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Any speed news for gtk? [message #448699] Thu, 13 January 2005 14:40 Go to next message
Andreas Schmidt is currently offline Andreas SchmidtFriend
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Eclipse is still unbelievably slow on gtk. I know this is an old topic,
but is there any progress, or any hopes for the near future? As for the
alternatives, swt/fox is still unstable, and I don't want to switch to
windows, just to use eclipse.

Thanks
Andi
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #448700 is a reply to message #448699] Thu, 13 January 2005 15:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Veronika Irvine is currently offline Veronika IrvineFriend
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See:

http://vektor.ca/eclipse/gtk-performance-notes.html

https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=76804

Billy Biggs has just joined the SWT team and this will be his top priority
task.

"Andreas Schmidt" <schmidt.2002@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Eclipse is still unbelievably slow on gtk. I know this is an old topic,
> but is there any progress, or any hopes for the near future? As for the
> alternatives, swt/fox is still unstable, and I don't want to switch to
> windows, just to use eclipse.
>
> Thanks
> Andi
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #448747 is a reply to message #448699] Thu, 13 January 2005 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ivan Markov is currently offline Ivan MarkovFriend
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swtfox will never be as stable as the other ports, as the home page says.

Simply because
a) It is my part time pet project (I'can't stress the "part" enough)
b) SWT is a moving target.

If you want more stability in swtfox, just avoid new features in SWT, like
the Browser widget and its uses in the PDE/JDT. Also avoid bleeding edge
Eclipse releases (3.1M4).

Sorry for the shameless plug.



"Andreas Schmidt" <schmidt.2002@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:opskjppcnjhj6ai6@news.eclipse.org...
> Eclipse is still unbelievably slow on gtk. I know this is an old topic,
> but is there any progress, or any hopes for the near future? As for the
> alternatives, swt/fox is still unstable, and I don't want to switch to
> windows, just to use eclipse.
>
> Thanks
> Andi
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #448748 is a reply to message #448699] Thu, 13 January 2005 18:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Philip Borlin is currently offline Philip BorlinFriend
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A couple of months ago I moved from RedHat 9 to Fedora Core 3 and was
surprised by the huge speedup in Eclipse. How old is the GTK you are
running?

-Phil

Andreas Schmidt wrote:

> Eclipse is still unbelievably slow on gtk. I know this is an old topic,
> but is there any progress, or any hopes for the near future? As for the
> alternatives, swt/fox is still unstable, and I don't want to switch to
> windows, just to use eclipse.

> Thanks
> Andi
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #448749 is a reply to message #448748] Thu, 13 January 2005 18:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andreas Schmidt is currently offline Andreas SchmidtFriend
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:20 +0000 (UTC), Philip Borlin
<pborlin@cmcflex.com> wrote:

> A couple of months ago I moved from RedHat 9 to Fedora Core 3 and was
> surprised by the huge speedup in Eclipse. How old is the GTK you are
> running?

I am running RedHat 9! Hmm, I'm looking forward to Fedora Core 3, then...
I just checked it on distrowatch.com: RedHat 9 uses gtk 2.2.1, while
fedora 3 uses gtk 2.4.13 (SuSE 9.2 uses gtk 2.4.9)

Andi
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #448766 is a reply to message #448747] Thu, 13 January 2005 20:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andreas Schmidt is currently offline Andreas SchmidtFriend
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:48:18 +0200, Ivan Markov <ivan.markov@wizcom.bg>
wrote:

> swtfox will never be as stable as the other ports, as the home page says.
>
> Simply because
> a) It is my part time pet project (I'can't stress the "part" enough)

You need a sponsor. :) And more developers. Is no one willing to help with
this project?

> b) SWT is a moving target.
>
> If you want more stability in swtfox, just avoid new features in SWT,
> like
> the Browser widget and its uses in the PDE/JDT. Also avoid bleeding edge
> Eclipse releases (3.1M4).
>
> Sorry for the shameless plug.
>
>
>
> "Andreas Schmidt" <schmidt.2002@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:opskjppcnjhj6ai6@news.eclipse.org...
>> Eclipse is still unbelievably slow on gtk. I know this is an old topic,
>> but is there any progress, or any hopes for the near future? As for the
>> alternatives, swt/fox is still unstable, and I don't want to switch to
>> windows, just to use eclipse.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Andi
>
>
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #448870 is a reply to message #448766] Fri, 14 January 2005 12:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ivan Markov is currently offline Ivan MarkovFriend
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"Andreas Schmidt" <schmidt.2002@gmx.de> wrote in message
news:opskj58cezhj6ai6@news.eclipse.org...
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:48:18 +0200, Ivan Markov <ivan.markov@wizcom.bg>
> wrote:
>
> > swtfox will never be as stable as the other ports, as the home page
says.
> >
> > Simply because
> > a) It is my part time pet project (I'can't stress the "part" enough)
>
> You need a sponsor. :) And more developers. Is no one willing to help with
> this project?

Heh. It is hard to justify a SWT port to C++ toolkit with small userbase.
As to the developers, the work is not a rocket science, but when I say that
the developer should not be affraid by C++ and should know at least a little
bit of Xlib and or Win32, most silently go away. :)
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #448873 is a reply to message #448747] Fri, 14 January 2005 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alexander Ilyin is currently offline Alexander IlyinFriend
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>Sorry for the shameless plug.
>
>
>

No it's great work. This is only hope to use Eclipse on Linux because
GTK and Motif is live advertising of MS Windows.
I can't understand Eclipse team why it spend so many forces to improve
unimprovable ones rather then get good and ready solution which is
SWT/Fox and make it main official port for Linux.

Everybody who like SWT/Fox please vote for this bug:
https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=39446

May be this encourage Eclipse developers to make SWT/Fox official
supported solution.
Re: Any speed news for gtk? [message #449002 is a reply to message #448749] Mon, 17 January 2005 16:28 Go to previous message
Billy Biggs is currently offline Billy BiggsFriend
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Andreas Schmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:29:20 +0000 (UTC), Philip Borlin
> <pborlin@cmcflex.com> wrote:
>
>> A couple of months ago I moved from RedHat 9 to Fedora Core 3 and was
>> surprised by the huge speedup in Eclipse. How old is the GTK you are
>> running?
>
>
> I am running RedHat 9! Hmm, I'm looking forward to Fedora Core 3,
> then... I just checked it on distrowatch.com: RedHat 9 uses gtk 2.2.1,
> while fedora 3 uses gtk 2.4.13 (SuSE 9.2 uses gtk 2.4.9)

If you are finding Eclipse/GTK+ extremely slow on RH9 I would be
interested in knowing more about your setup and what operations in
particular are bad. If you can drop by IRC (#eclipse on
irc.freenode.net) or send me an email (vektor@gmail.com) I would be
interested in hearing your thoughts.

-Billy
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