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Question: the software items you selected may not be valid...bug? [message #333456] Thu, 11 December 2008 19:36 Go to next message
John J. Barton is currently offline John J. BartonFriend
Messages: 311
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
As requested in the bugzilla page, I am asking here first if this is a bug:

When I select Help > Software Updates > Available Software > Install for
testing my plugin install the UI popups up a dialog box:
-----------
Question: The software items you selected may not be valid with your
current installation. Do you want to open the wizard anyway to review
your selections?
Yes, No, Cancel.
------------

1) What is the difference between No and Cancel?

2) What "the wizard"? Why would I want a wizard? I don't believe there
is any wizard at all, this popup is simply erroneous.

3) If I select "yes" I do not get a wizard. I get an other popup dialog
whose only option is "Cancel"

4) This popup dialog says "Cannot complete the request. See the
details." But the point of the dialog is to give me the error message
(aka details) and 90% of the screen is not the error message.

5) The error message is not understandable in terms of the user
operation. The user selected "install" on a URL in the Available
Software. The error message makes no reference to that URL and no path
forward for users or developers. Our only choice is to whine in the
eclipse newsgroups.

Here are the details:
==============
Cannot complete the request. See the details.
Unsatisfied dependency: [org.eclipse.platform.ide 3.4.0.M20080911-1700]
requiredCapability:
org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.platform.feature.group /[3.4.1.r341_v20080731-9I96EiDElYevwz-p1bP5z-NlAaP7vtX6Utotq su,3.4.1.r341_v20080731-9I96EiDElYevwz-p1bP5z-NlAaP7vtX6Utot qsu]
==============
Nothing in this message mentions the install package or which portion of
the package in a problem. We need something like this:

Web Site Debugging With Firebug v 1.0.18 install fails:
while analyzing line 12 in MANIFEST.MF from com.ibm.etools....etc.jar
could satisfy Require-Bundle:
org.eclipse.ui.browser;bundle-version="3.2.301"
because it requires <dependence chain> org.eclipse.platform.ide
3.4.0.M20080911-1700

Is this something I should put in to bugzilla or not?

Thanks,
John.
Re: Question: the software items you selected may not be valid...bug? [message #333472 is a reply to message #333456] Fri, 12 December 2008 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: eclipse-news.rizzoweb.com

The p2 workflows are undergoing change, based on user feedback just like
yours. Check out
http://lenettoyeur-on-eclipse.blogspot.com/2008/10/reworked- p2-workflows.html

I don't think it is not too late to contribute your feedback through the
Bugzilla and wiki channels.

Eric


On 12/11/2008 2:36 PM, John J Barton wrote:
> As requested in the bugzilla page, I am asking here first if this is a bug:
>
> When I select Help > Software Updates > Available Software > Install for
> testing my plugin install the UI popups up a dialog box:
> -----------
> Question: The software items you selected may not be valid with your
> current installation. Do you want to open the wizard anyway to review
> your selections?
> Yes, No, Cancel.
> ------------
>
> 1) What is the difference between No and Cancel?
>
> 2) What "the wizard"? Why would I want a wizard? I don't believe there
> is any wizard at all, this popup is simply erroneous.
>
> 3) If I select "yes" I do not get a wizard. I get an other popup dialog
> whose only option is "Cancel"
>
> 4) This popup dialog says "Cannot complete the request. See the
> details." But the point of the dialog is to give me the error message
> (aka details) and 90% of the screen is not the error message.
>
> 5) The error message is not understandable in terms of the user
> operation. The user selected "install" on a URL in the Available
> Software. The error message makes no reference to that URL and no path
> forward for users or developers. Our only choice is to whine in the
> eclipse newsgroups.
>
> Here are the details:
> ==============
> Cannot complete the request. See the details.
> Unsatisfied dependency: [org.eclipse.platform.ide 3.4.0.M20080911-1700]
> requiredCapability:
> org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.platform.feature.group /[3.4.1.r341_v20080731-9I96EiDElYevwz-p1bP5z-NlAaP7vtX6Utotq su,3.4.1.r341_v20080731-9I96EiDElYevwz-p1bP5z-NlAaP7vtX6Utot qsu]
>
> ==============
> Nothing in this message mentions the install package or which portion of
> the package in a problem. We need something like this:
>
> Web Site Debugging With Firebug v 1.0.18 install fails:
> while analyzing line 12 in MANIFEST.MF from com.ibm.etools....etc.jar
> could satisfy Require-Bundle:
> org.eclipse.ui.browser;bundle-version="3.2.301"
> because it requires <dependence chain> org.eclipse.platform.ide
> 3.4.0.M20080911-1700
>
> Is this something I should put in to bugzilla or not?
>
> Thanks,
> John.
Re: Question: the software items you selected may not be valid...bug? [message #333474 is a reply to message #333472] Fri, 12 December 2008 16:05 Go to previous message
Andrew Niefer is currently offline Andrew NieferFriend
Messages: 990
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
There are plenty of bugs about the error messages being hard to read,
I'm sure another is not necessary :) There is going to be work done in
that area:
http://lenettoyeur-on-eclipse.blogspot.com/2008/12/genuitec- sat4j-and-p2.html

The other points 1 - 4 probably would make good bug reports, though you
may want to try a recent 3.5 build to see if things are better there.
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
Try 3.5M4 which is out in the next day or so. (I20081211-1908 is the
current candidate for promotion to M4).

-Andrew

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> The p2 workflows are undergoing change, based on user feedback just like
> yours. Check out
> http://lenettoyeur-on-eclipse.blogspot.com/2008/10/reworked- p2-workflows.html
>
>
> I don't think it is not too late to contribute your feedback through the
> Bugzilla and wiki channels.
>
> Eric
>
>
> On 12/11/2008 2:36 PM, John J Barton wrote:
>> As requested in the bugzilla page, I am asking here first if this is a
>> bug:
>>
>> When I select Help > Software Updates > Available Software > Install for
>> testing my plugin install the UI popups up a dialog box:
>> -----------
>> Question: The software items you selected may not be valid with your
>> current installation. Do you want to open the wizard anyway to review
>> your selections?
>> Yes, No, Cancel.
>> ------------
>>
>> 1) What is the difference between No and Cancel?
>>
>> 2) What "the wizard"? Why would I want a wizard? I don't believe there
>> is any wizard at all, this popup is simply erroneous.
>>
>> 3) If I select "yes" I do not get a wizard. I get an other popup dialog
>> whose only option is "Cancel"
>>
>> 4) This popup dialog says "Cannot complete the request. See the
>> details." But the point of the dialog is to give me the error message
>> (aka details) and 90% of the screen is not the error message.
>>
>> 5) The error message is not understandable in terms of the user
>> operation. The user selected "install" on a URL in the Available
>> Software. The error message makes no reference to that URL and no path
>> forward for users or developers. Our only choice is to whine in the
>> eclipse newsgroups.
>>
>> Here are the details:
>> ==============
>> Cannot complete the request. See the details.
>> Unsatisfied dependency: [org.eclipse.platform.ide 3.4.0.M20080911-1700]
>> requiredCapability:
>> org.eclipse.equinox.p2.iu/org.eclipse.platform.feature.group /[3.4.1.r341_v20080731-9I96EiDElYevwz-p1bP5z-NlAaP7vtX6Utotq su,3.4.1.r341_v20080731-9I96EiDElYevwz-p1bP5z-NlAaP7vtX6Utot qsu]
>>
>>
>> ==============
>> Nothing in this message mentions the install package or which portion of
>> the package in a problem. We need something like this:
>>
>> Web Site Debugging With Firebug v 1.0.18 install fails:
>> while analyzing line 12 in MANIFEST.MF from com.ibm.etools....etc.jar
>> could satisfy Require-Bundle:
>> org.eclipse.ui.browser;bundle-version="3.2.301"
>> because it requires <dependence chain> org.eclipse.platform.ide
>> 3.4.0.M20080911-1700
>>
>> Is this something I should put in to bugzilla or not?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John.
>
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