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Expired Eclipse Foundation Inc Certificate [message #1844766]

Fri, 24 September 2021 13:33

Scott Messner

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Registered: September 2021

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I'm trying to very generally update eclipse -- hoping to get the latest from 2021-09. However the process blocks with a Certificates Dialog asking me "Do you trust these certificates?". In the list there is one cert: "Eclipse Foundation\, Inc; Java Software Code Signing; Sun Microsystems Inc". When I open the "Details" dialog to check the certificate I can see that it is expired since April 25, 2020. Is this normal ? Should I be trusting expired certs just to upgrade Eclipse ?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Re: Expired Eclipse Foundation Inc Certificate [message #1844772 is a reply to message #1844766]

Fri, 24 September 2021 14:42

Ed Merks

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Yes, it's unfortunately normal that old bundles that don't change for a long time are not resigned. I generate a report for the repositories release train repositories:

https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/releases/2021-12/http___download.eclipse.org_releases_2021-09_202109151000.html

In that report you can see there are three bundles that use this certificate. The report doesn't include the validity dates which would be nice because then I would realize it's a bit problematic.

In any case, a securely signed jar doesn't become insecure on the day the certificate expires...

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Re: Expired Eclipse Foundation Inc Certificate [message #1844773 is a reply to message #1844772]

Fri, 24 September 2021 15:45

Scott Messner

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Re: Expired Eclipse Foundation Inc Certificate [message #1844774 is a reply to message #1844773]

Fri, 24 September 2021 15:51

Scott Messner

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Thank you Ed Merks,
That calms the majority of my worries. I'll resume my upgrade then!
Sub-question would be how the certs are used to imply validity -- anything I can read on the subject ? In any case, I'm assuming a malicious party can't acquire these expired certs and re-sign their own jar so we're good in that respect. Cheers.

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Re: Expired Eclipse Foundation Inc Certificate [message #1844845 is a reply to message #1844772]

Tue, 28 September 2021 01:48

Nitin Dahyabhai

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How's that report generated, Ed? Is it the kind of thing where someone could contribute that kind of functionality?

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Re: Expired Eclipse Foundation Inc Certificate [message #1844861 is a reply to message #1844845]

Tue, 28 September 2021 09:10

Ed Merks

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Registered: July 2009

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If you setup up the Oomph development environment https://ci.eclipse.org/oomph/ it's org.eclipse.oomph.p2.internal.core.RepositoryIntegrityAnalyzer. I have to confess that it's a bit of a monstrosity though...

If I didn't make a mistake, it seems a great many bundles are old and have signatures with expired certificates:

https://download.eclipse.org/oomph/archive/reports/download.eclipse.org/releases/2021-12/http___download.eclipse.org_releases_2021-09_202109151000.html

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