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| Re: UML2Tools wiki updated [message #471888 is a reply to message #471881] |
Wed, 07 November 2007 13:58   |
 Felix Dorner
Messages: 676
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Tatiana Fesenko wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I updated our wiki-page - http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-UML2Tools.
> I additionally added FAQ section. I will be glad to hear your opinion -
> feedback is welcome.
>
> Best wishes,
> Tatiana.
>
>
Hi Tatiana,
first of all thanks for your contribution, such things motivate me to
give a little of my time. So here´ s my comment:
I am one of the persons who might stumble upon this page, so I did read
it. I just have one suggestion concerning the Section "Can I restore a
diagram from a semantic model (*.uml) file"
People may not be aware of the background technology (the UML2
Component) - and get confused by this. When someone searches for UML
modeling support he/she probably will want to draw diagrams, I mean:
A default user will not think: Hey, they have implemented the UML2
metamodel! Let´ s create some instances and visualize them as a diagram.
This is the approach that the section I refer to makes, one could also
call it the "bottom-up approach". This is something for users who are
aware of the emf-based technology that´ s used in the tools project -
and it´ s okay that this entry is there.
This is what a default user probably thinks: Cool Eclipse now has UML2
support. Let´ s draw a class diagram! Eventually people will then notice
what´s actually going on in the background when they draw their
diagrams. They eventually check out that there is something like a uml
metamodel etc, i.e. they will learn something new.
My suggestion is to provide a similar section that takes this "top down
approach" and explains the relations between diagrams and models - or at
least give some pointers to further information.
Thank you for updating the wiki. Maybe I can work on such a description
later.
Felix
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| Re: UML2Tools wiki updated [message #471891 is a reply to message #471888] |
Thu, 08 November 2007 15:27 |
Tatiana Fesenko
Messages: 530
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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Hello Felix,
Thanks for your time. I appreciate it. I added two more questions, they touch
the 'top-bottom' approach. Their answers contain the links to UML2 and GMF
wikis. Our wiki is much better now, isn't it?
Best wishes,
Tatiana.
> Tatiana Fesenko wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I updated our wiki-page - http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-UML2Tools.
>> I additionally added FAQ section. I will be glad to hear your opinion
>> -
>> feedback is welcome.
>> Best wishes,
>> Tatiana.
> Hi Tatiana,
>
> first of all thanks for your contribution, such things motivate me to
> give a little of my time. So here´ s my comment:
>
> I am one of the persons who might stumble upon this page, so I did
> read it. I just have one suggestion concerning the Section "Can I
> restore a diagram from a semantic model (*.uml) file"
>
> People may not be aware of the background technology (the UML2
> Component) - and get confused by this. When someone searches for UML
> modeling support he/she probably will want to draw diagrams, I mean:
>
> A default user will not think: Hey, they have implemented the UML2
> metamodel! Let´ s create some instances and visualize them as a
> diagram.
>
> This is the approach that the section I refer to makes, one could also
> call it the "bottom-up approach". This is something for users who are
> aware of the emf-based technology that´ s used in the tools project -
> and it´ s okay that this entry is there.
>
> This is what a default user probably thinks: Cool Eclipse now has UML2
> support. Let´ s draw a class diagram! Eventually people will then
> notice what´s actually going on in the background when they draw their
> diagrams. They eventually check out that there is something like a uml
> metamodel etc, i.e. they will learn something new.
>
> My suggestion is to provide a similar section that takes this "top
> down approach" and explains the relations between diagrams and models
> - or at least give some pointers to further information.
>
> Thank you for updating the wiki. Maybe I can work on such a
> description later.
>
> Felix
>
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| Re: UML2Tools wiki updated [message #609760 is a reply to message #471881] |
Wed, 07 November 2007 13:58 |
Felix Dorner
Messages: 676
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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|
Tatiana Fesenko wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I updated our wiki-page - http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-UML2Tools
> I additionally added FAQ section. I will be glad to hear your opinion -
> feedback is welcome.
>
> Best wishes,
> Tatiana.
>
>
Hi Tatiana,
first of all thanks for your contribution, such things motivate me to
give a little of my time. So here´ s my comment:
I am one of the persons who might stumble upon this page, so I did read
it. I just have one suggestion concerning the Section "Can I restore a
diagram from a semantic model (*.uml) file"
People may not be aware of the background technology (the UML2
Component) - and get confused by this. When someone searches for UML
modeling support he/she probably will want to draw diagrams, I mean:
A default user will not think: Hey, they have implemented the UML2
metamodel! Let´ s create some instances and visualize them as a diagram.
This is the approach that the section I refer to makes, one could also
call it the "bottom-up approach". This is something for users who are
aware of the emf-based technology that´ s used in the tools project -
and it´ s okay that this entry is there.
This is what a default user probably thinks: Cool Eclipse now has UML2
support. Let´ s draw a class diagram! Eventually people will then notice
what´s actually going on in the background when they draw their
diagrams. They eventually check out that there is something like a uml
metamodel etc, i.e. they will learn something new.
My suggestion is to provide a similar section that takes this "top down
approach" and explains the relations between diagrams and models - or at
least give some pointers to further information.
Thank you for updating the wiki. Maybe I can work on such a description
later.
Felix
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| Re: UML2Tools wiki updated [message #611465 is a reply to message #471888] |
Thu, 08 November 2007 15:27 |
Tatiana Fesenko
Messages: 530
Registered: July 2009 |
Senior Member |
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|
Hello Felix,
Thanks for your time. I appreciate it. I added two more questions, they touch
the 'top-bottom' approach. Their answers contain the links to UML2 and GMF
wikis. Our wiki is much better now, isn't it?
Best wishes,
Tatiana.
> Tatiana Fesenko wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I updated our wiki-page - http://wiki.eclipse.org/MDT-UML2Tools
>> I additionally added FAQ section. I will be glad to hear your opinion
>> -
>> feedback is welcome.
>> Best wishes,
>> Tatiana.
> Hi Tatiana,
>
> first of all thanks for your contribution, such things motivate me to
> give a little of my time. So here´ s my comment:
>
> I am one of the persons who might stumble upon this page, so I did
> read it. I just have one suggestion concerning the Section "Can I
> restore a diagram from a semantic model (*.uml) file"
>
> People may not be aware of the background technology (the UML2
> Component) - and get confused by this. When someone searches for UML
> modeling support he/she probably will want to draw diagrams, I mean:
>
> A default user will not think: Hey, they have implemented the UML2
> metamodel! Let´ s create some instances and visualize them as a
> diagram.
>
> This is the approach that the section I refer to makes, one could also
> call it the "bottom-up approach". This is something for users who are
> aware of the emf-based technology that´ s used in the tools project -
> and it´ s okay that this entry is there.
>
> This is what a default user probably thinks: Cool Eclipse now has UML2
> support. Let´ s draw a class diagram! Eventually people will then
> notice what´s actually going on in the background when they draw their
> diagrams. They eventually check out that there is something like a uml
> metamodel etc, i.e. they will learn something new.
>
> My suggestion is to provide a similar section that takes this "top
> down approach" and explains the relations between diagrams and models
> - or at least give some pointers to further information.
>
> Thank you for updating the wiki. Maybe I can work on such a
> description later.
>
> Felix
>
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