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New data binding framework [message #464653] Mon, 28 November 2005 03:00 Go to next message
Dave Orme is currently offline Dave OrmeFriend
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All,

Some of you know that JFace and VE have been working together on a new
data binding framework for Eclipse. In many cases, this will let you
replace pages of SWT event handlers with code like:

dataBinding.bind(textWidget, new Property(personBean, "name"), null);

There are two talks proposed about this new exciting framework at
EclipseCon:

http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=271

by myself, and

http://canuck.gda.itesm.mx/eclipsezilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89

by Boris Bokowski, a member of the JFace team

If you want to hear about this at EclipseCon, please vote today for one
or more of these submissions!


Best regards,

Dave Orme

--
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Re: New data binding framework [message #464663 is a reply to message #464653] Mon, 28 November 2005 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Konstantin Scheglov is currently offline Konstantin ScheglovFriend
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David J. Orme wrote:

> If you want to hear about this at EclipseCon, please vote today for one
> or more of these submissions!

We want to know when it will be ready and stabilized. :-)

--
SY, Konstantin.
Advanced Eclipse SWT Designer (http://www.swt-designer.com)


Konstantin Scheglov,
Google, Inc.
Re: New data binding framework [message #464700 is a reply to message #464663] Mon, 28 November 2005 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Orme is currently offline Dave OrmeFriend
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Konstantin Scheglov wrote:
> David J. Orme wrote:
>
>> If you want to hear about this at EclipseCon, please vote today for
>> one or more of these submissions!
>
> We want to know when it will be ready and stabilized. :-)

By what definition of "ready" and "stabilized"?

Officially, API freeze is scheduled for February, or before EclipseCon.
(So please vote for Boris's and my talks.)

But if you want to know if the library is ready to use, I'm using it
right now on a large-scale project, so for me it's "ready". But it's
not stabilized yet as in we're still making occasional API changes.
Most of those changes are very insigificant now. We occasionally find
additions we need to make, and this can force a refactoring.

So the question is really "how big is your project?" and "how long-term
is your investment?" If you've got a large project or a long-term
investment, I wouldn't hesitate to get involved today. Growing with a
project is the best way to really learn it backwards and forwards. And
the Eclipse data binding framework will be the standard data binding
framework for SWT for years to come, so your investment will pay
dividends for years to come.


Best regards,

Dave Orme
--
Visual Editor Project lead
http://www.db4o.com -- The Open-source Java Object Database
http://xswt.sf.net -- XML-based SWT page description language
Re: New data binding framework [message #464704 is a reply to message #464700] Tue, 29 November 2005 00:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haris Peco is currently offline Haris PecoFriend
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David,
Is there any tutorial, getting start or like document
for start
I import plugins and start tests (there are failed tests in 3.1.1)

Thanks
David J. Orme wrote:

> Konstantin Scheglov wrote:
>> David J. Orme wrote:
>>
>>> If you want to hear about this at EclipseCon, please vote today for
>>> one or more of these submissions!
>>
>> We want to know when it will be ready and stabilized. :-)
>
> By what definition of "ready" and "stabilized"?
>
> Officially, API freeze is scheduled for February, or before EclipseCon.
> (So please vote for Boris's and my talks.)
>
> But if you want to know if the library is ready to use, I'm using it
> right now on a large-scale project, so for me it's "ready". But it's
> not stabilized yet as in we're still making occasional API changes.
> Most of those changes are very insigificant now. We occasionally find
> additions we need to make, and this can force a refactoring.
>
> So the question is really "how big is your project?" and "how long-term
> is your investment?" If you've got a large project or a long-term
> investment, I wouldn't hesitate to get involved today. Growing with a
> project is the best way to really learn it backwards and forwards. And
> the Eclipse data binding framework will be the standard data binding
> framework for SWT for years to come, so your investment will pay
> dividends for years to come.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dave Orme
Re: New data binding framework [message #464715 is a reply to message #464704] Tue, 29 November 2005 04:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dave Orme is currently offline Dave OrmeFriend
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Haris Peco wrote:
> David,
> Is there any tutorial, getting start or like document
> for start

http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/plat form-ui-home/databinding-proposal/databinding.html

In addition, the code in the

org.eclipse.jface.examples.binding.scenarios

plug-in contains pretty much one example per use-case we've thought of.
This can help you get started since these examples are each pretty
simple. If you can think of scenarios we haven't thought of that can't
be handled easily, please file bug reports.

And when you file bug reports, please put "[DataBinding]" at the
beginning of your summary so we can find them easily. Thanks much in
advance!

> I import plugins and start tests (there are failed tests in 3.1.1)

If any tests fail for you, please file bug reports with as much
information as possible about the failure. We try to keep the test
cases clean as we develop.


Best regards,

Dave Orme
--
Visual Editor Project lead
http://www.db4o.com -- The Open-source Java Object Database
http://xswt.sf.net -- XML-based SWT page description language
Re: New data binding framework [message #464739 is a reply to message #464715] Tue, 29 November 2005 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haris Peco is currently offline Haris PecoFriend
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David J. Orme wrote:

> Haris Peco wrote:
>> David,
>> Is there any tutorial, getting start or like document
>> for start
>
>
http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/plat form-ui-home/databinding-proposal/databinding.html
>
> In addition, the code in the
>
> org.eclipse.jface.examples.binding.scenarios
>
> plug-in contains pretty much one example per use-case we've thought of.
> This can help you get started since these examples are each pretty
> simple. If you can think of scenarios we haven't thought of that can't
> be handled easily, please file bug reports.
>

How i can start any examples ?
I read proposal, but i don't know start

> If any tests fail for you, please file bug reports with as much
> information as possible about the failure.  We try to keep the test
> cases clean as we develop.

i test yet - i use eclipse 3.1.1 and it is reason, maybe

Thanks
Re: New data binding framework [message #464791 is a reply to message #464739] Tue, 29 November 2005 23:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Grzegorz Zieliñski is currently offline Grzegorz ZieliñskiFriend
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Hello Haris,

> David J. Orme wrote:
>
>> Haris Peco wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>> Is there any tutorial, getting start or like document
>>> for start
> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/plat form-ui-ho
> me/databinding-proposal/databinding.html
>
>> In addition, the code in the
>>
>> org.eclipse.jface.examples.binding.scenarios
>>
>> plug-in contains pretty much one example per use-case we've thought
>> of. This can help you get started since these examples are each
>> pretty simple. If you can think of scenarios we haven't thought of
>> that can't be handled easily, please file bug reports.
>>
> How i can start any examples ?
> I read proposal, but i don't know start
>> If any tests fail for you, please file bug reports with as much
>> information as possible about the failure. We try to keep the test
>> cases clean as we develop.
>>
> i test yet - i use eclipse 3.1.1 and it is reason, maybe
>
> Thanks
>

How can I get and install this plug-in?

Thank you for answer

Grzegorz Zieliński
g_zielinski<at>intechion.pl
Re: New data binding framework [message #464793 is a reply to message #464791] Wed, 30 November 2005 01:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haris Peco is currently offline Haris PecoFriend
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Grzegorz,
I do next :

download from cvs plugins :
org.eclipse.jface.databinding
org.eclipse.jface.tests.databinding
org.eclipse.jface.examples.databinding

you can do direct from eclipse (i use command line cvs in linux)

cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@dev.eclipse.org:/home/eclipse login

password is ENTER (no password for anonymous)

and

cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@dev.eclipse.org:/home/eclipse co \
org.eclipse.jface.databinding

and same others

import 3 projects in eclipse and it is all

you can search, export, checkout again etc

regards
>
> How can I get and install this plug-in?
>
> Thank you for answer
>
> Grzegorz Zieliński
> g_zielinski<at>intechion.pl
Re: New data binding framework [message #464801 is a reply to message #464793] Wed, 30 November 2005 01:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Grzegorz Zieliñski is currently offline Grzegorz ZieliñskiFriend
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Hello Haris,

> Grzegorz,
> I do next :
> download from cvs plugins :
> org.eclipse.jface.databinding
> org.eclipse.jface.tests.databinding
> org.eclipse.jface.examples.databinding
> you can do direct from eclipse (i use command line cvs in linux)
>
> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@dev.eclipse.org:/home/eclipse login
>
> password is ENTER (no password for anonymous)
>
> and
>
> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@dev.eclipse.org:/home/eclipse co \
> org.eclipse.jface.databinding
>
> and same others
>
> import 3 projects in eclipse and it is all
>
> you can search, export, checkout again etc
>
> regards
>
>> How can I get and install this plug-in?
>>
>> Thank you for answer
>>
>> Grzegorz Zieliński
>> g_zielinski<at>intechion.pl

Thank you! :) I'll try it.

Grzegorz Zieliński
g_zielinski<at>intechion.pl
Re: New data binding framework [message #464803 is a reply to message #464801] Wed, 30 November 2005 02:59 Go to previous message
Dave Orme is currently offline Dave OrmeFriend
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This should work. Alternatively, you could download a recent nightly
build and just grab the JAR files out of the plugins directory.

If you try it and have problems, please post questions to the RCP
newsgroup and bug reports to Platform/UI with a subject line starting
with [DataBinding].


Best regards,

Dave Orme

Grzegorz Zieliński wrote:
> Hello Haris,
>
>> Grzegorz,
>> I do next :
>> download from cvs plugins :
>> org.eclipse.jface.databinding
>> org.eclipse.jface.tests.databinding
>> org.eclipse.jface.examples.databinding
>> you can do direct from eclipse (i use command line cvs in linux)
>>
>> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@dev.eclipse.org:/home/eclipse login
>>
>> password is ENTER (no password for anonymous)
>>
>> and
>>
>> cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@dev.eclipse.org:/home/eclipse co \
>> org.eclipse.jface.databinding
>>
>> and same others
>>
>> import 3 projects in eclipse and it is all
>>
>> you can search, export, checkout again etc
>>
>> regards
>>
>>> How can I get and install this plug-in?
>>>
>>> Thank you for answer
>>>
>>> Grzegorz Zieliński
>>> g_zielinski<at>intechion.pl
>
>
> Thank you! :) I'll try it.
>
> Grzegorz Zieliński
> g_zielinski<at>intechion.pl
>
>


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