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SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #44177] Wed, 28 November 2007 21:05 Go to next message
Emil Crumhorn is currently offline Emil CrumhornFriend
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Registered: July 2009
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Hello all!

Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as an
Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country among
other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured I'd make
an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be quite a bit more
stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes and new features (the
RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among others), but there's still
stuff missing and so on.

For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/

You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
code.

Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when I
can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source jar.

Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that uses
it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.

Enjoy (I hope)!
Emil

--
Emil Crumhorn
Nebula Committer
http://www.hexapixel.com/
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #44358 is a reply to message #44177] Thu, 29 November 2007 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris GrossFriend
Messages: 253
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Very very cool stuff. I downloaded the source to try stuff out but its
not complete. There appears to be some utility classes/package thats
not included :(

-Chris

Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as an
> Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country among
> other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured I'd make
> an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be quite a bit more
> stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes and new features (the
> RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among others), but there's still
> stuff missing and so on.
>
> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>
> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
> code.
>
> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when I
> can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source jar.
>
> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that uses
> it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>
> Enjoy (I hope)!
> Emil
>
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #44420 is a reply to message #44358] Fri, 30 November 2007 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emil Crumhorn is currently offline Emil CrumhornFriend
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009
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Ack, you're right, I'm an idiot. In my haste I forgot the generic part of
the package. I've made the changes and uploaded new files of each, let me
know if there's still trouble.

Thanks! :)
Emil

"Chris Gross" <chris.gross@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:fingl5$4o5$2@build.eclipse.org...
> Very very cool stuff. I downloaded the source to try stuff out but its
> not complete. There appears to be some utility classes/package thats not
> included :(
>
> -Chris
>
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>
>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>>
>> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
>> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
>> code.
>>
>> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when
>> I can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source
>> jar.
>>
>> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
>> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
>> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that
>> uses it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>>
>> Enjoy (I hope)!
>> Emil
>>
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #44451 is a reply to message #44177] Fri, 30 November 2007 19:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as an
> Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country among
> other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured I'd make
> an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be quite a bit more
> stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes and new features (the
> RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among others), but there's still
> stuff missing and so on.
>
> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/

Can I make a suggestion: there's no high-level explanation - I can't
tell at a glance what the thing is supposed to do. You should provide an
"introduction" that gives the gist in a couple of sentences.

Eric
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #44481 is a reply to message #44451] Sun, 02 December 2007 13:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Emil Crumhorn is currently offline Emil CrumhornFriend
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I guess I figured pretty much everyone knew what the Office 2007 ribbon was
at this point, you're the first I've heard ask what it's for.

In short:
The ribbon is a menubar and toolbar replacement widget that gives an easy
overview of menu items and toolbar items by showing large clear buttons and
descriptive tooltips. Each tab could be viewed as a menu section (for
example "Edit") and then each item in that tab area could be viewed as a
menu item, such as "Find" or "Copy" etc.

Microsoft does a much better job describing it of course:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA101679411033.as px
(and there's many more sites for more info)

I assume that's what you were asking for.

Emil

"Eric Rizzo" <eclipse-news@rizzoweb.com> wrote in message
news:fippj4$c2f$2@build.eclipse.org...
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>
>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>
> Can I make a suggestion: there's no high-level explanation - I can't tell
> at a glance what the thing is supposed to do. You should provide an
> "introduction" that gives the gist in a couple of sentences.
>
> Eric
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #44511 is a reply to message #44481] Mon, 03 December 2007 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> I guess I figured pretty much everyone knew what the Office 2007 ribbon was
> at this point, you're the first I've heard ask what it's for.
>
> In short:
> The ribbon is a menubar and toolbar replacement widget that gives an easy
> overview of menu items and toolbar items by showing large clear buttons and
> descriptive tooltips. Each tab could be viewed as a menu section (for
> example "Edit") and then each item in that tab area could be viewed as a
> menu item, such as "Find" or "Copy" etc.
>
> Microsoft does a much better job describing it of course:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA101679411033.as px
> (and there's many more sites for more info)
>
> I assume that's what you were asking for.

It helps me understand a little better, but my suggestion was really
that the web page for your SWT implementation should explain it. I
definitely think it is invalid to assume "everyone" will be familiar
with Office 2007 - many companies and people have not yet upgraded.

Eric



> "Eric Rizzo" <eclipse-news@rizzoweb.com> wrote in message
> news:fippj4$c2f$2@build.eclipse.org...
>> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>>
>>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>> Can I make a suggestion: there's no high-level explanation - I can't tell
>> at a glance what the thing is supposed to do. You should provide an
>> "introduction" that gives the gist in a couple of sentences.
>>
>> Eric
>
>
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #60942 is a reply to message #44177] Sat, 29 November 2008 02:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Darren Bell is currently offline Darren BellFriend
Messages: 3
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as an
> Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country among
> other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured I'd make
> an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be quite a bit more
> stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes and new features (the
> RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among others), but there's still
> stuff missing and so on.
>
> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>
> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
> code.
>
> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when I
> can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source jar.
>
> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that uses
> it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>
> Enjoy (I hope)!
> Emil
>
Any news on a new release? This would be cool for a project we are
planning.
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #61064 is a reply to message #60942] Mon, 08 December 2008 20:35 Go to previous message
Emil Crumhorn is currently offline Emil CrumhornFriend
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Darren,

Not at the moment. The project has been stalled as I've been cleaning up the
3 other widgets that are in Nebula, as well as other real life tasks + work.

I would like to finish it, but there is no new version coming at the moment.
It's hard to find time to keep all these widgets going solo :)

But that said, I hope to be able to go back into it soon.

Regards,
Emil

"Darren Bell" <djb.bell@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ggq85u$je$2@build.eclipse.org...
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>
>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>>
>> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
>> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
>> code.
>>
>> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when
>> I can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source
>> jar.
>>
>> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
>> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
>> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that
>> uses it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>>
>> Enjoy (I hope)!
>> Emil
>>
> Any news on a new release? This would be cool for a project we are
> planning.
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #586821 is a reply to message #44177] Thu, 29 November 2007 23:07 Go to previous message
Chris Gross is currently offline Chris GrossFriend
Messages: 471
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Very very cool stuff. I downloaded the source to try stuff out but its
not complete. There appears to be some utility classes/package thats
not included :(

-Chris

Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as an
> Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country among
> other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured I'd make
> an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be quite a bit more
> stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes and new features (the
> RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among others), but there's still
> stuff missing and so on.
>
> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>
> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
> code.
>
> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when I
> can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source jar.
>
> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that uses
> it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>
> Enjoy (I hope)!
> Emil
>
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #586847 is a reply to message #44358] Fri, 30 November 2007 09:24 Go to previous message
Emil Crumhorn is currently offline Emil CrumhornFriend
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Ack, you're right, I'm an idiot. In my haste I forgot the generic part of
the package. I've made the changes and uploaded new files of each, let me
know if there's still trouble.

Thanks! :)
Emil

"Chris Gross" <chris.gross@us.ibm.com> wrote in message
news:fingl5$4o5$2@build.eclipse.org...
> Very very cool stuff. I downloaded the source to try stuff out but its
> not complete. There appears to be some utility classes/package thats not
> included :(
>
> -Chris
>
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>
>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>>
>> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
>> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
>> code.
>>
>> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when
>> I can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source
>> jar.
>>
>> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
>> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
>> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that
>> uses it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>>
>> Enjoy (I hope)!
>> Emil
>>
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #586864 is a reply to message #44177] Fri, 30 November 2007 19:51 Go to previous message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
Messages: 3070
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as an
> Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country among
> other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured I'd make
> an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be quite a bit more
> stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes and new features (the
> RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among others), but there's still
> stuff missing and so on.
>
> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/

Can I make a suggestion: there's no high-level explanation - I can't
tell at a glance what the thing is supposed to do. You should provide an
"introduction" that gives the gist in a couple of sentences.

Eric
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #586874 is a reply to message #44451] Sun, 02 December 2007 13:12 Go to previous message
Emil Crumhorn is currently offline Emil CrumhornFriend
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
I guess I figured pretty much everyone knew what the Office 2007 ribbon was
at this point, you're the first I've heard ask what it's for.

In short:
The ribbon is a menubar and toolbar replacement widget that gives an easy
overview of menu items and toolbar items by showing large clear buttons and
descriptive tooltips. Each tab could be viewed as a menu section (for
example "Edit") and then each item in that tab area could be viewed as a
menu item, such as "Find" or "Copy" etc.

Microsoft does a much better job describing it of course:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA101679411033.as px
(and there's many more sites for more info)

I assume that's what you were asking for.

Emil

"Eric Rizzo" <eclipse-news@rizzoweb.com> wrote in message
news:fippj4$c2f$2@build.eclipse.org...
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>
>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>
> Can I make a suggestion: there's no high-level explanation - I can't tell
> at a glance what the thing is supposed to do. You should provide an
> "introduction" that gives the gist in a couple of sentences.
>
> Eric
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #586884 is a reply to message #44481] Mon, 03 December 2007 16:45 Go to previous message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
Messages: 3070
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> I guess I figured pretty much everyone knew what the Office 2007 ribbon was
> at this point, you're the first I've heard ask what it's for.
>
> In short:
> The ribbon is a menubar and toolbar replacement widget that gives an easy
> overview of menu items and toolbar items by showing large clear buttons and
> descriptive tooltips. Each tab could be viewed as a menu section (for
> example "Edit") and then each item in that tab area could be viewed as a
> menu item, such as "Find" or "Copy" etc.
>
> Microsoft does a much better job describing it of course:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/products/HA101679411033.as px
> (and there's many more sites for more info)
>
> I assume that's what you were asking for.

It helps me understand a little better, but my suggestion was really
that the web page for your SWT implementation should explain it. I
definitely think it is invalid to assume "everyone" will be familiar
with Office 2007 - many companies and people have not yet upgraded.

Eric



> "Eric Rizzo" <eclipse-news@rizzoweb.com> wrote in message
> news:fippj4$c2f$2@build.eclipse.org...
>> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>>
>>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>> Can I make a suggestion: there's no high-level explanation - I can't tell
>> at a glance what the thing is supposed to do. You should provide an
>> "introduction" that gives the gist in a couple of sentences.
>>
>> Eric
>
>
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #592837 is a reply to message #44177] Sat, 29 November 2008 02:07 Go to previous message
Darren Bell is currently offline Darren BellFriend
Messages: 3
Registered: July 2009
Junior Member
Emil Crumhorn wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as an
> Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country among
> other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured I'd make
> an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be quite a bit more
> stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes and new features (the
> RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among others), but there's still
> stuff missing and so on.
>
> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>
> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
> code.
>
> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when I
> can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source jar.
>
> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that uses
> it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>
> Enjoy (I hope)!
> Emil
>
Any news on a new release? This would be cool for a project we are
planning.
Re: SWT Ribbon - Alpha 2 Out [message #592892 is a reply to message #60942] Mon, 08 December 2008 20:35 Go to previous message
Emil Crumhorn is currently offline Emil CrumhornFriend
Messages: 169
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Darren,

Not at the moment. The project has been stalled as I've been cleaning up the
3 other widgets that are in Nebula, as well as other real life tasks + work.

I would like to finish it, but there is no new version coming at the moment.
It's hard to find time to keep all these widgets going solo :)

But that said, I hope to be able to go back into it soon.

Regards,
Emil

"Darren Bell" <djb.bell@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ggq85u$je$2@build.eclipse.org...
> Emil Crumhorn wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> Just doing a quick post to let you all know the SWT Ribbon is up/out as
>> an Alpha 2. I'm between things at the moment (moving to a new country
>> among other things - no I'm not running from anything ;-) ) so I figured
>> I'd make an update to it while I can and have internet. It should be
>> quite a bit more stable than the first Alpha and includes lots of fixes
>> and new features (the RibbonShell and the two-style toolbars among
>> others), but there's still stuff missing and so on.
>>
>> For downloads, screenshots, what's left to do, etc, go to
>> http://www.hexapixel.com/ribbon/
>>
>> You'll need Java 5, I don't really plan on making it 1.4 or earlier
>> compatible, 5.0 is just too convenient for maintaining large amounts of
>> code.
>>
>> Please post questions/problems in this very thread and I'll check it when
>> I can. For example code, check the RibbonTester.java file in the source
>> jar.
>>
>> Kind of important note: It's not required you use the RibbonShell at all,
>> you can use it as a widget as well just like the older screenshots. The
>> sample code however uses the shell but there's commented out code that
>> uses it as a widget in the RibbonTester.java file as well.
>>
>> Enjoy (I hope)!
>> Emil
>>
> Any news on a new release? This would be cool for a project we are
> planning.
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