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Is it possible to not show the "Projects" and "Variables" page of the installer? [message #1728486] Mon, 04 April 2016 20:08 Go to next message
Taylor Abrahamson is currently offline Taylor AbrahamsonFriend
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I have a product model built with no project options and all variables set in the setup file, so both the "Projects" and "Variables" pages are empty when I run my installer. Is there a variable I can set to just hide those two screens during the setup process?

Thanks!
Re: Is it possible to not show the "Projects" and "Variables" pa [message #1728681 is a reply to message #1728486] Wed, 06 April 2016 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Taylor,

Comments below.

On 04.04.2016 22:08, Taylor Abrahamson wrote:
> I have a product model built with no project options and all variables
> set
Including the location at which to create the installation?
> in the setup file, so both the "Projects" and "Variables" pages are
> empty when I run my installer.
Perhaps you should be using the simple installer which doesn't include
these two pages...
> Is there a variable I can set to just hide those two screens during
> the setup process?
No, though my not just use the simple installer in this case?
>
> Thanks!
Re: Is it possible to not show the "Projects" and "Variables" pa [message #1728737 is a reply to message #1728681] Wed, 06 April 2016 19:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Taylor Abrahamson is currently offline Taylor AbrahamsonFriend
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I have come to the conclusion I should use the simple installer, however I have configured the installation.location variable to point to the location we want all developers to install their eclipse, but on the simple installation page, it doesn't show that value in the installation location drop down.

After clicking install, it correctly goes where the variable has set it to install, but it is confusing for our developers when the drop down on the installation page doesn't show where it will actually be installed. Is there a way I can get it to show the actual path for where it will be installed?

Thanks!
Re: Is it possible to not show the "Projects" and "Variables& [message #1728753 is a reply to message #1728737] Thu, 07 April 2016 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Taylor,

Comments below.

On 06.04.2016 21:07, Taylor Abrahamson wrote:
> I have come to the conclusion I should use the simple installer,
> however I have configured the installation.location variable to point
> to the location we want all developers to install their eclipse,
That seems a little unexpected but I suppose if that's what you want...
> but on the simple installation page, it doesn't show that value in the
> installation location drop down.
It's expecting to use the install.root variable, which is generally
stored in the user.setup once it's been set, and then compute the
installation.id based on the selected product's branding information...
> After clicking install, it correctly goes where the variable has set
> it to install, but it is confusing for our developers when the drop
> down on the installation page doesn't show where it will actually be
> installed. Is there a way I can get it to show the actual path for
> where it will be installed?
Not unless we change something to accommodate this unexpected scenario...

I wonder, do you want the user to have any choices at all?
>
> Thanks!
Re: Is it possible to not show the "Projects" and "Variables& [message #1729184 is a reply to message #1728753] Mon, 11 April 2016 21:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Taylor Abrahamson is currently offline Taylor AbrahamsonFriend
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Ed Merks wrote on Thu, 07 April 2016 06:00

> I have come to the conclusion I should use the simple installer,
> however I have configured the installation.location variable to point
> to the location we want all developers to install their eclipse,
That seems a little unexpected but I suppose if that's what you want...


Well, I guess what I would like to do is set a variable that will make the default location in the simple installers drop down be "D:/Program Files", and then if they choose to change it, they can. So I can I just change the install.root in my products variables then?

For background on my setup, I have placed my teams oomph installer on a shared drive. Anyone who needs to install eclipse can just go the shared location and start the installer exe from the shared drive. This would usually be installing eclipse onto a completely fresh installation of windows where the user hasn't ever installed eclipse before.
Re: Is it possible to not show the "Projects" and &quo [message #1729202 is a reply to message #1729184] Tue, 12 April 2016 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed MerksFriend
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Taylor,

Comments below.

On 11.04.2016 23:22, Taylor Abrahamson wrote:
> Ed Merks wrote on Thu, 07 April 2016 06:00
>> > I have come to the conclusion I should use the simple installer, >
>> however I have configured the installation.location variable to point
>> > to the location we want all developers to install their eclipse,
>> That seems a little unexpected but I suppose if that's what you want...
>
>
> Well, I guess what I would like to do is set a variable that will make
> the default location in the simple installers drop down be "D:/Program
> Files", and then if they choose to change it, they can. So I can I
> just change the install.root in my products variables then?
Does that really work though. In my experience Program Files causes all
kinds of problems. That folder is owned by admin and even if the user
has admin rights, it still tends to cause problems (because the home
folder of admin is not the same as the home folder of the user, so
confusion over where to put the bundle pool arises).
>
> For background on my setup, I have placed my teams oomph installer on
> a shared drive. Anyone who needs to install eclipse can just go the
> shared location and start the installer exe from the shared drive.
> This would usually be installing eclipse onto a completely fresh
> installation of windows where the user hasn't ever installed eclipse
> before.
Have you tested that this actually works? And the install.root variable
doesn't work?
Re: Is it possible to not show the "Projects" and &quo [message #1729512 is a reply to message #1729202] Thu, 14 April 2016 22:12 Go to previous message
Taylor Abrahamson is currently offline Taylor AbrahamsonFriend
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Well it does seem to be defaulting my bundlepool to my user folder, and everyone in my dev department has eclipse installed into Program Files so that doesn't seem to be causing any issues either.

I did try setting the install.root variable to D:/Program Files and it did not change the value in the drop down or even install to that directory, so I currently still have it set to use the installation.location variable. It's just confusing for the person running the installer because the value in the installation dropdown doesn't show where it's actually going to be installed. It just seems like if the installation.location variable is set by the setup file, then the basic installer should show that value and probably disable that drop down if it can't be changed. Seems like a decent use case to me. Would this be worthy of an enhancement request?

Also the installation.location variable does has a value and a default value. If just the default value is set, then maybe the drop down should show that value but be enabled to take any changes, and if the value is set, then the drop down should be disabled?

Thanks!
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