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how to set up collaboration with xmpp-server? [message #624963] Thu, 03 September 2009 09:02 Go to next message
Alexander Malic is currently offline Alexander MalicFriend
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Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
hi,

we have an xmpp server running and i'd like to use the collaboration features from ecf. i found lots of articles showing the features, but i couldn't find any guide how to set it up.

is there any documentation, guide or book where i can get these information.

i'm using openfire (linux / oracle).

thanks in advance,
alex
some progress [message #624964 is a reply to message #624963] Thu, 03 September 2009 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alexander Malic is currently offline Alexander MalicFriend
Messages: 29
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
hi again,

i realized that i'm only able to share my editor with a buddy, that i've added to my list and that has accepted my request.

here are some issues that i have/had with ecf:

- first of all, i allways need to manually connect to the servers. some option to automatically connect to a server would be great
- i still have some connection credentials that didn't work, but there is no possibility to delete them. a preferences page with all the accounts would be great
- adding a contact can be done via add contact. when the contact is not online, there is no message or behaviour indicating that the contact was successfully added
- when a contact accepts a request, eclipse needs to be restarted, to make the share-editor option available
- if i share a project with someone, the other side should be able to choose if he/she wants the project to be shared in the actual workspace or choose some other workspace -> the project will be copied to the workspace
- there is no description how to set up the collaboration. i just found some screenshots showing that the connection-url starts with ecftcp://..
- the "search contact" option closes when entering a search-term and pressing the "enter"-key instead of searching for the search-term
- there's no ecf user documentation. something like the buckminster-book would be great

still i think that collaboration in eclipse is (can) be a great thing and that ecf is moving in the right direction. but there has some work to be done to make it really popular to non ecf-developers. i think if people start using ecf for collaboration in their development team, they will also start using it in their projects.

please make it easier to start with ecf!!!

maybe someone has some suggestions on this.

thanks in advance
Re: some progress [message #624966 is a reply to message #624964] Fri, 04 September 2009 13:55 Go to previous message
Remy Suen is currently offline Remy SuenFriend
Messages: 462
Registered: July 2009
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:16:08 -0400, Alexander Malic wrote:
> - first of all, i allways need to manually connect to the servers. some
> option to automatically connect to a server would be great

This is a known enhancement request. Due to the modular nature of OSGi,
which the Eclipse platform is built on top of, it is highly discouraged,
if not frowned upon, for plug-ins to start when the workbench is started
upon. Some sort of explicit opt-in mechanism would need to be created.
Please refer to bug 181510.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=181510

> - i still
> have some connection credentials that didn't work, but there is no
> possibility to delete them. a preferences page with all the accounts
> would be great

There's an open request to "forget" passwords which may be in line with
what you are looking for.

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=196295

> - adding a contact can be done via add contact. when the
> contact is not online, there is no message or behaviour indicating that
> the contact was successfully added

From looking at the code, it does appear to be a no-op. I suggest you
file a bug.

> - when a contact accepts a request,
> eclipse needs to be restarted, to make the share-editor option available

Not clear to me why this is so. Could be a bug in the XMPP code. Please
open a bug report if you can reproduce.

> - if i share a project with someone, the other side should be able to
> choose if he/she wants the project to be shared in the actual workspace
> or choose some other workspace -> the project will be copied to the
> workspace

This is non-trivial to implement in my opinion. Copying files is not
grossly difficult per se though it complicates the handling of resources
a bit as the two clients would have to deserialize resource information
properly while taking into account that the project names may be
different.

> - there is no description how to set up the collaboration. i
> just found some screenshots showing that the connection-url starts with
> ecftcp://..

There is no question in anyone's mind that documentation is lacking in
ECF. If you are interested in contributing, please let us know. You could
also edit the wiki pages directly assuming you have an Eclipse Bugzilla
account.

> - the "search contact" option closes when entering a
> search-term and pressing the "enter"-key instead of searching for the
> search-term

I'm not familiar with this code but it seems there is a usability problem
here. Please open a bug report.

> - there's no ecf user documentation. something like the
> buckminster-book would be great

See my earlier comment about our lackluster documentation.

Thank you for taking the time to for providing us with feedback about ECF.

Regards,
Remy
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