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I think the direction of eclipse is wrong. Its features were good enough since Europa. Please make eclipse faster and stable. No more features or changes. People needs IDE that works.
]]>Youngrok Pak2012-08-30T19:32:46-00:00Re: Please stop adding features.
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I've not had any problems with copy & paste or redo. In which editors
do you have such problems?
On 30/08/2012 9:33 PM, Youngrok Pak wrote:
> Eclipse is getting slower as it upgrades. It is much slower than 5
> years ago even though it doesn't have better features. What is worse,
> there are tons of bugs in fundamental features like copy & paste or
> undo & redo.
>
> I think the direction of eclipse is wrong. Its features were good
> enough since Europa. Please make eclipse faster and stable. No more
> features or changes. People needs IDE that works.]]>Ed Merks2012-08-30T20:00:03-00:00Re: Please stop adding features.
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Youngrok Pak2012-08-31T04:42:38-00:00Re: Please stop adding features.
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refer specifically? You're sure bugzilla reports are open for them?
On 31/08/2012 6:42 AM, Youngrok Pak wrote:
> 4.2 on Mac. Previous versions don't have such bugs.]]>Ed Merks2012-08-31T04:47:44-00:00Re: Please stop adding features.
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Also 3.8 should theoretically perform better and not very differently from previous releases. 4.x performance issues will be addressed in the second service release 4.2.2. ]]>2012-08-31T05:31:46-00:00Re: Please stop adding features.
https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/371184/905991/#msg_905991
Also, if we are going to fix anything, we need to know what to fix. Even if you find things that just arent quite right, submit a bug (like Bug 388513). How are we supposed to fix that which is broken from "is getting slower."
JD
btw- In case you were concerned, we are well aware of the performance problems and are working to find the cause.]]>Joseph Carroll2012-08-31T12:26:56-00:00Re: Please stop adding features.
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Every eclipse users know that the version up of eclipse means slower eclipse. Don't say that please, 3.8 or 3.7 is fast enough. That's not true.
I think eclipse guys are avoiding the truth. Many Java programmers are leaving eclipse. Try google "eclipse slow", "I hate eclipse", "eclipse sucks".
Admit that. Eclipse is not reliable, and is not fast enough to use.
]]>Youngrok Pak2012-09-03T19:53:09-00:00Re: Please stop adding features.
https://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php/mv/msg/371184/907375/#msg_907375
If it's about direction than your suggestion to leave Eclipse as it was in Europa's time doesn't make sense.
The 4.x stream is two months old (in official use), the 3.x has lots of years of performance and improvements and it went to a point that the growing complexity was impossible to maintain with the resources available. The 4.x was envisioned and turned out to be really easy to maintain and fix. This came with a performance impact (as fed back from the community) that will be addressed as I said starting with the second (ever) 4.x SR.
In OS the rule is simple: those who committ, decide. Those who committ listen to and aggregate the community concerns(as you are being patiently listened now by two committers and a contributor) before deciding, but still they decide.
Now if your best interest is for Eclipse to be better, then provide some details what doesn't work for you specifically and ideally submit some related bugs on Platform/UI. General (already acknowledged) performance remarks won't help Eclipse to be better, the final goal of us folks hanging around the forums.]]>2012-09-03T21:48:30-00:00