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| Re: The Missing Widget [message #54306 is a reply to message #54279] |
Mon, 09 June 2008 17:54   |
 Emil Crumhorn
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009 |
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That is cool!
With version 3.4 of SWT Alpha channels on shells will be supported (for
platforms that can (most)), so some cool stuff could be done there (not that
Alpha is necessarily required, but it's always a nice bonus effect).
Definitely would be a widget that would live happier in a Mylyn environment
but not entirely out of place in general I'd say.
Emil
"Andi Thomas" <athoma22@csc.com> wrote in message
news:g2j2nn$oid$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Emil,
>
> I'm not sure if this classifies as a Widget but it is cool!
>
> I would like to see a unified notification facade for Growl (mac), Snarl
> (Windows) & Mumbles (Linux).
>
> http://growl.info/
> http://www.fullphat.net/
> http://www.mumbles-project.org
>
> Mylyn has its own notification capability, and maybe there should be a
> "nothing is installed, do it myself" fallback mode - and as a failsafe for
> platforms with no notification framework AIX, Solaris, WindowsCE...?
>
> Ideally, I'd like to see Mylyn use this facade in a future release.
>
> - Andi
>
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> I'm curious what most people feel is the biggest missing widget in SWT.
>>
>> Considering how many "cool" .NET widgets I see on the net I always wonder
>> what SWT is truly missing that cannot be accomplished with the existing
>> widget set + Nebula + non-nebula widgets.
>>
>> So, what is the most painfully missed widget? =)
>>
>> Emil
>>
>>
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| Re: The Missing Widget [message #54332 is a reply to message #54306] |
Mon, 09 June 2008 18:30 |
Andi Thomas
Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009 |
Member |
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Hi Emil,
Just following up to make sure I was clear about what I was saying -
reading my post again I'm not sure I was.
I envisage an SWT Notification "widget". Its not really a widget in
itself, but an interface to external notification frameworks. On
Windows it would be Snarl, on the Mac it would be Growl, on Linux it
would be Mumbles.
If you are on another platform, or those frameworks aren't installed,
you would get an SWT notification that is written into the "widget" -
using as you say 3.4 alpha stuff to give some nice fade in, out effects,
etc.
I mentioned Mylyn only because it already has similar notification
capability, but it seems buried inside Mylyn and doesn't interface to
any external frameworks.
The advantage of the external frameworks is that (for apps that support
it, and the list is growing), you get centralized managed consistent
looking notifications. If 5 independent apps send a notification at the
same time, they get nicely laid out, not stacked on top of each other.
And for all 5 apps, the notification look is consistent - you still know
where each notification came from, but its a clean consistent look.
Similarly, the framework can allow some control by the user as to what
events they want each app to notify them off.
The cross-platform, pseudo-native aspect of the idea seemed very SWT-ish
to me, even though the external frameworks are not really a part of the
native OS widget set.
- Andi
Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> That is cool!
>
> With version 3.4 of SWT Alpha channels on shells will be supported (for
> platforms that can (most)), so some cool stuff could be done there (not that
> Alpha is necessarily required, but it's always a nice bonus effect).
>
> Definitely would be a widget that would live happier in a Mylyn environment
> but not entirely out of place in general I'd say.
>
> Emil
>
> "Andi Thomas" <athoma22@csc.com> wrote in message
> news:g2j2nn$oid$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> Hi Emil,
>>
>> I'm not sure if this classifies as a Widget but it is cool!
>>
>> I would like to see a unified notification facade for Growl (mac), Snarl
>> (Windows) & Mumbles (Linux).
>>
>> http://growl.info/
>> http://www.fullphat.net/
>> http://www.mumbles-project.org
>>
>> Mylyn has its own notification capability, and maybe there should be a
>> "nothing is installed, do it myself" fallback mode - and as a failsafe for
>> platforms with no notification framework AIX, Solaris, WindowsCE...?
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like to see Mylyn use this facade in a future release.
>>
>> - Andi
>>
>> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>>> I'm curious what most people feel is the biggest missing widget in SWT.
>>>
>>> Considering how many "cool" .NET widgets I see on the net I always wonder
>>> what SWT is truly missing that cannot be accomplished with the existing
>>> widget set + Nebula + non-nebula widgets.
>>>
>>> So, what is the most painfully missed widget? =)
>>>
>>> Emil
>>>
>>>
>
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| Re: The Missing Widget [message #590358 is a reply to message #54279] |
Mon, 09 June 2008 17:54 |
Emil Crumhorn
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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|
That is cool!
With version 3.4 of SWT Alpha channels on shells will be supported (for
platforms that can (most)), so some cool stuff could be done there (not that
Alpha is necessarily required, but it's always a nice bonus effect).
Definitely would be a widget that would live happier in a Mylyn environment
but not entirely out of place in general I'd say.
Emil
"Andi Thomas" <athoma22@csc.com> wrote in message
news:g2j2nn$oid$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Hi Emil,
>
> I'm not sure if this classifies as a Widget but it is cool!
>
> I would like to see a unified notification facade for Growl (mac), Snarl
> (Windows) & Mumbles (Linux).
>
> http://growl.info/
> http://www.fullphat.net/
> http://www.mumbles-project.org
>
> Mylyn has its own notification capability, and maybe there should be a
> "nothing is installed, do it myself" fallback mode - and as a failsafe for
> platforms with no notification framework AIX, Solaris, WindowsCE...?
>
> Ideally, I'd like to see Mylyn use this facade in a future release.
>
> - Andi
>
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> I'm curious what most people feel is the biggest missing widget in SWT.
>>
>> Considering how many "cool" .NET widgets I see on the net I always wonder
>> what SWT is truly missing that cannot be accomplished with the existing
>> widget set + Nebula + non-nebula widgets.
>>
>> So, what is the most painfully missed widget? =)
>>
>> Emil
>>
>>
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| Re: The Missing Widget [message #590366 is a reply to message #54306] |
Mon, 09 June 2008 18:30 |
Andi Thomas
Messages: 38
Registered: July 2009 |
Member |
|
|
Hi Emil,
Just following up to make sure I was clear about what I was saying -
reading my post again I'm not sure I was.
I envisage an SWT Notification "widget". Its not really a widget in
itself, but an interface to external notification frameworks. On
Windows it would be Snarl, on the Mac it would be Growl, on Linux it
would be Mumbles.
If you are on another platform, or those frameworks aren't installed,
you would get an SWT notification that is written into the "widget" -
using as you say 3.4 alpha stuff to give some nice fade in, out effects,
etc.
I mentioned Mylyn only because it already has similar notification
capability, but it seems buried inside Mylyn and doesn't interface to
any external frameworks.
The advantage of the external frameworks is that (for apps that support
it, and the list is growing), you get centralized managed consistent
looking notifications. If 5 independent apps send a notification at the
same time, they get nicely laid out, not stacked on top of each other.
And for all 5 apps, the notification look is consistent - you still know
where each notification came from, but its a clean consistent look.
Similarly, the framework can allow some control by the user as to what
events they want each app to notify them off.
The cross-platform, pseudo-native aspect of the idea seemed very SWT-ish
to me, even though the external frameworks are not really a part of the
native OS widget set.
- Andi
Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> That is cool!
>
> With version 3.4 of SWT Alpha channels on shells will be supported (for
> platforms that can (most)), so some cool stuff could be done there (not that
> Alpha is necessarily required, but it's always a nice bonus effect).
>
> Definitely would be a widget that would live happier in a Mylyn environment
> but not entirely out of place in general I'd say.
>
> Emil
>
> "Andi Thomas" <athoma22@csc.com> wrote in message
> news:g2j2nn$oid$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> Hi Emil,
>>
>> I'm not sure if this classifies as a Widget but it is cool!
>>
>> I would like to see a unified notification facade for Growl (mac), Snarl
>> (Windows) & Mumbles (Linux).
>>
>> http://growl.info/
>> http://www.fullphat.net/
>> http://www.mumbles-project.org
>>
>> Mylyn has its own notification capability, and maybe there should be a
>> "nothing is installed, do it myself" fallback mode - and as a failsafe for
>> platforms with no notification framework AIX, Solaris, WindowsCE...?
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like to see Mylyn use this facade in a future release.
>>
>> - Andi
>>
>> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>>> I'm curious what most people feel is the biggest missing widget in SWT.
>>>
>>> Considering how many "cool" .NET widgets I see on the net I always wonder
>>> what SWT is truly missing that cannot be accomplished with the existing
>>> widget set + Nebula + non-nebula widgets.
>>>
>>> So, what is the most painfully missed widget? =)
>>>
>>> Emil
>>>
>>>
>
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