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[EMF Compare] How to start [message #133754] Sat, 28 February 2009 22:32 Go to next message
Oleg Vazhnev is currently offline Oleg VazhnevFriend
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Hi

I'm sorry for this simple question.
I didn't found anywhere in the web how to start
develop applications using EMF Compare.
Can someone suggest me a resource?
I need a kind of "EMF Compare user guide"

I checked out plugins as described here:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Setting_up_a_development_environment _for_EMF_Compare
but got some unresolved symbols, including:

org.eclipse.emf.ecore.*
org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Adapter;
org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Notifier;
org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.impl.AdapterFactoryImpl;

I'm using eclipse 3.4.1

I think that if i'm not going to develop
EMF Compare, but use it, I don't need this sources.
I need binaries and a kind of documentation, isn't it?
But I can't find neither binaries nor sufficient documentation.
Are EMF Compare binaries automatically included in EMF or
should I download them explicitly somewhere?

Thanks in advance,
Oleg
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #133766 is a reply to message #133754] Mon, 02 March 2009 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Oleg,

Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping patches
or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not retrieve any
of these in your workspace if you only intent on comparing models
without patching the comparison engines.

The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source code
points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare models
though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing EMF Compare.

You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your Eclipse
select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog open the tab
"Available Software". In this tab should be a section "Ganymede"; expand
it (this could take quite some time) and expand the category "Models and
Model Development". In this category, select both "EMF" and "EMF Compare
(Incubation)" then click on "Install..." and you're all set.

You can then compare models following the information on
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .

Cheers,

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Oleg Vazhnev a
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #133920 is a reply to message #133766] Mon, 09 March 2009 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oleg Vazhnev is currently offline Oleg VazhnevFriend
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Hi Laurent

Sorry for delayed response.
Thanks, your information is very helpful, probably it makes sense to put
it on wiki...
As far as I understood this approach works for Eclipse 3.4
Do you know if it is possible to install EMF compare in Eclipse 3.3?
I want to use EMF compare to make things in another project
http://www.eclipse.org/bpel which uses Eclipse 3.3.

Thanks,
Oleg


laurent Goubet wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
> Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping patches
> or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not retrieve any
> of these in your workspace if you only intent on comparing models
> without patching the comparison engines.
>
> The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source code
> points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare models
> though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing EMF Compare.
>
> You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your Eclipse
> select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog open the tab
> "Available Software". In this tab should be a section "Ganymede"; expand
> it (this could take quite some time) and expand the category "Models and
> Model Development". In this category, select both "EMF" and "EMF Compare
> (Incubation)" then click on "Install..." and you're all set.
>
> You can then compare models following the information on
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laurent Goubet
> Obeo
>
> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm sorry for this simple question.
>> I didn't found anywhere in the web how to start
>> develop applications using EMF Compare.
>> Can someone suggest me a resource?
>> I need a kind of "EMF Compare user guide"
>>
>> I checked out plugins as described here:
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Setting_up_a_development_environment _for_EMF_Compare
>>
>> but got some unresolved symbols, including:
>>
>> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.*
>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Adapter;
>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Notifier;
>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.impl.AdapterFactoryImpl;
>>
>> I'm using eclipse 3.4.1
>>
>> I think that if i'm not going to develop
>> EMF Compare, but use it, I don't need this sources.
>> I need binaries and a kind of documentation, isn't it?
>> But I can't find neither binaries nor sufficient documentation.
>> Are EMF Compare binaries automatically included in EMF or
>> should I download them explicitly somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Oleg
>
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #133932 is a reply to message #133920] Mon, 09 March 2009 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Oleg,

Indeed I assumed you were using Eclispe 3.4, though the approch is the
same on 3.3, only the UI changes :
Select Help => Software Updates => Check for updates.
On the new dialog, tick 'search for new features'.
On the next screen, either use the Europa update site to install EMF
Compare (should be in models and model development) or add the emft
interim update site :
http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/updates/interim/ .

If you wish for a more direct approach, you can either use one of the
archived update sites from
http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/downloads/ or download the zip you
want to install (SDK, runtime, 0.8 or 0.9, ...) and unzip it in your
eclipse directory.

There should be information about the update managers on the eclipse
wiki ... don't really know where though :).

Cheers,

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Oleg Vazhnev a
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #133998 is a reply to message #133932] Wed, 11 March 2009 23:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oleg Vazhnev is currently offline Oleg VazhnevFriend
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Hi Laurent

Thank you very much!
I just learned how to use my another project in Eclipse 3.4 :)
So I hope i can do everything in 3.4 now...
But this information is very useful, i think it would be nice
to have it published somewhere...

I've added .bpel to "EMF Compare" group in 'Content Types" and
I'm able to compare .bpel files now.
But i can't open .bpel files in general editor after that :)
I got this error trying to open file:

"Unsupported content type in editor. To associate file extensions
with a supported content type, please see Content Types Preference
Page" + very long stack trace

Probably this is known situation?
Probably I should configure something else?
Otherwise it could be bpel plugin problem, i can investigate it
myself then.

Thanks,
Oleg

laurent Goubet wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
> Indeed I assumed you were using Eclispe 3.4, though the approch is the
> same on 3.3, only the UI changes :
> Select Help => Software Updates => Check for updates.
> On the new dialog, tick 'search for new features'.
> On the next screen, either use the Europa update site to install EMF
> Compare (should be in models and model development) or add the emft
> interim update site :
> http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/updates/interim/ .
>
> If you wish for a more direct approach, you can either use one of the
> archived update sites from
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/downloads/ or download the zip you
> want to install (SDK, runtime, 0.8 or 0.9, ...) and unzip it in your
> eclipse directory.
>
> There should be information about the update managers on the eclipse
> wiki ... don't really know where though :).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laurent Goubet
> Obeo
>
> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>> Hi Laurent
>>
>> Sorry for delayed response.
>> Thanks, your information is very helpful, probably it makes sense to
>> put it on wiki...
>> As far as I understood this approach works for Eclipse 3.4
>> Do you know if it is possible to install EMF compare in Eclipse 3.3?
>> I want to use EMF compare to make things in another project
>> http://www.eclipse.org/bpel which uses Eclipse 3.3.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>> laurent Goubet wrote:
>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>
>>> Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping
>>> patches or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not
>>> retrieve any of these in your workspace if you only intent on
>>> comparing models without patching the comparison engines.
>>>
>>> The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source code
>>> points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare models
>>> though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing EMF Compare.
>>>
>>> You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your
>>> Eclipse select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog
>>> open the tab "Available Software". In this tab should be a section
>>> "Ganymede"; expand it (this could take quite some time) and expand
>>> the category "Models and Model Development". In this category, select
>>> both "EMF" and "EMF Compare (Incubation)" then click on "Install..."
>>> and you're all set.
>>>
>>> You can then compare models following the information on
>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Laurent Goubet
>>> Obeo
>>>
>>> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry for this simple question.
>>>> I didn't found anywhere in the web how to start
>>>> develop applications using EMF Compare.
>>>> Can someone suggest me a resource?
>>>> I need a kind of "EMF Compare user guide"
>>>>
>>>> I checked out plugins as described here:
>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Setting_up_a_development_environment _for_EMF_Compare
>>>>
>>>> but got some unresolved symbols, including:
>>>>
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.*
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Adapter;
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Notifier;
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.impl.AdapterFactoryImpl;
>>>>
>>>> I'm using eclipse 3.4.1
>>>>
>>>> I think that if i'm not going to develop
>>>> EMF Compare, but use it, I don't need this sources.
>>>> I need binaries and a kind of documentation, isn't it?
>>>> But I can't find neither binaries nor sufficient documentation.
>>>> Are EMF Compare binaries automatically included in EMF or
>>>> should I download them explicitly somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Oleg
>>>
>
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #134004 is a reply to message #133998] Thu, 12 March 2009 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Oleg,

Glad to see you've got through the installation issues :). As for the
"cannot open editor issue" ... nope, never observed that with EMF
Compare :(. Could you open a bug on the Eclipse bugzilla with the stack
trace attached so we can try and have a look at what exactly happens?

Regards,

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Oleg Vazhnev a
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #134006 is a reply to message #134004] Sat, 14 March 2009 22:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oleg Vazhnev is currently offline Oleg VazhnevFriend
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Hi Laurent

I've created https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=268650 with
stack trace attached.
It's nice that you have time to look at this problem, thanks.
It is not trivial to reproduce a bug - bpel plugin should be installed
before. Just in case instructions are here:
http://www.eclipse.org/bpel/install.php (but there are no update site
for 3.4 yet, so you have to checkout/compile it).

Thanks,
Oleg

laurent Goubet wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
> Glad to see you've got through the installation issues :). As for the
> "cannot open editor issue" ... nope, never observed that with EMF
> Compare :(. Could you open a bug on the Eclipse bugzilla with the stack
> trace attached so we can try and have a look at what exactly happens?
>
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Goubet
> Obeo
>
> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>> Hi Laurent
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>> I just learned how to use my another project in Eclipse 3.4 :)
>> So I hope i can do everything in 3.4 now...
>> But this information is very useful, i think it would be nice
>> to have it published somewhere...
>>
>> I've added .bpel to "EMF Compare" group in 'Content Types" and
>> I'm able to compare .bpel files now.
>> But i can't open .bpel files in general editor after that :)
>> I got this error trying to open file:
>>
>> "Unsupported content type in editor. To associate file extensions
>> with a supported content type, please see Content Types Preference
>> Page" + very long stack trace
>>
>> Probably this is known situation?
>> Probably I should configure something else?
>> Otherwise it could be bpel plugin problem, i can investigate it
>> myself then.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oleg
>>
>> laurent Goubet wrote:
>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>
>>> Indeed I assumed you were using Eclispe 3.4, though the approch is
>>> the same on 3.3, only the UI changes :
>>> Select Help => Software Updates => Check for updates.
>>> On the new dialog, tick 'search for new features'.
>>> On the next screen, either use the Europa update site to install EMF
>>> Compare (should be in models and model development) or add the emft
>>> interim update site :
>>> http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/updates/interim/ .
>>>
>>> If you wish for a more direct approach, you can either use one of the
>>> archived update sites from
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/downloads/ or download the zip
>>> you want to install (SDK, runtime, 0.8 or 0.9, ...) and unzip it in
>>> your eclipse directory.
>>>
>>> There should be information about the update managers on the eclipse
>>> wiki ... don't really know where though :).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Laurent Goubet
>>> Obeo
>>>
>>> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>>>> Hi Laurent
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for delayed response.
>>>> Thanks, your information is very helpful, probably it makes sense to
>>>> put it on wiki...
>>>> As far as I understood this approach works for Eclipse 3.4
>>>> Do you know if it is possible to install EMF compare in Eclipse 3.3?
>>>> I want to use EMF compare to make things in another project
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/bpel which uses Eclipse 3.3.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Oleg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> laurent Goubet wrote:
>>>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping
>>>>> patches or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not
>>>>> retrieve any of these in your workspace if you only intent on
>>>>> comparing models without patching the comparison engines.
>>>>>
>>>>> The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source
>>>>> code points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare
>>>>> models though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing
>>>>> EMF Compare.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your
>>>>> Eclipse select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog
>>>>> open the tab "Available Software". In this tab should be a section
>>>>> "Ganymede"; expand it (this could take quite some time) and expand
>>>>> the category "Models and Model Development". In this category,
>>>>> select both "EMF" and "EMF Compare (Incubation)" then click on
>>>>> "Install..." and you're all set.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can then compare models following the information on
>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurent Goubet
>>>>> Obeo
>>>>>
>>>>> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry for this simple question.
>>>>>> I didn't found anywhere in the web how to start
>>>>>> develop applications using EMF Compare.
>>>>>> Can someone suggest me a resource?
>>>>>> I need a kind of "EMF Compare user guide"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked out plugins as described here:
>>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Setting_up_a_development_environment _for_EMF_Compare
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but got some unresolved symbols, including:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.*
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Adapter;
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Notifier;
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.impl.AdapterFactoryImpl;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using eclipse 3.4.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that if i'm not going to develop
>>>>>> EMF Compare, but use it, I don't need this sources.
>>>>>> I need binaries and a kind of documentation, isn't it?
>>>>>> But I can't find neither binaries nor sufficient documentation.
>>>>>> Are EMF Compare binaries automatically included in EMF or
>>>>>> should I download them explicitly somewhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Oleg
>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #134009 is a reply to message #134006] Sun, 15 March 2009 10:53 Go to previous message
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Hi Oleg,

Thanks, I'll try and have a look into this. Looking at the stack trace I
believe the actual issue lies into the BPEL plugin. I'll look into this
from my end and cc them to the bug to see if they have already
encoutered this.

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Oleg Vazhnev a
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #620699 is a reply to message #133754] Mon, 02 March 2009 08:07 Go to previous message
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Hi Oleg,

Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping patches
or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not retrieve any
of these in your workspace if you only intent on comparing models
without patching the comparison engines.

The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source code
points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare models
though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing EMF Compare.

You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your Eclipse
select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog open the tab
"Available Software". In this tab should be a section "Ganymede"; expand
it (this could take quite some time) and expand the category "Models and
Model Development". In this category, select both "EMF" and "EMF Compare
(Incubation)" then click on "Install..." and you're all set.

You can then compare models following the information on
http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .

Cheers,

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Oleg Vazhnev a
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #620711 is a reply to message #133766] Mon, 09 March 2009 10:27 Go to previous message
Oleg Vazhnev is currently offline Oleg VazhnevFriend
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Hi Laurent

Sorry for delayed response.
Thanks, your information is very helpful, probably it makes sense to put
it on wiki...
As far as I understood this approach works for Eclipse 3.4
Do you know if it is possible to install EMF compare in Eclipse 3.3?
I want to use EMF compare to make things in another project
http://www.eclipse.org/bpel which uses Eclipse 3.3.

Thanks,
Oleg


laurent Goubet wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
> Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping patches
> or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not retrieve any
> of these in your workspace if you only intent on comparing models
> without patching the comparison engines.
>
> The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source code
> points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare models
> though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing EMF Compare.
>
> You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your Eclipse
> select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog open the tab
> "Available Software". In this tab should be a section "Ganymede"; expand
> it (this could take quite some time) and expand the category "Models and
> Model Development". In this category, select both "EMF" and "EMF Compare
> (Incubation)" then click on "Install..." and you're all set.
>
> You can then compare models following the information on
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laurent Goubet
> Obeo
>
> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>> Hi
>>
>> I'm sorry for this simple question.
>> I didn't found anywhere in the web how to start
>> develop applications using EMF Compare.
>> Can someone suggest me a resource?
>> I need a kind of "EMF Compare user guide"
>>
>> I checked out plugins as described here:
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Setting_up_a_development_environment _for_EMF_Compare
>>
>> but got some unresolved symbols, including:
>>
>> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.*
>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Adapter;
>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Notifier;
>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.impl.AdapterFactoryImpl;
>>
>> I'm using eclipse 3.4.1
>>
>> I think that if i'm not going to develop
>> EMF Compare, but use it, I don't need this sources.
>> I need binaries and a kind of documentation, isn't it?
>> But I can't find neither binaries nor sufficient documentation.
>> Are EMF Compare binaries automatically included in EMF or
>> should I download them explicitly somewhere?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Oleg
>
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #620712 is a reply to message #133920] Mon, 09 March 2009 13:07 Go to previous message
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Hi Oleg,

Indeed I assumed you were using Eclispe 3.4, though the approch is the
same on 3.3, only the UI changes :
Select Help => Software Updates => Check for updates.
On the new dialog, tick 'search for new features'.
On the next screen, either use the Europa update site to install EMF
Compare (should be in models and model development) or add the emft
interim update site :
http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/updates/interim/ .

If you wish for a more direct approach, you can either use one of the
archived update sites from
http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/downloads/ or download the zip you
want to install (SDK, runtime, 0.8 or 0.9, ...) and unzip it in your
eclipse directory.

There should be information about the update managers on the eclipse
wiki ... don't really know where though :).

Cheers,

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Oleg Vazhnev a
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #620721 is a reply to message #133932] Wed, 11 March 2009 23:11 Go to previous message
Oleg Vazhnev is currently offline Oleg VazhnevFriend
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Hi Laurent

Thank you very much!
I just learned how to use my another project in Eclipse 3.4 :)
So I hope i can do everything in 3.4 now...
But this information is very useful, i think it would be nice
to have it published somewhere...

I've added .bpel to "EMF Compare" group in 'Content Types" and
I'm able to compare .bpel files now.
But i can't open .bpel files in general editor after that :)
I got this error trying to open file:

"Unsupported content type in editor. To associate file extensions
with a supported content type, please see Content Types Preference
Page" + very long stack trace

Probably this is known situation?
Probably I should configure something else?
Otherwise it could be bpel plugin problem, i can investigate it
myself then.

Thanks,
Oleg

laurent Goubet wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
> Indeed I assumed you were using Eclispe 3.4, though the approch is the
> same on 3.3, only the UI changes :
> Select Help => Software Updates => Check for updates.
> On the new dialog, tick 'search for new features'.
> On the next screen, either use the Europa update site to install EMF
> Compare (should be in models and model development) or add the emft
> interim update site :
> http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/updates/interim/ .
>
> If you wish for a more direct approach, you can either use one of the
> archived update sites from
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/downloads/ or download the zip you
> want to install (SDK, runtime, 0.8 or 0.9, ...) and unzip it in your
> eclipse directory.
>
> There should be information about the update managers on the eclipse
> wiki ... don't really know where though :).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Laurent Goubet
> Obeo
>
> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>> Hi Laurent
>>
>> Sorry for delayed response.
>> Thanks, your information is very helpful, probably it makes sense to
>> put it on wiki...
>> As far as I understood this approach works for Eclipse 3.4
>> Do you know if it is possible to install EMF compare in Eclipse 3.3?
>> I want to use EMF compare to make things in another project
>> http://www.eclipse.org/bpel which uses Eclipse 3.3.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oleg
>>
>>
>> laurent Goubet wrote:
>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>
>>> Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping
>>> patches or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not
>>> retrieve any of these in your workspace if you only intent on
>>> comparing models without patching the comparison engines.
>>>
>>> The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source code
>>> points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare models
>>> though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing EMF Compare.
>>>
>>> You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your
>>> Eclipse select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog
>>> open the tab "Available Software". In this tab should be a section
>>> "Ganymede"; expand it (this could take quite some time) and expand
>>> the category "Models and Model Development". In this category, select
>>> both "EMF" and "EMF Compare (Incubation)" then click on "Install..."
>>> and you're all set.
>>>
>>> You can then compare models following the information on
>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Laurent Goubet
>>> Obeo
>>>
>>> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry for this simple question.
>>>> I didn't found anywhere in the web how to start
>>>> develop applications using EMF Compare.
>>>> Can someone suggest me a resource?
>>>> I need a kind of "EMF Compare user guide"
>>>>
>>>> I checked out plugins as described here:
>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Setting_up_a_development_environment _for_EMF_Compare
>>>>
>>>> but got some unresolved symbols, including:
>>>>
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.*
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Adapter;
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Notifier;
>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.impl.AdapterFactoryImpl;
>>>>
>>>> I'm using eclipse 3.4.1
>>>>
>>>> I think that if i'm not going to develop
>>>> EMF Compare, but use it, I don't need this sources.
>>>> I need binaries and a kind of documentation, isn't it?
>>>> But I can't find neither binaries nor sufficient documentation.
>>>> Are EMF Compare binaries automatically included in EMF or
>>>> should I download them explicitly somewhere?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Oleg
>>>
>
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #620722 is a reply to message #133998] Thu, 12 March 2009 08:45 Go to previous message
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Hi Oleg,

Glad to see you've got through the installation issues :). As for the
"cannot open editor issue" ... nope, never observed that with EMF
Compare :(. Could you open a bug on the Eclipse bugzilla with the stack
trace attached so we can try and have a look at what exactly happens?

Regards,

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

Oleg Vazhnev a
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #620723 is a reply to message #134004] Sat, 14 March 2009 22:20 Go to previous message
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Hi Laurent

I've created https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=268650 with
stack trace attached.
It's nice that you have time to look at this problem, thanks.
It is not trivial to reproduce a bug - bpel plugin should be installed
before. Just in case instructions are here:
http://www.eclipse.org/bpel/install.php (but there are no update site
for 3.4 yet, so you have to checkout/compile it).

Thanks,
Oleg

laurent Goubet wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
> Glad to see you've got through the installation issues :). As for the
> "cannot open editor issue" ... nope, never observed that with EMF
> Compare :(. Could you open a bug on the Eclipse bugzilla with the stack
> trace attached so we can try and have a look at what exactly happens?
>
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Goubet
> Obeo
>
> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>> Hi Laurent
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>> I just learned how to use my another project in Eclipse 3.4 :)
>> So I hope i can do everything in 3.4 now...
>> But this information is very useful, i think it would be nice
>> to have it published somewhere...
>>
>> I've added .bpel to "EMF Compare" group in 'Content Types" and
>> I'm able to compare .bpel files now.
>> But i can't open .bpel files in general editor after that :)
>> I got this error trying to open file:
>>
>> "Unsupported content type in editor. To associate file extensions
>> with a supported content type, please see Content Types Preference
>> Page" + very long stack trace
>>
>> Probably this is known situation?
>> Probably I should configure something else?
>> Otherwise it could be bpel plugin problem, i can investigate it
>> myself then.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oleg
>>
>> laurent Goubet wrote:
>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>
>>> Indeed I assumed you were using Eclispe 3.4, though the approch is
>>> the same on 3.3, only the UI changes :
>>> Select Help => Software Updates => Check for updates.
>>> On the new dialog, tick 'search for new features'.
>>> On the next screen, either use the Europa update site to install EMF
>>> Compare (should be in models and model development) or add the emft
>>> interim update site :
>>> http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/updates/interim/ .
>>>
>>> If you wish for a more direct approach, you can either use one of the
>>> archived update sites from
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/downloads/ or download the zip
>>> you want to install (SDK, runtime, 0.8 or 0.9, ...) and unzip it in
>>> your eclipse directory.
>>>
>>> There should be information about the update managers on the eclipse
>>> wiki ... don't really know where though :).
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Laurent Goubet
>>> Obeo
>>>
>>> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>>>> Hi Laurent
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for delayed response.
>>>> Thanks, your information is very helpful, probably it makes sense to
>>>> put it on wiki...
>>>> As far as I understood this approach works for Eclipse 3.4
>>>> Do you know if it is possible to install EMF compare in Eclipse 3.3?
>>>> I want to use EMF compare to make things in another project
>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/bpel which uses Eclipse 3.3.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Oleg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> laurent Goubet wrote:
>>>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed that wiki page you're pointing to is only for developping
>>>>> patches or applications needing EMF Compare sources. You need not
>>>>> retrieve any of these in your workspace if you only intent on
>>>>> comparing models without patching the comparison engines.
>>>>>
>>>>> The unresolved dependencies you had when downloading the source
>>>>> code points us to a possible answer as to why you cannot compare
>>>>> models though. You have to have installed EMF prior to installing
>>>>> EMF Compare.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can use the Ganymede update site for both of these : in your
>>>>> Eclipse select help => Software Updates. In the newly opened dialog
>>>>> open the tab "Available Software". In this tab should be a section
>>>>> "Ganymede"; expand it (this could take quite some time) and expand
>>>>> the category "Models and Model Development". In this category,
>>>>> select both "EMF" and "EMF Compare (Incubation)" then click on
>>>>> "Install..." and you're all set.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can then compare models following the information on
>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Installing_and_Using_EMF_Compare .
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurent Goubet
>>>>> Obeo
>>>>>
>>>>> Oleg Vazhnev a écrit :
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry for this simple question.
>>>>>> I didn't found anywhere in the web how to start
>>>>>> develop applications using EMF Compare.
>>>>>> Can someone suggest me a resource?
>>>>>> I need a kind of "EMF Compare user guide"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I checked out plugins as described here:
>>>>>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Setting_up_a_development_environment _for_EMF_Compare
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but got some unresolved symbols, including:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.*
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Adapter;
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.Notifier;
>>>>>> org.eclipse.emf.common.notify.impl.AdapterFactoryImpl;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using eclipse 3.4.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that if i'm not going to develop
>>>>>> EMF Compare, but use it, I don't need this sources.
>>>>>> I need binaries and a kind of documentation, isn't it?
>>>>>> But I can't find neither binaries nor sufficient documentation.
>>>>>> Are EMF Compare binaries automatically included in EMF or
>>>>>> should I download them explicitly somewhere?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>> Oleg
>>>>>
>>>
>
Re: [EMF Compare] How to start [message #620724 is a reply to message #134006] Sun, 15 March 2009 10:53 Go to previous message
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Hi Oleg,

Thanks, I'll try and have a look into this. Looking at the stack trace I
believe the actual issue lies into the BPEL plugin. I'll look into this
from my end and cc them to the bug to see if they have already
encoutered this.

Laurent Goubet
Obeo

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