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Questions regarding RAP [message #7041] Wed, 14 March 2007 09:35 Go to next message
Setya Nugdjaja is currently offline Setya NugdjajaFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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Hi all,

I've seen the RAP demo with the Google Maps while it looks impressive,
having some experiences in RCP I have the following questions:

1. I don't see EditorParts ext. point, is it not implemented in RAP ?
2. In the demo, how do I close the view tabs ?
3. If I minimize the application, how can I restore it ?
4. I notice that the application is sluggish and less responsive than RCP,
can we expect a better performance in the future ?


Despite the above questions, I'm excited about this project since this is
what I've been waiting for, displaying RCP in browser so that I don't have
to deploy it on every workstations.

Keep up the good work.


Best Regards,


Setya
Re: Questions regarding RAP [message #8056 is a reply to message #7041] Wed, 14 March 2007 21:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rüdiger Herrmann is currently offline Rüdiger HerrmannFriend
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Hi Setya,

please see my comments below

Cheers,
Rüdiger

Setya wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen the RAP demo with the Google Maps while it looks impressive,
> having some experiences in RCP I have the following questions:
>
> 1. I don't see EditorParts ext. point, is it not implemented in RAP ?

EditorParts are not yet implemented but are planned for version 1.0.

> 2. In the demo, how do I close the view tabs ?

Though the CTabFolder supports closing tab pages, colsing views is not
yet implemented in the workbench. As this isn't that hard to implement
it would be pretty uselsess without having the ability to let the user
open a view. But the OpenView-Actions are not yet implemented as well.

> 3. If I minimize the application, how can I restore it ?

Please see postings on this thread:
news://news.eclipse.org:119/et8t3u$61l$1@utils.eclipse.org

> 4. I notice that the application is sluggish and less responsive than
> RCP, can we expect a better performance in the future ?

Until now we haven't done extensive performance optimizations. So there
is still potential for this on the server- as on the client-side. First
performance measurements on the server-side for a workbench with some
views and almost no application logic resulting in 17ms processing time.
But since everything goes over the wire there are limits - mainly
latency as the size of data that is transferred is very small - that we
cannot influence.

>
>
> Despite the above questions, I'm excited about this project since this
> is what I've been waiting for, displaying RCP in browser so that I don't
> have to deploy it on every workstations.
>
> Keep up the good work.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Setya
>
Re: Questions regarding RAP [message #8148 is a reply to message #8056] Thu, 15 March 2007 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Setya Nugdjaja is currently offline Setya NugdjajaFriend
Messages: 567
Registered: July 2009
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Rüdiger,

Thanks for all your explanation. Here's my other questions:

1. While developing RCP I used to GUI-test my application using Abbot
framework. Is it possible to do the same on RAP ?
2. From your explanation it seems that RAP is not yet production ready
now. How long can I expect it to be production ready ?


Regards,


Setya
Re: Questions regarding RAP [message #8244 is a reply to message #8148] Thu, 15 March 2007 15:45 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: rherrmann.innoopract.com

Hi Setya,

as far as I know there does not exist any UI test framework for RAP yet.
As far as it makes sense we unit test the server-side widgets. Therefore
we use a simple Fixture that fakes the infrastructure that is
necessary to simulate the request, session etc.
If You are interested in this, have a look at
org.eclipse.rap.rwt.RWTFixture in plug-in org.eclipse.rap.rwt.test.

You are right, today RAP is ready for (first) development but not for
production yet. In the upcoming weeks we will migrate our Yoxos Ondemand
Service (http://ondemand.yoxos.com) to RAP - eat your own dog food.
Yoxos Ondemand is a service that is used by several thousand people
every day.
Furthermore we entered into a commitment with a client that RAP will be
production-ready in autumn.

Hope that helps,
Rüdiger


Setya wrote:
> Rüdiger,
>
> Thanks for all your explanation. Here's my other questions:
>
> 1. While developing RCP I used to GUI-test my application using Abbot
> framework. Is it possible to do the same on RAP ?
> 2. From your explanation it seems that RAP is not yet production ready
> now. How long can I expect it to be production ready ?
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Setya
>
>
>
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