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Why is Eclipse windowing so weird? [message #1718941] Sun, 03 January 2016 00:20 Go to next message
John Bartleson is currently offline John BartlesonFriend
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I'd like to begin developing PHP using Eclipse. After downloading and getting through the usual Java problems, I started playing with the UI, but discovered so much windowing strangeness I'm wondering if I can use it at all:

1. I created a project with a few files, then decided to look at the Welcome window in the Help menu. The Welcome tab replaced the tabs for the project and I found I couldn't get back to my project files! The tabs were listed in the list at the end of the File menu, but selecting them did nothing. I had to close the Welcome tab to see my files again.

2. I couldn't find any menu item that would move the Welcome tab to a new window, so I tried dragging out the Welcome tab. This worked and created a new window with the Welcome content, but then the original window was empty except for a few icons in the corners. My project files appeared to be gone. Then I tried dragging the title bar of the original window. This made both the original window and the Welcome window move at the same time! In thirty years of using Macs I've never seen that happen!!!

3. Next I dragged the Welcome tab in the second window back to the original window. The Welcome content then displayed in the original window as before. If I then selected a file from the list, my project tabs appeared in the lower split window, as probably what should have happened in step 1 above.

At one point in playing around with this I even got a Java crash alert, which didn't help my confidence in Eclipse.

A. What am I doing wrong here?
B. Are others having similar problems?
C. Does this only happen on Mac OS?
D. Because I have multiple monitors, I prefer to have each file in a separate window, rather than using tabs. Is this against the philosophy of Eclipse?
E. Is there perhaps a tutorial on using tabs and windows in Eclipse?

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this.

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Mac OS 10.8.5 on Mac Pro. Eclipse for PHP Developers Mars.1 Release (4.5.1) Build id: 20150924-1200. Java 8 update 66.
Re: Why is Eclipse windowing so weird? [message #1718949 is a reply to message #1718941] Sun, 03 January 2016 14:14 Go to previous message
Tauno Voipio is currently offline Tauno VoipioFriend
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Registered: August 2014
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John Bartleson wrote on Sun, 03 January 2016 02:20
I'd like to begin developing PHP using Eclipse. After downloading and getting through the usual Java problems, I started playing with the UI, but discovered so much windowing strangeness I'm wondering if I can use it at all:

1. I created a project with a few files, then decided to look at the Welcome window in the Help menu. The Welcome tab replaced the tabs for the project and I found I couldn't get back to my project files! The tabs were listed in the list at the end of the File menu, but selecting them did nothing. I had to close the Welcome tab to see my files again.

2. I couldn't find any menu item that would move the Welcome tab to a new window, so I tried dragging out the Welcome tab. This worked and created a new window with the Welcome content, but then the original window was empty except for a few icons in the corners. My project files appeared to be gone. Then I tried dragging the title bar of the original window. This made both the original window and the Welcome window move at the same time! In thirty years of using Macs I've never seen that happen!!!

3. Next I dragged the Welcome tab in the second window back to the original window. The Welcome content then displayed in the original window as before. If I then selected a file from the list, my project tabs appeared in the lower split window, as probably what should have happened in step 1 above.

At one point in playing around with this I even got a Java crash alert, which didn't help my confidence in Eclipse.

A. What am I doing wrong here?
B. Are others having similar problems?
C. Does this only happen on Mac OS?
D. Because I have multiple monitors, I prefer to have each file in a separate window, rather than using tabs. Is this against the philosophy of Eclipse?
E. Is there perhaps a tutorial on using tabs and windows in Eclipse?

Thanks in advance for any light you can shed on this.

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Mac OS 10.8.5 on Mac Pro. Eclipse for PHP Developers Mars.1 Release (4.5.1) Build id: 20150924-1200. Java 8 update 66.


A. Nothing
B. No - as long as I know
C. Yes - and it should.
D. No problem - just pull the tabs out of the Eclipse window and move them to your heart's content.
E. Please read the Eclipse Workbench instructions in the Help files.

I had to try after you with OS X 10.9.5 and Mars.1. The main display area does get empty when you separate the Welcome window. This happens due to the fact that your perspective is minimized, it is behind the icon (see attachment). If you click the icon, you'll get your windows in the perspective back.

Hope this helps.




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