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Legal Obligations when including a JRE from JustJ [message #1841115] Tue, 04 May 2021 09:54 Go to next message
Florian Hoelzl is currently offline Florian HoelzlFriend
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First of all, thanks for the effort. Having control over the JRE, my application runs with,
and keeping it up to date is a real step forward.

I am a bit confused about the legal implications of including a JustJ bundle in my product.
The frontpage of JustJ states "fully-functional Java™ runtimes that can be redistributed by Eclipse Projects".
Does this mean my product cannot be closed source with a restrictive license, which I am selling to my clients, but has to be an official open-source project hosted with the Eclipse foundation?

Thanks a lot,
Florian
Re: Legal Obligations when including a JRE from JustJ [message #1841124 is a reply to message #1841115] Tue, 04 May 2021 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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I am not a lawyer so what I tell you is my opinion/understanding. If you want legal advice you'll need to ask a lawyer.

My understanding is that like the other things you get from Eclipse, you can use it in a commercial product however you see fit. The licenses are mostly about downloading something, changing it, and then redistributing the changed version without sharing the changes.

So no, the wording is not my attempt to be restrictive to "only Eclipse projects" it's just to let Eclipse projects know they can do this too.


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Re: Legal Obligations when including a JRE from JustJ [message #1841127 is a reply to message #1841124] Tue, 04 May 2021 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Florian Hoelzl is currently offline Florian HoelzlFriend
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Hi Ed, thanks for the answer.
I already expected the "I'm not a lawyer" disclaimer :-).

It seems to me the whole world avoids any specific answer about how to
redistribute a JRE, since the licensing changes with Java 11 two years ago.

Do you think, we could get Eclipse Foundations Legal Department involved
in order to clarify things here?

Best regards,
Florian

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Re: Legal Obligations when including a JRE from JustJ [message #1841130 is a reply to message #1841127] Tue, 04 May 2021 13:58 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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I think you should feel free to redistribute what you get from JustJ. Oracle is on the Eclipse Foundation Board of Directors and they are aware of and have approved of this use case . There's even this in the works:

https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/adoptium

But you should not expect to get legal advice from anyone other than your own lawyer..


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