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edapt project status [message #841852] Wed, 11 April 2012 19:51 Go to next message
Scott Lewis is currently offline Scott LewisFriend
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Could someone please describe the status of the edapt project proposal?

http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/edapt/

Was a EMFT project ever created from this proposal? Or some other project created (?) or still pending, or ?

Thanksinadvance,

Scott
Re: edapt project status [message #842397 is a reply to message #841852] Thu, 12 April 2012 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jonas Helming is currently offline Jonas HelmingFriend
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Hi,
the project has been created http://eclipse.org/edapt/
Cheers
Jonas

Am 11.04.2012 21:51, schrieb Scott Lewis:
> Could someone please describe the status of the edapt project proposal?
>
> http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/edapt/
>
> Was a EMFT project ever created from this proposal? Or some other
> project created (?) or still pending, or ?
>
> Thanksinadvance,
>
> Scott
>
Re: edapt project status [message #842738 is a reply to message #842397] Thu, 12 April 2012 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Lewis is currently offline Scott LewisFriend
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Hi Jonas,

Thanks for the link. There seems to be a single update site...published in 1/2011 (apparently). Do you know if there further releases planned soon? (e.g. before or as part of Juno)? Are you a contributor or committer to the project?

I see that the contact link is a single person...i.e. herrmama@in.tum.de. Do you happen to know who this is? There doesn't seem to be a mailing list for the project (that I can find)...do you know if one exists?

Thanks,

Scott





Re: edapt project status [message #842748 is a reply to message #842397] Thu, 12 April 2012 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Lewis is currently offline Scott LewisFriend
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Hi Jonas,

Thanks for the link. There seems to be a single update site...published in 1/2011 (apparently). Do you know if there further releases planned soon? (e.g. before or as part of Juno)? Are you a contributor or committer to the project?

I see that the contact link is a single person...i.e. mailto:herrmama@xxxxxxxx.de. Do you happen to know who this is? There doesn't seem to be a mailing list for the project (that I can find)...do you know if one exists?

Thanks,

Scott
Re: edapt project status [message #842752 is a reply to message #842397] Thu, 12 April 2012 15:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Lewis is currently offline Scott LewisFriend
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Hi Jonas,

Thanks for the link. There seems to be a single update site...published in 1/2011 (apparently). Do you know if there further releases planned soon? (e.g. before or as part of Juno)? Are you a contributor or committer to the project?

I see that the contact link is a single person...i.e. mailto:herrmama@xxxxxxxx.de. Do you happen to know who this is? There doesn't seem to be a mailing list for the project (that I can find)...do you know if one exists?

Thanks,

Scott
Re: edapt project status [message #846155 is a reply to message #842748] Sun, 15 April 2012 20:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Markus Herrmannsdoerfer is currently offline Markus HerrmannsdoerferFriend
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Hi Scott,

I am the contact person / project leader of the Edapt project. Jonas is
a committer to the project. The update site was published in 11/2011.
How can I help you?
Cheers,

Markus

Am 12.04.2012 17:27, schrieb Scott Lewis:
> Hi Jonas,
>
> Thanks for the link. There seems to be a single update site...published
> in 1/2011 (apparently). Do you know if there further releases planned
> soon? (e.g. before or as part of Juno)? Are you a contributor or
> committer to the project?
>
> I see that the contact link is a single person...i.e.
> mailto:herrmama@xxxxxxxx.de. Do you happen to know who this is? There
> doesn't seem to be a mailing list for the project (that I can find)...do
> you know if one exists?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>
Re: edapt project status [message #847961 is a reply to message #846155] Tue, 17 April 2012 20:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Lewis is currently offline Scott LewisFriend
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Markus Herrmannsdoerfer wrote on Sun, 15 April 2012 16:33
Hi Scott,

I am the contact person / project leader of the Edapt project. Jonas is
a committer to the project. The update site was published in 11/2011.
How can I help you?



Hi Markus,

I'm working with an organization that's considering using edapt, and they would just like to understand where the project is and where it's going. For example, edapt is in incubation right now (congratulations!)...are there plans/timeline for moving to be a mature project? How many committers are working on it/supporting it these days? Are all those committers from a single company, or are they from multiple (what companies)? Is edapt going to be participating in the Juno simultaneous release this year? If not, what are your plans for future releases?

Are there major plans for changes/additions to edapt over the next year? If so, what are they?

We/they would just like to get a clearer idea of where the project is going, when/what releases are likely in the coming year, and whether/how much support will be available via the project committers.

Thanks very much for any further info. edapt seems like a great idea...and I'm looking forward to working with it.

Scott
Re: edapt project status [message #854153 is a reply to message #847961] Mon, 23 April 2012 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Markus Herrmannsdoerfer is currently offline Markus HerrmannsdoerferFriend
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Hi Scott,

thank you for your interest in Edapt and sorry for the delay, I was on
holidays last week. Please find my answers to your questions below.

Am 17.04.2012 22:43, schrieb Scott Lewis:
> Markus Herrmannsdoerfer wrote on Sun, 15 April 2012 16:33
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I am the contact person / project leader of the Edapt project. Jonas
>> is a committer to the project. The update site was published in
>> 11/2011. How can I help you?
>
>
> Hi Markus,
>
> I'm working with an organization that's considering using edapt, and
> they would just like to understand where the project is and where it's
> going. For example, edapt is in incubation right now
> (congratulations!)...are there plans/timeline for moving to be a mature
> project?

I have recently changed my employer. Therefore I do not know at this
time how much effort I will be able to spend on Edapt in the future
apart from my free time.

> How many committers are working on it/supporting it these days?
> Are all those committers from a single company, or are they from
> multiple (what companies)?

One of the project leads is from itemis and two of the committers are
from EclipseSource. So there is different companies involved.
Additionally we have had some support from Marintek, who are also using
Edapt.

> Is edapt going to be participating in the
> Juno simultaneous release this year? If not, what are your plans for
> future releases?

Probably not. We will join the release train once we graduated from
incubation, which is planned for next year.

> Are there major plans for changes/additions to edapt over the next year?
> If so, what are they?

We are mostly going to address infrastructure issues, such as
documentation, build server and tests.

> We/they would just like to get a clearer idea of where the project is
> going, when/what releases are likely in the coming year, and whether/how
> much support will be available via the project committers.

The amount of effort the other companies are willing to invest via their
committers is definitely depending on how many paying customers use
Edapt. To be honest, to date there is not many paying users. There are
definitely committers qualified to provide commercial support though.

> Thanks very much for any further info. edapt seems like a great
> idea...and I'm looking forward to working with it.
>
> Scott

Thanks, I spent a great deal of effort to get it where it is now, so
great to hear that it might be of use for you!

Cheers,
Markus
Re: edapt project status [message #854174 is a reply to message #854153] Mon, 23 April 2012 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Scott Lewis is currently offline Scott LewisFriend
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Hi Markus,

Markus Herrmannsdoerfer wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 14:03
Hi Scott,

<stuff deleted>

> How many committers are working on it/supporting it these days?
> Are all those committers from a single company, or are they from
> multiple (what companies)?

One of the project leads is from itemis and two of the committers are
from EclipseSource. So there is different companies involved.
Additionally we have had some support from Marintek, who are also using
Edapt.



It's possible that the interested party might be able to contribute some resources to help maintain Edapt.

Quote:

<stuff deleted>

> We/they would just like to get a clearer idea of where the project is
> going, when/what releases are likely in the coming year, and whether/how
> much support will be available via the project committers.

The amount of effort the other companies are willing to invest via their
committers is definitely depending on how many paying customers use
Edapt. To be honest, to date there is not many paying users. There are
definitely committers qualified to provide commercial support though.



I don't quite understand what you mean by 'paying customers' for edapt. Paying to whom (and for what)?

Quote:

> Thanks very much for any further info. edapt seems like a great
> idea...and I'm looking forward to working with it.
>
> Scott

Thanks, I spent a great deal of effort to get it where it is now, so
great to hear that it might be of use for you!



It might be of use to the interested company, but there are a couple of apparent bugs...that are preventing assessment of it's actual use...here they are:

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377036
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377037

If you or one of the other committers could have a look at these...and help move them forward...or at least comment...so that Dmitri can do further assessment of edapt for the project's needs...it would be most appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott


Re: edapt project status [message #854210 is a reply to message #854174] Mon, 23 April 2012 19:25 Go to previous message
Markus Herrmannsdoerfer is currently offline Markus HerrmannsdoerferFriend
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Unfortunately, the project inbox does not seem to work so we did not get
notified about the bug reports. I took a look at the bug reports. I need
some more input (the ecore file) so I can reproduce the errors.

Am 23.04.2012 20:35, schrieb Scott Lewis:
> Hi Markus,
>
> Markus Herrmannsdoerfer wrote on Mon, 23 April 2012 14:03
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> <stuff deleted>
>>
>> > How many committers are working on it/supporting it these days?
>> > Are all those committers from a single company, or are they from
>> > multiple (what companies)?
>>
>> One of the project leads is from itemis and two of the committers are
>> from EclipseSource. So there is different companies involved.
>> Additionally we have had some support from Marintek, who are also using
>> Edapt.
>
>
> It's possible that the interested party might be able to contribute some
> resources to help maintain Edapt.
>
> Quote:
>> <stuff deleted>
>>
>> > We/they would just like to get a clearer idea of where the project is
>> > going, when/what releases are likely in the coming year, and
>> whether/how
>> > much support will be available via the project committers.
>>
>> The amount of effort the other companies are willing to invest via their
>> committers is definitely depending on how many paying customers use
>> Edapt. To be honest, to date there is not many paying users. There are
>> definitely committers qualified to provide commercial support though.
>
>
> I don't quite understand what you mean by 'paying customers' for edapt.
> Paying to whom (and for what)?
>
> Quote:
>> > Thanks very much for any further info. edapt seems like a great
>> > idea...and I'm looking forward to working with it.
>> >
>> > Scott
>>
>> Thanks, I spent a great deal of effort to get it where it is now, so
>> great to hear that it might be of use for you!
>
>
> It might be of use to the interested company, but there are a couple of
> apparent bugs...that are preventing assessment of it's actual use...here
> they are:
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377036
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=377037
>
> If you or one of the other committers could have a look at these...and
> help move them forward...or at least comment...so that Dmitri can do
> further assessment of edapt for the project's needs...it would be most
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>
>
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