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| VE 1.3 [message #134215] |
Fri, 15 December 2006 16:58  |
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Originally posted by: nasser.keshmirshekan.rbccm.com
This maybe a dumb question but I have been spending past 20 minutes trying
to find VE 1.3 Roadmap and what are planned for the next version but there
has been no luck. Is VE project ending or am I missing something?
Appreciate help...
Cheers,
Nasser
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| Re: VE 1.3 [message #134346 is a reply to message #134278] |
Wed, 20 December 2006 08:56  |
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"James Schwarzmeier" <James.D.Schwarzmeier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ee77f459a19952ed6c7e573d1a0d26a$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Agreed. Plus, I think if VE wants to get on the Eclipse 3.3/Europa
> release train, they need to do so VERY soon.
Who would "they" be? ;-) Are you volunteering? The VE project is like any
other Eclipse project...more or less happens on it based on the amount of
time people have to work on it. The more people willing to contribute time
on the project, the more will get done. As it stands, the Eclipse VE
Swing/SWT GUI builder is a very nice tool and easily fulfills its goal of
being a exemplary example of what can be created with the VE project code
base.
> I think a good visual editor (for both GUIs and web-based interfaces) is
> key to Eclipse to be used by organizations without the expertise or
> resources to create user interfaces by hand.
FYI...a number of good visual editors are available for Eclipse in addition
to the VE:
Jigloo - SWT & Swing support, commercial, inexpensive, free NC usage
http://cloudgarden.com/jigloo/
JFormsDesigner - Swing support only, available for multiple IDEs, commercial
http://www.jformdesigner.com/
Matisse4MyEclipse - Swing support only, part of MyEclipse, commercial, very
inexpensive
http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.h tml
WindowBuilder Pro - SWT, Swing & GWT support (our product), commercial,
inexpensive academic and NC licenses
Winner of Eclipse Magazin's 2006 Reader's Choice Award for Best
Eclipse-based Commercial Software Solution.
http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
BTW, all of the above products are very well supported by their respective
vendors.
-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
http://www.instantiations.com
http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321228472
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| Re: VE 1.3 [message #134368 is a reply to message #134346] |
Wed, 20 December 2006 11:29 |
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Originally posted by: James.D.Schwarzmeier.gmail.com
This is true. Although, often Eclipse member companies will have an
interest or stake in a particular project, and will contribute employee
time towards development. This may or may not be the case with VE; I
don't know.
It remains true, however, that if VE is to survive as an exemplary editor,
it does need to keep up with UI technologies. For instance, a number of
improvements have been made to the SWT for Eclipse 3.3. And it also
remains true that if VE wants to be a part of Europa, it needs to join
soon! I'm not trying to put down the talented contributors, just pointing
out a reality. :-)
And thanks for the tips on other VE-based products. That's very helpful!
Cheers,
-James
Eric Clayberg wrote:
> "James Schwarzmeier" <James.D.Schwarzmeier@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7ee77f459a19952ed6c7e573d1a0d26a$1@www.eclipse.org...
>> Agreed. Plus, I think if VE wants to get on the Eclipse 3.3/Europa
>> release train, they need to do so VERY soon.
> Who would "they" be? ;-) Are you volunteering? The VE project is like any
> other Eclipse project...more or less happens on it based on the amount of
> time people have to work on it. The more people willing to contribute time
> on the project, the more will get done. As it stands, the Eclipse VE
> Swing/SWT GUI builder is a very nice tool and easily fulfills its goal of
> being a exemplary example of what can be created with the VE project code
> base.
>> I think a good visual editor (for both GUIs and web-based interfaces) is
>> key to Eclipse to be used by organizations without the expertise or
>> resources to create user interfaces by hand.
> FYI...a number of good visual editors are available for Eclipse in addition
> to the VE:
> Jigloo - SWT & Swing support, commercial, inexpensive, free NC usage
> http://cloudgarden.com/jigloo/
> JFormsDesigner - Swing support only, available for multiple IDEs, commercial
> http://www.jformdesigner.com/
> Matisse4MyEclipse - Swing support only, part of MyEclipse, commercial, very
> inexpensive
> http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.h tml
> WindowBuilder Pro - SWT, Swing & GWT support (our product), commercial,
> inexpensive academic and NC licenses
> Winner of Eclipse Magazin's 2006 Reader's Choice Award for Best
> Eclipse-based Commercial Software Solution.
> http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
> BTW, all of the above products are very well supported by their respective
> vendors.
> -Eric Clayberg
> Sr. Vice President of Product Development
> Instantiations, Inc.
> http://www.instantiations.com
> http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
> Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
> http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321228472
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| Re: VE 1.3 [message #614923 is a reply to message #134228] |
Mon, 18 December 2006 10:33 |
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Originally posted by: nasser.keshmirshekan.rbccm.com
That is just wrong!!
I guess I should stop recommending VE/Eclipse as the tool of choice for my
projects then!
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| Re: VE 1.3 [message #614926 is a reply to message #134228] |
Tue, 19 December 2006 09:46 |
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Originally posted by: James.D.Schwarzmeier.gmail.com
Agreed. Plus, I think if VE wants to get on the Eclipse 3.3/Europa
release train, they need to do so VERY soon. I think a good visual editor
(for both GUIs and web-based interfaces) is key to Eclipse to be used by
organizations without the expertise or resources to create user interfaces
by hand.
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| Re: VE 1.3 [message #614942 is a reply to message #134278] |
Wed, 20 December 2006 08:56 |
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"James Schwarzmeier" <James.D.Schwarzmeier@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ee77f459a19952ed6c7e573d1a0d26a$1@www.eclipse.org...
> Agreed. Plus, I think if VE wants to get on the Eclipse 3.3/Europa
> release train, they need to do so VERY soon.
Who would "they" be? ;-) Are you volunteering? The VE project is like any
other Eclipse project...more or less happens on it based on the amount of
time people have to work on it. The more people willing to contribute time
on the project, the more will get done. As it stands, the Eclipse VE
Swing/SWT GUI builder is a very nice tool and easily fulfills its goal of
being a exemplary example of what can be created with the VE project code
base.
> I think a good visual editor (for both GUIs and web-based interfaces) is
> key to Eclipse to be used by organizations without the expertise or
> resources to create user interfaces by hand.
FYI...a number of good visual editors are available for Eclipse in addition
to the VE:
Jigloo - SWT & Swing support, commercial, inexpensive, free NC usage
http://cloudgarden.com/jigloo/
JFormsDesigner - Swing support only, available for multiple IDEs, commercial
http://www.jformdesigner.com/
Matisse4MyEclipse - Swing support only, part of MyEclipse, commercial, very
inexpensive
http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.h tml
WindowBuilder Pro - SWT, Swing & GWT support (our product), commercial,
inexpensive academic and NC licenses
Winner of Eclipse Magazin's 2006 Reader's Choice Award for Best
Eclipse-based Commercial Software Solution.
http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
BTW, all of the above products are very well supported by their respective
vendors.
-Eric Clayberg
Sr. Vice President of Product Development
Instantiations, Inc.
http://www.instantiations.com
http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321228472
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| Re: VE 1.3 [message #614947 is a reply to message #134346] |
Wed, 20 December 2006 11:29 |
| Eclipse User |
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Originally posted by: James.D.Schwarzmeier.gmail.com
This is true. Although, often Eclipse member companies will have an
interest or stake in a particular project, and will contribute employee
time towards development. This may or may not be the case with VE; I
don't know.
It remains true, however, that if VE is to survive as an exemplary editor,
it does need to keep up with UI technologies. For instance, a number of
improvements have been made to the SWT for Eclipse 3.3. And it also
remains true that if VE wants to be a part of Europa, it needs to join
soon! I'm not trying to put down the talented contributors, just pointing
out a reality. :-)
And thanks for the tips on other VE-based products. That's very helpful!
Cheers,
-James
Eric Clayberg wrote:
> "James Schwarzmeier" <James.D.Schwarzmeier@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7ee77f459a19952ed6c7e573d1a0d26a$1@www.eclipse.org...
>> Agreed. Plus, I think if VE wants to get on the Eclipse 3.3/Europa
>> release train, they need to do so VERY soon.
> Who would "they" be? ;-) Are you volunteering? The VE project is like any
> other Eclipse project...more or less happens on it based on the amount of
> time people have to work on it. The more people willing to contribute time
> on the project, the more will get done. As it stands, the Eclipse VE
> Swing/SWT GUI builder is a very nice tool and easily fulfills its goal of
> being a exemplary example of what can be created with the VE project code
> base.
>> I think a good visual editor (for both GUIs and web-based interfaces) is
>> key to Eclipse to be used by organizations without the expertise or
>> resources to create user interfaces by hand.
> FYI...a number of good visual editors are available for Eclipse in addition
> to the VE:
> Jigloo - SWT & Swing support, commercial, inexpensive, free NC usage
> http://cloudgarden.com/jigloo/
> JFormsDesigner - Swing support only, available for multiple IDEs, commercial
> http://www.jformdesigner.com/
> Matisse4MyEclipse - Swing support only, part of MyEclipse, commercial, very
> inexpensive
> http://www.myeclipseide.com/ContentExpress-display-ceid-77.h tml
> WindowBuilder Pro - SWT, Swing & GWT support (our product), commercial,
> inexpensive academic and NC licenses
> Winner of Eclipse Magazin's 2006 Reader's Choice Award for Best
> Eclipse-based Commercial Software Solution.
> http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
> BTW, all of the above products are very well supported by their respective
> vendors.
> -Eric Clayberg
> Sr. Vice President of Product Development
> Instantiations, Inc.
> http://www.instantiations.com
> http://www.windowbuilderpro.com/
> Author: "Eclipse: Building Commercial Quality Plug-ins"
> http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0321228472
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