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no VE options in Eclipse3.2 [message #112600] Wed, 07 December 2005 22:24 Go to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

I upgraded to all VE plug-ins.
Restarted Eclipse3.2, recreated project.
No Visual Class in New (either from File or in righ-clicking)

What has changed?

Guennadi Vanine
Re: no VE options in Eclipse3.2 [message #112616 is a reply to message #112600] Wed, 07 December 2005 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Myers is currently offline Jeff MyersFriend
Messages: 489
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
The VE 1.2 Integration builds are compatible with Eclips 3.2. Are you
using that?

- Jeff

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> I upgraded to all VE plug-ins.
> Restarted Eclipse3.2, recreated project.
> No Visual Class in New (either from File or in righ-clicking)
>
> What has changed?
>
> Guennadi Vanine
>
>
Update Manager fails to get 1.2 [message #112676 is a reply to message #112616] Thu, 08 December 2005 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Hi, Jeff,
thanks, for yr note. It helped

I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK 1.2
(by Update Manager)

At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
[Portugal] INESC Porto
for recent updates.

I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
that also doesn't function

So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.


Now I bewildered:
my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time after
another. What is it?

Why is it?
Guennadi

"Jeff Myers" <jeff.myers@eclipse.org> wrote in message
news:dn7rvb$sos$1@news.eclipse.org...
> The VE 1.2 Integration builds are compatible with Eclips 3.2. Are you
> using that?
>
> - Jeff
>
> Guennadi Vanine wrote:
Eclipse3.2 is out of sync after manual update to VE 1.2 [message #112694 is a reply to message #112676] Thu, 08 December 2005 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Aah, I have forgotten to mention that manually I downloaded 1.2 , guess from
where, again from [Portugal] INESC Porto

But why Update Manager doesn't catch up?

This is strange because at my office PC I did have it by Update Manager at
once

So, I downloaded and copied manually VE 1.2 plugins but still no options of
VE in Eclipse3.2!

Guennadi

"Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
news:dn9b26$m99$1@news.eclipse.org...
> Hi, Jeff,
> thanks, for yr note. It helped
>
> I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK 1.2
> (by Update Manager)
>
> At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
> [Portugal] INESC Porto
> for recent updates.
>
> I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
> 1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
> that also doesn't function
>
> So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.
>
>
> Now I bewildered:
> my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time after
> another. What is it?
>
> Why is it?
> Guennadi
Re: Eclipse3.2 is out of sync after manual update to VE 1.2 [message #112707 is a reply to message #112694] Thu, 08 December 2005 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Myers is currently offline Jeff MyersFriend
Messages: 489
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
VE 1.2 is a development driver (and so is Eclipse 3.2), thus updates for
it are not available through the Update Manager. All development
drivers need to be installed manually.

The best thing to do at this point would be to go to
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/ve/downloads/drops/I-I2005 1205-200512051736/index.html
Download the versions of Eclipse, EMF, GEF and the VE Runtime listed on
that page. Unzip Eclipse, then EMF, GEF, and VE, then run that version
of Eclipse. That'll be Eclipse 3.2 running VE.

Note that you'll be using a development version of Eclipse and VE, so it
won't be as stable as running a release version.

Hope this helps,
- Jeff

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> Aah, I have forgotten to mention that manually I downloaded 1.2 , guess from
> where, again from [Portugal] INESC Porto
>
> But why Update Manager doesn't catch up?
>
> This is strange because at my office PC I did have it by Update Manager at
> once
>
> So, I downloaded and copied manually VE 1.2 plugins but still no options of
> VE in Eclipse3.2!
>
> Guennadi
>
> "Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
> news:dn9b26$m99$1@news.eclipse.org...
>
>>Hi, Jeff,
>>thanks, for yr note. It helped
>>
>>I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK 1.2
>>(by Update Manager)
>>
>>At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
>>[Portugal] INESC Porto
>>for recent updates.
>>
>>I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
>>1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
>>that also doesn't function
>>
>>So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.
>>
>>
>>Now I bewildered:
>>my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time after
>>another. What is it?
>>
>>Why is it?
>>Guennadi
>
>
>
>
>
weird is Eclipse's name [message #112721 is a reply to message #112707] Thu, 08 December 2005 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Jeff,
I copied all that already manually

Eclipse did not catch up (VE options did not appear).

Your msg doesn't explain also why I have got VE 1.2 from the first update by
Update Manager.

Now, I made it work after all those failures after I deleted:
1)<ECLIPSE_HOME>\configuration
1a) restored config.ini from eclipse-SDK-3.2M3-win32.zip
2) myWrorkSpceDir320\.metadata\*.*

Deleting just configuration did not help

This link helped me:
http://www.xlml.com/aehso/category/eclipse

Thanks for yor help,
Guennadi


"Jeff Myers" <jeff.myers@eclipse.org> wrote in message
news:dn9euv$s0k$1@news.eclipse.org...
> VE 1.2 is a development driver (and so is Eclipse 3.2), thus updates for
> it are not available through the Update Manager. All development
> drivers need to be installed manually.
>
> The best thing to do at this point would be to go to
>
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/ve/downloads/drops/I-I2005 1205-200512051736/index.html
> Download the versions of Eclipse, EMF, GEF and the VE Runtime listed on
> that page. Unzip Eclipse, then EMF, GEF, and VE, then run that version
> of Eclipse. That'll be Eclipse 3.2 running VE.
>
> Note that you'll be using a development version of Eclipse and VE, so it
> won't be as stable as running a release version.
>
> Hope this helps,
> - Jeff
>
> Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> > Aah, I have forgotten to mention that manually I downloaded 1.2 , guess
from
> > where, again from [Portugal] INESC Porto
> >
> > But why Update Manager doesn't catch up?
> >
> > This is strange because at my office PC I did have it by Update Manager
at
> > once
> >
> > So, I downloaded and copied manually VE 1.2 plugins but still no options
of
> > VE in Eclipse3.2!
> >
> > Guennadi
> >
> > "Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
> > news:dn9b26$m99$1@news.eclipse.org...
> >
> >>Hi, Jeff,
> >>thanks, for yr note. It helped
> >>
> >>I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK
1.2
> >>(by Update Manager)
> >>
> >>At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
> >>[Portugal] INESC Porto
> >>for recent updates.
> >>
> >>I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
> >>1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
> >>that also doesn't function
> >>
> >>So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.
> >>
> >>
> >>Now I bewildered:
> >>my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time
after
> >>another. What is it?
> >>
> >>Why is it?
> >>Guennadi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
UpdteMgr gets only releases? [message #112734 is a reply to message #112721] Thu, 08 December 2005 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

If Update Manager picks up only releases, then how to understand that Update
Manager picks up upgrades and installations to GMF (Graphical Modeling
Framework) of plug-ins.

While GMF can be installed only on Eclipse3.2, i.e. on Eclipse milestone
As I understood GMF did not have any releases and just recently emitted
first official milestone.

Just curious and anxious to avoid burning my time,
Guennadi Vanine
Re: UpdteMgr gets only releases? [message #112747 is a reply to message #112734] Thu, 08 December 2005 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Myers is currently offline Jeff MyersFriend
Messages: 489
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
The decision to post development drivers on the update manager is made
on a team by team basis. VE and GEF don't post development drivers, GMF
and EMF do.

- Jeff

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> If Update Manager picks up only releases, then how to understand that Update
> Manager picks up upgrades and installations to GMF (Graphical Modeling
> Framework) of plug-ins.
>
> While GMF can be installed only on Eclipse3.2, i.e. on Eclipse milestone
> As I understood GMF did not have any releases and just recently emitted
> first official milestone.
>
> Just curious and anxious to avoid burning my time,
> Guennadi Vanine
>
>
>
so, my conclusion is to stick with releases [message #112773 is a reply to message #112747] Thu, 08 December 2005 19:07 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Jeff,
thanks a lot. I really needed to know this about all those
mentioned by u (GEF, EMF, GMF, VE) badly and yesterday .
Now it doesn't seem to me sosupranatural.

Since I have got in my office PC VE 1.2 (working without any trouble and
without any manual downloading of VE drivers in Eclipse3.2 and by, how I was
thinking, Upload Manager), I guess that I have somehow got VE 1.2 (dev)
drivers to Eclipse3.2 there with GMF (or EMF) downloads?

While at home PC I didn't get GMF and bumped into trouble with VE (something
contra-intuitive to and haunting me)

Guennadi


"Jeff Myers" <jeff.myers@eclipse.org> wrote in message
> The decision to post development drivers on the update manager is made
> on a team by team basis. VE and GEF don't post development drivers, GMF
> and EMF do.
>
> - Jeff
Re: no VE options in Eclipse3.2 [message #611497 is a reply to message #112600] Wed, 07 December 2005 23:41 Go to previous message
Jeff Myers is currently offline Jeff MyersFriend
Messages: 489
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
The VE 1.2 Integration builds are compatible with Eclips 3.2. Are you
using that?

- Jeff

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> I upgraded to all VE plug-ins.
> Restarted Eclipse3.2, recreated project.
> No Visual Class in New (either from File or in righ-clicking)
>
> What has changed?
>
> Guennadi Vanine
>
>
Update Manager fails to get 1.2 [message #611506 is a reply to message #112616] Thu, 08 December 2005 13:05 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Hi, Jeff,
thanks, for yr note. It helped

I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK 1.2
(by Update Manager)

At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
[Portugal] INESC Porto
for recent updates.

I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
that also doesn't function

So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.


Now I bewildered:
my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time after
another. What is it?

Why is it?
Guennadi

"Jeff Myers" <jeff.myers@eclipse.org> wrote in message
news:dn7rvb$sos$1@news.eclipse.org...
> The VE 1.2 Integration builds are compatible with Eclips 3.2. Are you
> using that?
>
> - Jeff
>
> Guennadi Vanine wrote:
Eclipse3.2 is out of sync after manual update to VE 1.2 [message #611507 is a reply to message #112676] Thu, 08 December 2005 13:28 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Aah, I have forgotten to mention that manually I downloaded 1.2 , guess from
where, again from [Portugal] INESC Porto

But why Update Manager doesn't catch up?

This is strange because at my office PC I did have it by Update Manager at
once

So, I downloaded and copied manually VE 1.2 plugins but still no options of
VE in Eclipse3.2!

Guennadi

"Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
news:dn9b26$m99$1@news.eclipse.org...
> Hi, Jeff,
> thanks, for yr note. It helped
>
> I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK 1.2
> (by Update Manager)
>
> At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
> [Portugal] INESC Porto
> for recent updates.
>
> I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
> 1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
> that also doesn't function
>
> So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.
>
>
> Now I bewildered:
> my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time after
> another. What is it?
>
> Why is it?
> Guennadi
Re: Eclipse3.2 is out of sync after manual update to VE 1.2 [message #611508 is a reply to message #112694] Thu, 08 December 2005 14:11 Go to previous message
Jeff Myers is currently offline Jeff MyersFriend
Messages: 489
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
VE 1.2 is a development driver (and so is Eclipse 3.2), thus updates for
it are not available through the Update Manager. All development
drivers need to be installed manually.

The best thing to do at this point would be to go to
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/ve/downloads/drops/I-I2005 1205-200512051736/index.html
Download the versions of Eclipse, EMF, GEF and the VE Runtime listed on
that page. Unzip Eclipse, then EMF, GEF, and VE, then run that version
of Eclipse. That'll be Eclipse 3.2 running VE.

Note that you'll be using a development version of Eclipse and VE, so it
won't be as stable as running a release version.

Hope this helps,
- Jeff

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> Aah, I have forgotten to mention that manually I downloaded 1.2 , guess from
> where, again from [Portugal] INESC Porto
>
> But why Update Manager doesn't catch up?
>
> This is strange because at my office PC I did have it by Update Manager at
> once
>
> So, I downloaded and copied manually VE 1.2 plugins but still no options of
> VE in Eclipse3.2!
>
> Guennadi
>
> "Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
> news:dn9b26$m99$1@news.eclipse.org...
>
>>Hi, Jeff,
>>thanks, for yr note. It helped
>>
>>I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK 1.2
>>(by Update Manager)
>>
>>At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
>>[Portugal] INESC Porto
>>for recent updates.
>>
>>I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
>>1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
>>that also doesn't function
>>
>>So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.
>>
>>
>>Now I bewildered:
>>my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time after
>>another. What is it?
>>
>>Why is it?
>>Guennadi
>
>
>
>
>
weird is Eclipse's name [message #611509 is a reply to message #112707] Thu, 08 December 2005 14:26 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Jeff,
I copied all that already manually

Eclipse did not catch up (VE options did not appear).

Your msg doesn't explain also why I have got VE 1.2 from the first update by
Update Manager.

Now, I made it work after all those failures after I deleted:
1)<ECLIPSE_HOME>\configuration
1a) restored config.ini from eclipse-SDK-3.2M3-win32.zip
2) myWrorkSpceDir320\.metadata\*.*

Deleting just configuration did not help

This link helped me:
http://www.xlml.com/aehso/category/eclipse

Thanks for yor help,
Guennadi


"Jeff Myers" <jeff.myers@eclipse.org> wrote in message
news:dn9euv$s0k$1@news.eclipse.org...
> VE 1.2 is a development driver (and so is Eclipse 3.2), thus updates for
> it are not available through the Update Manager. All development
> drivers need to be installed manually.
>
> The best thing to do at this point would be to go to
>
http://download.eclipse.org/tools/ve/downloads/drops/I-I2005 1205-200512051736/index.html
> Download the versions of Eclipse, EMF, GEF and the VE Runtime listed on
> that page. Unzip Eclipse, then EMF, GEF, and VE, then run that version
> of Eclipse. That'll be Eclipse 3.2 running VE.
>
> Note that you'll be using a development version of Eclipse and VE, so it
> won't be as stable as running a release version.
>
> Hope this helps,
> - Jeff
>
> Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> > Aah, I have forgotten to mention that manually I downloaded 1.2 , guess
from
> > where, again from [Portugal] INESC Porto
> >
> > But why Update Manager doesn't catch up?
> >
> > This is strange because at my office PC I did have it by Update Manager
at
> > once
> >
> > So, I downloaded and copied manually VE 1.2 plugins but still no options
of
> > VE in Eclipse3.2!
> >
> > Guennadi
> >
> > "Guennadi Vanine" <vgv8@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message
> > news:dn9b26$m99$1@news.eclipse.org...
> >
> >>Hi, Jeff,
> >>thanks, for yr note. It helped
> >>
> >>I checked, all VE plug-ins are 1.1.0. At home PC, in office I have OK
1.2
> >>(by Update Manager)
> >>
> >>At home PC I always picks up Mirror site from the prompts:
> >>[Portugal] INESC Porto
> >>for recent updates.
> >>
> >>I rerun picking up first lines from prompts. I had got new update VE
> >>1.1.0.1 (instead of 1.1.0 by yesterday's update)
> >>that also doesn't function
> >>
> >>So, I went to eclipse.org/wep downloads, got and copied VE 1.2 manually.
> >>
> >>
> >>Now I bewildered:
> >>my office PC Update Manager catches 1.2 and at home I fail one time
after
> >>another. What is it?
> >>
> >>Why is it?
> >>Guennadi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
UpdteMgr gets only releases? [message #611510 is a reply to message #112721] Thu, 08 December 2005 15:07 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

If Update Manager picks up only releases, then how to understand that Update
Manager picks up upgrades and installations to GMF (Graphical Modeling
Framework) of plug-ins.

While GMF can be installed only on Eclipse3.2, i.e. on Eclipse milestone
As I understood GMF did not have any releases and just recently emitted
first official milestone.

Just curious and anxious to avoid burning my time,
Guennadi Vanine
Re: UpdteMgr gets only releases? [message #611511 is a reply to message #112734] Thu, 08 December 2005 16:27 Go to previous message
Jeff Myers is currently offline Jeff MyersFriend
Messages: 489
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
The decision to post development drivers on the update manager is made
on a team by team basis. VE and GEF don't post development drivers, GMF
and EMF do.

- Jeff

Guennadi Vanine wrote:
> If Update Manager picks up only releases, then how to understand that Update
> Manager picks up upgrades and installations to GMF (Graphical Modeling
> Framework) of plug-ins.
>
> While GMF can be installed only on Eclipse3.2, i.e. on Eclipse milestone
> As I understood GMF did not have any releases and just recently emitted
> first official milestone.
>
> Just curious and anxious to avoid burning my time,
> Guennadi Vanine
>
>
>
so, my conclusion is to stick with releases [message #611513 is a reply to message #112747] Thu, 08 December 2005 19:07 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: vgv8.yahoo.com.br

Jeff,
thanks a lot. I really needed to know this about all those
mentioned by u (GEF, EMF, GMF, VE) badly and yesterday .
Now it doesn't seem to me sosupranatural.

Since I have got in my office PC VE 1.2 (working without any trouble and
without any manual downloading of VE drivers in Eclipse3.2 and by, how I was
thinking, Upload Manager), I guess that I have somehow got VE 1.2 (dev)
drivers to Eclipse3.2 there with GMF (or EMF) downloads?

While at home PC I didn't get GMF and bumped into trouble with VE (something
contra-intuitive to and haunting me)

Guennadi


"Jeff Myers" <jeff.myers@eclipse.org> wrote in message
> The decision to post development drivers on the update manager is made
> on a team by team basis. VE and GEF don't post development drivers, GMF
> and EMF do.
>
> - Jeff
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