure your choice of zip
program isn't affecting you.

4. We aim to please and won't delete your post. Someone else will fill
in with the detail I couldn't manage for you.

Best of luck!
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