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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #107913] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 15:27  |
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com
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Thomas,
EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project supports
Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
<http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
subject line with [Teneo]:
<news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many folks
have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is very
responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn up.
It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some prototype work
with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at EclipseCon and
will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show how easy it is
integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based applications...
Thomas wrote:
> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very promising
> to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements regarding JPA
> integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans generated with
> HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches its limits. WOuld
> be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I heard about teneo,
> butit looks not ready for production to me. Can you give me any hints
> on that ?
>
> Regards Thomas
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #107935 is a reply to message #107913] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 15:55  |
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Originally posted by: tom.eiswind.de
HI Ed,
thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is that
the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about changing
the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is worth a
try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will believe
you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a prototype. Can
you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the elver site
doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools around for
model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple questions, even after
25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
Regards Thomas
Ed Merks schrieb:
> Thomas,
>
> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project supports
> Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>
> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
> subject line with [Teneo]:
> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>
> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>
> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>
> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many folks
> have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is very
> responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn up.
> It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some prototype work
> with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at EclipseCon and
> will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show how easy it is
> integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based applications...
>
>
> Thomas wrote:
>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very promising
>> to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements regarding JPA
>> integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans generated with
>> HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches its limits. WOuld
>> be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I heard about teneo,
>> butit looks not ready for production to me. Can you give me any hints
>> on that ?
>>
>> Regards Thomas
>
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #107949 is a reply to message #107935] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 16:04 |
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com
Thomas,
You'll find that in general, documentation is the worst aspect of the
modeling projects. Lots of cool things but we don't like to write
documentation so much (nor do we have much time for it). You can
basically reuse all the normal EMF technology when using Teneo. For
Teneo, i's mostly just the resource stuff you need to fiddle with so
it's pretty simple. The EMFT project has a very nice graphical Ecore
editor now too, so I'd suggest playing with that too. Of course once
you have a model, you could even generate a graphical editor for it, so
the sky's the limit.
Thomas wrote:
> HI Ed,
>
> thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is
> that the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about
> changing the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is
> worth a try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will
> believe you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a
> prototype. Can you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the
> elver site doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools
> around for model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple
> questions, even after 25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
>
> Regards Thomas
>
> Ed Merks schrieb:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project
>> supports Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
>> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>>
>> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
>> subject line with [Teneo]:
>> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>>
>> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>>
>> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>>
>> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many
>> folks have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is
>> very responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn
>> up. It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some
>> prototype work with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at
>> EclipseCon and will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show
>> how easy it is integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based
>> applications...
>>
>>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very
>>> promising to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements
>>> regarding JPA integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans
>>> generated with HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches
>>> its limits. WOuld be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I
>>> heard about teneo, butit looks not ready for production to me. Can
>>> you give me any hints on that ?
>>>
>>> Regards Thomas
>>
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #107963 is a reply to message #107949] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 16:25 |
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Originally posted by: tom.eiswind.de
Hi Ed,
yes I had a look at the ecore editor some minutes ago :) Have to find
out where to find a matching version as Im (mostly) on stable 3.3. for
development. Ill have a look at this, I guess I take tomorrow for an
exploration. Thanks for your hints so far.
Thomas
Ed Merks schrieb:
> Thomas,
>
> You'll find that in general, documentation is the worst aspect of the
> modeling projects. Lots of cool things but we don't like to write
> documentation so much (nor do we have much time for it). You can
> basically reuse all the normal EMF technology when using Teneo. For
> Teneo, i's mostly just the resource stuff you need to fiddle with so
> it's pretty simple. The EMFT project has a very nice graphical Ecore
> editor now too, so I'd suggest playing with that too. Of course once
> you have a model, you could even generate a graphical editor for it, so
> the sky's the limit.
>
>
> Thomas wrote:
>> HI Ed,
>>
>> thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is
>> that the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about
>> changing the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is
>> worth a try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will
>> believe you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a
>> prototype. Can you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the
>> elver site doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools
>> around for model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple
>> questions, even after 25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
>>
>> Regards Thomas
>>
>> Ed Merks schrieb:
>>> Thomas,
>>>
>>> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project
>>> supports Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
>>> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>>>
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>>>
>>> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
>>> subject line with [Teneo]:
>>> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>>>
>>> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>>>
>>> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>>>
>>> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many
>>> folks have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is
>>> very responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn
>>> up. It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some
>>> prototype work with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at
>>> EclipseCon and will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show
>>> how easy it is integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based
>>> applications...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very
>>>> promising to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements
>>>> regarding JPA integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans
>>>> generated with HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches
>>>> its limits. WOuld be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I
>>>> heard about teneo, butit looks not ready for production to me. Can
>>>> you give me any hints on that ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards Thomas
>>>
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #107977 is a reply to message #107935] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 22:32 |
 Martin Taal
Messages: 5468
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Hi Thomas,
I am sure that you can believe Ed :-). The Teneo project started a few years ago and has had many
builds. As you can see in the newsgroup, Teneo is and has been an actively used project. My own main
customer project in which I am using it is a 1000+ user web app for a large construction company
here in The Netherlands. So as far as I can see it is production ready.
Regarding jpa, Teneo supports the (hibernate) EntityManager. Teneo maps the model to a hibernate
mapping (hbm.xml), if you want to override the default mapping behavior you can specify jpa
annotations in the model or in a separate xml file. See here for more info:
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/ejb3_format.html
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/ejb3_examples.html
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/ejb3_features.html
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/hbdatastore.html#entitydatast ore
To get you started you can find tutorials here:
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/tutorialone/tutorial1_intro.h tml
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/tutorialtwo/tutorial2_intro.h tml
gr. Martin
Thomas wrote:
> HI Ed,
>
> thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is that
> the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about changing
> the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is worth a
> try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will believe
> you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a prototype. Can
> you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the elver site
> doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools around for
> model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple questions, even after
> 25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
>
> Regards Thomas
>
> Ed Merks schrieb:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project supports
>> Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
>> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>>
>> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
>> subject line with [Teneo]:
>> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>>
>> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>>
>> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>>
>> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many
>> folks have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is very
>> responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn up.
>> It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some prototype
>> work with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at EclipseCon
>> and will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show how easy it
>> is integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based applications...
>>
>>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very
>>> promising to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements
>>> regarding JPA integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans
>>> generated with HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches
>>> its limits. WOuld be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I
>>> heard about teneo, butit looks not ready for production to me. Can
>>> you give me any hints on that ?
>>>
>>> Regards Thomas
>>
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With Regards, Martin Taal
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #112864 is a reply to message #112445] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 12:50 |
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Originally posted by: merks.ca.ibm.com
Vlad,
Teneo also works for dynamic models, i.e., models for which there is no
generated code.
Vlad Varnica wrote:
> I don't understand why not to directly use the Dali project and just
> add live annotation synchronization in the code !!
>
> Omondo EclipseUML 2008 Free Edition will integrate these JPA features
> in the next few days.
>
> I mean annotations on class, attributes and methods. Associations will
> also generate annotations on getters. Dali will use the same
> annotation and EclipseUML will immediately load same dali annotations
> in the model. The important point is to just to use the same
> annotation model as dali in an UML profile. UML should not be the core
> of the persistence modeling approach but just an extension of JPA.
> Keep it simple as much as possible, please.
>
> Vlad VARNICA
> OMONDO
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #614066 is a reply to message #107913] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 15:55 |
Thomas
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HI Ed,
thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is that
the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about changing
the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is worth a
try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will believe
you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a prototype. Can
you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the elver site
doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools around for
model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple questions, even after
25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
Regards Thomas
Ed Merks schrieb:
> Thomas,
>
> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project supports
> Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>
> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
> subject line with [Teneo]:
> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>
> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>
> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>
> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many folks
> have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is very
> responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn up.
> It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some prototype work
> with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at EclipseCon and
> will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show how easy it is
> integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based applications...
>
>
> Thomas wrote:
>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very promising
>> to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements regarding JPA
>> integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans generated with
>> HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches its limits. WOuld
>> be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I heard about teneo,
>> butit looks not ready for production to me. Can you give me any hints
>> on that ?
>>
>> Regards Thomas
>
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #614067 is a reply to message #107935] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 16:04 |
Ed Merks
Messages: 33137
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Thomas,
You'll find that in general, documentation is the worst aspect of the
modeling projects. Lots of cool things but we don't like to write
documentation so much (nor do we have much time for it). You can
basically reuse all the normal EMF technology when using Teneo. For
Teneo, i's mostly just the resource stuff you need to fiddle with so
it's pretty simple. The EMFT project has a very nice graphical Ecore
editor now too, so I'd suggest playing with that too. Of course once
you have a model, you could even generate a graphical editor for it, so
the sky's the limit.
Thomas wrote:
> HI Ed,
>
> thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is
> that the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about
> changing the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is
> worth a try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will
> believe you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a
> prototype. Can you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the
> elver site doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools
> around for model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple
> questions, even after 25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
>
> Regards Thomas
>
> Ed Merks schrieb:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project
>> supports Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
>> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>>
>> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
>> subject line with [Teneo]:
>> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>>
>> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>>
>> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>>
>> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many
>> folks have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is
>> very responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn
>> up. It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some
>> prototype work with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at
>> EclipseCon and will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show
>> how easy it is integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based
>> applications...
>>
>>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very
>>> promising to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements
>>> regarding JPA integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans
>>> generated with HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches
>>> its limits. WOuld be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I
>>> heard about teneo, butit looks not ready for production to me. Can
>>> you give me any hints on that ?
>>>
>>> Regards Thomas
>>
Ed Merks
Professional Support: https://www.macromodeling.com/
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #614068 is a reply to message #107949] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 16:25 |
Thomas
Messages: 151
Registered: July 2009 |
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Hi Ed,
yes I had a look at the ecore editor some minutes ago :) Have to find
out where to find a matching version as Im (mostly) on stable 3.3. for
development. Ill have a look at this, I guess I take tomorrow for an
exploration. Thanks for your hints so far.
Thomas
Ed Merks schrieb:
> Thomas,
>
> You'll find that in general, documentation is the worst aspect of the
> modeling projects. Lots of cool things but we don't like to write
> documentation so much (nor do we have much time for it). You can
> basically reuse all the normal EMF technology when using Teneo. For
> Teneo, i's mostly just the resource stuff you need to fiddle with so
> it's pretty simple. The EMFT project has a very nice graphical Ecore
> editor now too, so I'd suggest playing with that too. Of course once
> you have a model, you could even generate a graphical editor for it, so
> the sky's the limit.
>
>
> Thomas wrote:
>> HI Ed,
>>
>> thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is
>> that the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about
>> changing the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is
>> worth a try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will
>> believe you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a
>> prototype. Can you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the
>> elver site doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools
>> around for model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple
>> questions, even after 25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
>>
>> Regards Thomas
>>
>> Ed Merks schrieb:
>>> Thomas,
>>>
>>> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project
>>> supports Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
>>> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>>>
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>>>
>>> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
>>> subject line with [Teneo]:
>>> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>>>
>>> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>>>
>>> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>>>
>>> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many
>>> folks have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is
>>> very responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn
>>> up. It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some
>>> prototype work with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at
>>> EclipseCon and will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show
>>> how easy it is integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based
>>> applications...
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas wrote:
>>>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very
>>>> promising to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements
>>>> regarding JPA integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans
>>>> generated with HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches
>>>> its limits. WOuld be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I
>>>> heard about teneo, butit looks not ready for production to me. Can
>>>> you give me any hints on that ?
>>>>
>>>> Regards Thomas
>>>
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #614069 is a reply to message #107935] |
Wed, 23 January 2008 22:32 |
Martin Taal
Messages: 5468
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Hi Thomas,
I am sure that you can believe Ed :-). The Teneo project started a few years ago and has had many
builds. As you can see in the newsgroup, Teneo is and has been an actively used project. My own main
customer project in which I am using it is a 1000+ user web app for a large construction company
here in The Netherlands. So as far as I can see it is production ready.
Regarding jpa, Teneo supports the (hibernate) EntityManager. Teneo maps the model to a hibernate
mapping (hbm.xml), if you want to override the default mapping behavior you can specify jpa
annotations in the model or in a separate xml file. See here for more info:
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/ejb3_format.html
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/ejb3_examples.html
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/ejb3_features.html
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/hbdatastore.html#entitydatast ore
To get you started you can find tutorials here:
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/tutorialone/tutorial1_intro.h tml
http://www.elver.org/hibernate/tutorialtwo/tutorial2_intro.h tml
gr. Martin
Thomas wrote:
> HI Ed,
>
> thanks for pointing me here. I think I have to dive into it. it is that
> the solution I have right now is quite cute and I shudder about changing
> the whole domain model. But on the other hand I think EMF is worth a
> try. If you tell me teneo is production ready, for now I will believe
> you :) I hope I find some time the next days to start a prototype. Can
> you point me to any examples I can have a look at ? the elver site
> doenst tell much. Do you know of any good modeling tools around for
> model generation with teneo ? Sorry for so simple questions, even after
> 25 years Im a newbie sometimes.
>
> Regards Thomas
>
> Ed Merks schrieb:
>> Thomas,
>>
>> EMF is awesome, but of course I'm biased. The Teneo project supports
>> Hibernate persistence of EMF objects and JPA very nicely:
>> <http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo>
>>
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/emft/?project=teneo
>>
>> To ask questions about it, please the EMFT newsgroup and prefix the
>> subject line with [Teneo]:
>> <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft>
>>
>> news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.emft
>>
>> I've included it on the "to" list of the reply for followups.
>>
>> I think Teneo definitely is ready for production use. I know many
>> folks have been using it for a number of years and Martin Taal is very
>> responsive to questions as wells as to fixing any bugs that turn up.
>> It's very easy to hook up. So I'd recommend you do some prototype
>> work with it and form your own opinion. Martin will be at EclipseCon
>> and will be helping out with one of the tutorials to show how easy it
>> is integrate Teneo with the rest of your EMF-based applications...
>>
>>
>> Thomas wrote:
>>> HI, I dont have much glue about EMF right now, it looks very
>>> promising to me. What I wonder if there are some improvements
>>> regarding JPA integration lately. Right now I have JavaBeans
>>> generated with HiberObjects, but as my model is growing it reaches
>>> its limits. WOuld be cool if I could do my JPA model with EMF. I
>>> heard about teneo, butit looks not ready for production to me. Can
>>> you give me any hints on that ?
>>>
>>> Regards Thomas
>>
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| Re: EMF - JPA ? [message #615532 is a reply to message #112445] |
Thu, 21 February 2008 12:50 |
Ed Merks
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Vlad,
Teneo also works for dynamic models, i.e., models for which there is no
generated code.
Vlad Varnica wrote:
> I don't understand why not to directly use the Dali project and just
> add live annotation synchronization in the code !!
>
> Omondo EclipseUML 2008 Free Edition will integrate these JPA features
> in the next few days.
>
> I mean annotations on class, attributes and methods. Associations will
> also generate annotations on getters. Dali will use the same
> annotation and EclipseUML will immediately load same dali annotations
> in the model. The important point is to just to use the same
> annotation model as dali in an UML profile. UML should not be the core
> of the persistence modeling approach but just an extension of JPA.
> Keep it simple as much as possible, please.
>
> Vlad VARNICA
> OMONDO
>
Ed Merks
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