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Eclipse and JRuby licensing [message #38011] Thu, 04 June 2009 11:02 Go to next message
Louis Rose is currently offline Louis RoseFriend
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Hi all,

Please forgive the off-topic post...

I'm a committer on Epsilon, part of the GMT project. We're contemplating
developing some new plug-ins using JRuby. We were wondering if anyone
working on the DLTK project knows about the licensing issues surrounding
JRuby, and releasing plug-ins through Eclipse that contain JRuby code.

Specifically, what is the IP process for JRuby code? How do we manage
the dependency on JRuby? Do we need to bundle JRuby as part of our
feature, or should we depend on the DLTK project?

Many thanks for any ideas you may have.

Cheers,
Louis.

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Re: Eclipse and JRuby licensing [message #38183 is a reply to message #38011] Mon, 08 June 2009 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Aniszczyk is currently offline Chris AniszczykFriend
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Louis Rose wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Please forgive the off-topic post...
>
> I'm a committer on Epsilon, part of the GMT project. We're contemplating
> developing some new plug-ins using JRuby. We were wondering if anyone
> working on the DLTK project knows about the licensing issues surrounding
> JRuby, and releasing plug-ins through Eclipse that contain JRuby code.
>
> Specifically, what is the IP process for JRuby code? How do we manage
> the dependency on JRuby? Do we need to bundle JRuby as part of our
> feature, or should we depend on the DLTK project?
>
> Many thanks for any ideas you may have.

Ideally, I think you should speak with the Eclipse Foundation's legal
staff. The other option is to ask for advice of the Eclipse Architecture
Council (EAC). You can open a bug against the EAC seeking advice.

http://wiki.eclipse.org/Architecture_Council

We love to help.

Cheers,

Chris Aniszczyk | EclipseSource Austin | +1 860 839 2465
http://twitter.com/eclipsesource | http://twitter.com/caniszczyk
Re: Eclipse and JRuby licensing [message #38249 is a reply to message #38183] Mon, 08 June 2009 08:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Alex Panchenko is currently offline Alex PanchenkoFriend
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Hi,

DLTK uses only subset of JRuby classes (parser), the IP process for it
was covered by https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1137

I suppose you need new & full JRuby, so dependency on DLTK is not an
option here. Probably it makes sense to make jruby available from Orbit.

Regards,
Alex

Chris Aniszczyk wrote:
> Louis Rose wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Please forgive the off-topic post...
>>
>> I'm a committer on Epsilon, part of the GMT project. We're
>> contemplating developing some new plug-ins using JRuby. We were
>> wondering if anyone working on the DLTK project knows about the
>> licensing issues surrounding JRuby, and releasing plug-ins through
>> Eclipse that contain JRuby code.
>>
>> Specifically, what is the IP process for JRuby code? How do we manage
>> the dependency on JRuby? Do we need to bundle JRuby as part of our
>> feature, or should we depend on the DLTK project?
>>
>> Many thanks for any ideas you may have.
>
> Ideally, I think you should speak with the Eclipse Foundation's legal
> staff. The other option is to ask for advice of the Eclipse Architecture
> Council (EAC). You can open a bug against the EAC seeking advice.
>
> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Architecture_Council
>
> We love to help.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris Aniszczyk | EclipseSource Austin | +1 860 839 2465
> http://twitter.com/eclipsesource | http://twitter.com/caniszczyk
Re: Eclipse and JRuby licensing [message #38280 is a reply to message #38249] Mon, 08 June 2009 18:41 Go to previous message
Louis Rose is currently offline Louis RoseFriend
Messages: 440
Registered: July 2009
Location: York, United Kingdom
Senior Member
Hi Alex, Chris,

Great, thanks for your help. I'll contact the legal staff.

Thanks for the link to your IPzilla - that's most useful.

Cheers,
Louis.

Alex Panchenko wrote:
> Hi,
>
> DLTK uses only subset of JRuby classes (parser), the IP process for it
> was covered by https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1137
>
> I suppose you need new & full JRuby, so dependency on DLTK is not an
> option here. Probably it makes sense to make jruby available from Orbit.
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
> Chris Aniszczyk wrote:
>> Louis Rose wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Please forgive the off-topic post...
>>>
>>> I'm a committer on Epsilon, part of the GMT project. We're
>>> contemplating developing some new plug-ins using JRuby. We were
>>> wondering if anyone working on the DLTK project knows about the
>>> licensing issues surrounding JRuby, and releasing plug-ins through
>>> Eclipse that contain JRuby code.
>>>
>>> Specifically, what is the IP process for JRuby code? How do we manage
>>> the dependency on JRuby? Do we need to bundle JRuby as part of our
>>> feature, or should we depend on the DLTK project?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for any ideas you may have.
>>
>> Ideally, I think you should speak with the Eclipse Foundation's legal
>> staff. The other option is to ask for advice of the Eclipse
>> Architecture Council (EAC). You can open a bug against the EAC seeking
>> advice.
>>
>> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Architecture_Council
>>
>> We love to help.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Chris Aniszczyk | EclipseSource Austin | +1 860 839 2465
>> http://twitter.com/eclipsesource | http://twitter.com/caniszczyk
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