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[wtp-dev] Minutes of the WTP Status Telecon, 2006-01-26


See WTP Status Telecons [1] for more information.

[1] http://eclipse.org/webtools/development/status-telecons/index.html


Attendees:

Amy Wu
Arthur Ryman
Chris Brealey
Chuck Bridgham
Craig Salter
David Klein
David Williams
Der-Ping Chou
Jeffrey Liu
John Lanuti
Kathy Chan
Kosta Komissarchik
Larry Dunnell
Larry Isaacs
Naci Dai
Nitin Dahyabhai
Paul Meijer
Phil Avery
Rob Frost
Sheila Sholars
Steve Francisco
Ted Bashor
Tim deBoer
Tim Wagner

Minutes


1. Actions Items - Arthur Ryman

Active Items


The following actions items showed some activity last week. [1] Thx!

114446 nor P3 cbridgha@xxxxxxxxxx NEW jst.j2ee 1.5 M4 [action] Open API requests for non-API usages in WTP
114914 nor P3 syeshin@xxxxxxxxxx CLOS document --- [action] Post some examples of what not to do for context...
115133 nor P3 david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx CLOS Web Stan --- [action] Discuss WTP migration with the PMC
115149 nor P3 jeffliu@xxxxxxxxxx CLOS releng 1.0 M10 [action] We need to start doing scalability testings
122833 nor P3 jeffliu@xxxxxxxxxx NEW releng 1.0.1 M101 [action] Improve Test Automation
124568 nor P3 ryman@xxxxxxxxxx ASSI website 1.5 M5 [action] WTP 1.5 Milestone Plans are not Consistent


6 bugs found.

Open Items

The following action items are currently open [2]. These items were reviewed and bugzilla was updated accordingly.


113137 nor P3 kosta@xxxxxxx jeffliu@xxxxxxxxxx NEW jst.j2ee 1.5 M6 [action] Create a tutorial document for facets
114446 nor P3 cbridgha@xxxxxxxxxx jeffliu@xxxxxxxxxx NEW jst.j2ee 1.5 M5 [action] Open API requests for non-API usages in WTP
122187 nor P3 naci.dai@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ryman@xxxxxxxxxx NEW releng 1.0.1 M101 [action] Generate reports of fixed bugs from CVS commit c...
122833 nor P3 jeffliu@xxxxxxxxxx ryman@xxxxxxxxxx NEW releng 1.0.1 M101 [action] Improve Test Automation
123697 nor P3 kosta@xxxxxxx ryman@xxxxxxxxxx NEW wst.comm --- [action] Create a written smoke test for Facets.
123703 nor P3 jkrause@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ryman@xxxxxxxxxx NEW website --- [action] Start Requirements Meetings for WTP 1.5
124568 nor P3 ryman@xxxxxxxxxx ryman@xxxxxxxxxx ASSI website 1.5 M5 [action] WTP 1.5 Milestone Plans are not Consistent


7 bugs found.

[1] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=casesubstring&short_desc=%5Baction%5D&product=Web+Tools&chfieldfrom=2006-01-19&chfieldto=2006-01-26
[2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=casesubstring&short_desc=%5Baction%5D&product=Web+Tools&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED

2. WTP 1.5 Status

2.1) WTP 1.5 Build Status - David Williams

David - We have an I-build but XSD fails the smoke test.

Craig - Keith Chong is investigating the XSD validatior failure. It may be due to a misspelled plug-in id.

David - Everyone else should post smoke results asap.

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2.2) WTP 1.5 Hot Bug Status [1] - Jeffrey Liu

Jeffrey - Let's skip this to save time for the WTP 1.0.1 discussion.

95903 enh P2 kchong@xxxxxxxxxx max.andersen@xxxxxxxxx NEW wst.xml 1.5 M5 XML Catalog extension points should support locations wit...
107311 maj P2 david_williams@xxxxxxxxxx jljlmatu@xxxxxxxxxx NEW wst.sse 1.5 M5 IStructuredModel#save(IFile) for SaveAs causes a ghost file
108392 maj P2 nagrawal@xxxxxxxxxx raul.fernandez@patagonia-te... NEW J2EE Sta 1.5 M5 WTP wizards sometimes fail to start
111545 nor P2 deboer@xxxxxxxxxx marshall.culpepper@xxxxxxxxx NEW jst.serv 1.5 M6 Seperation of Server and Runtime is causing problems
115892 maj P2 kosta@xxxxxxx jspitman@xxxxxxxxxx NEW wst.comm 1.5 M6 Need Auto-selection of facet dependencies
118251 nor P2 nitind@xxxxxxxxxx spaxton@xxxxxxxxxx NEW jst.jsp 1.5 M5 update problem with TaglibIndex when adding new jar
118493 enh P2 nagrawal@xxxxxxxxxx max.andersen@xxxxxxxxx NEW wst.vali 1.5 M5 global validation preferences should be valid for all pro...
121153 nor P2 jlanuti@xxxxxxxxxx balakuma@xxxxxxxxxx NEW jst.j2ee 1.5 M5 Unlinked ejb references are incorrectly filtered.
121583 min P2 gercan@xxxxxxx glory@xxxxxxxxxx NEW jst.serv 1.5 M5 Inconvenient error message when creating new server
123595 nor P2 pavery@xxxxxxxxxx ishaikovsky@xxxxxxxxxx NEW wst.xml 1.5 M5 Opening xml from jar causes exception.
123596 nor P2 wst-inbox@xxxxxxxxxxx ishaikovsky@xxxxxxxxxx NEW Web Stan 1.5 M5 Exception while adding server. WebLogic.
123600 nor P2 wst-inbox@xxxxxxxxxxx ishaikovsky@xxxxxxxxxx NEW Web Stan 1.5 M5 Exception While Canceling Building.
123941 nor P2 wst.sse-inbox@xxxxxxxxxxx ishaikovsky@xxxxxxxxxx NEW wst.sse 1.5 M5 Content assist and some formater actions can be Undone on...

13 bugs found.

2.3) WTP 1.5 Planning Update - Tim Wagner

The PMC reviewed the WTP 1.5 plan. The draft plan [2] needs to be finalized.

TimW - The plan has been revised on the wiki [3]. We are trying to make sure it accurately reflects reality. We need to focus on quality and stability. We will begin support for Java EE 5 by shipping the JSF and Dali Features. For Eclipse 3.2 currency, we will migrate to the new Common Navigator and Undo/Redo framework. If time permits then we will include other feature work, e.g. Web Service spec currency. Send me comments on the plan, or update the wiki directly, but keep the PMC informed of edits. Let's list any other large work items in the plan even if they are being treated as Bugzilla defects.

Chris - I'll comment on Web Service spec currency. We want to focus on stability and quality. JSR 181 is a stretch item and we'll continue to investigate Beehive. However, there is currently no Bugzilla RFE and no other details, i.e. we don't understand the true requirements at this point in time.

TimW - Let's list the new spec revisions, e.g. WSDL 2.0, as optional items in the WTP 1.5 plan.

Chris - We need to expand on the content of the line items, i.e. just listing a spec revision isn't enough detail.

TimW - OK, let's continue this discussion offline.

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/1.5/adopter-hotlist-report.html

[2] http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/requirements/wtp_1_5_plan.html

[3] http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Web_Tools_Requirements_1.5


1. WTP 1.0.1 Status
Reminder - WTP 1.0.1 shutdown starts when Eclipse 3.1.2 is released, ETA January 31. Shutdown will run for at least 2 weeks. Only stop-ship bugs will be approved during shutdown. Hot bugs should be fixed asap, prior to shutdown.

1.1) WTP 1.0.1 Build Status - David Williams

David - The M-builds are going fine after a brief regression last week. We are switching the 1.0.1 builds to the new qualifier-based plug-in ids..  We will move to Eclipse 3.1.2 asap since it has now been released.

Kathy - I have a question about the qualifiers. Should we use UTC in tagging for the qualifiers?

David - That's optional but it is a good convention.

Arthur - Are you recommending that as the WTP practice?

David - Yes.

Arthur - Let's discuss this now and adopt at as a standard practice then.

Kosta - Where do you get an accurate UTC time?

David - There is a Web site [1].

Arthur - So you use the UTC time that for CVS tag which becomes the plug-in id qualifier. Are there any questions or objections?

All - None

[resolution] Use UTC time for the CVS tag.

[1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/personal.html

1.2) WTP 1.0.1 Hot Bug Status [1] - Jeffrey Liu

Jeffrey reviewed this list. See bugzilla for more details.

115327 cri P2 tbashor@xxxxxxx deboer@xxxxxxxxxx NEW wst.comm 1.0.1 M101 Facet/runtime changes don't cascade to child projects
116783 nor P2 deboer@xxxxxxxxxx igorfie@xxxxxxxxx NEW wst.serv 1.0.1 M101 External JARs are missing from deployed webapps
117265 nor P2 lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx lmandel@xxxxxxxxxx ASSI wst.wsdl 1.0.1 M101 WSDL validation slow when validating large workspace
117529 maj P2 deboer@xxxxxxxxxx jillm@xxxxxxx NEW wst.serv 1.0.1 M101 Debug Last Launched command doesn't work on basic Web App
119699 maj P3 cbridgha@xxxxxxxxxx rfrost@xxxxxxx NEW wst.comm 1.0.1 M101 Errors attempting to alter source-path for existing wb-re...
120754 cri P2 deboer@xxxxxxxxxx rfrost@xxxxxxx NEW wst.serv 1.0.1 M101 ServerUtils.modifyModules() needs to be able to remove mo...
122667 cri P3 kosta@xxxxxxx kosta@xxxxxxx ASSI wst.comm 1.0.1 M101 WTP project wizards should not change perspective or allo...
124024 maj P3 jlanuti@xxxxxxxxxx searle@xxxxxxxxxx NEW jst.j2ee 1.0.1 M101 import EAR does not set facets based on runtime specified
124220 cri P2 sinan.konya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx danjou@xxxxxxxxxx REOP jst.serv 1.0.1 M101 Publish to Websphere 6 fails with 1.0.1 driver
124292 maj P2 deboer@xxxxxxxxxx rfrost@xxxxxxx NEW wst.serv 1.0.1 M101 Issues with IModules returned from ServerUtil.getModule(I...
124728 cri P2 deboer@xxxxxxxxxx danjou@xxxxxxxxxx NEW wst.serv 1.0.1 M101 WTP 1.0.1 publishing testcase problems


11 bugs found.

Arthur - Let's discuss the release schedule for WTP 1.0.1. Will all Hot Bugs be in this Monday's build?

Chris - Maybe.

Chuck - Maybe

Craig - Maybe

Arthur - Sounds like we need one more week. Let's make the following Monday, 2006-02-06, the cutoff date for the Hot Bugs.

TimW - We should also defer incoming Hot Bugs to the next release, ie. 1.5 or perhaps 1.0.2.

Arthur - Agreed. We'll assess the need for a 1.0.2 based on adopter requirements. They may want to move to 1.5 instead.

1.3) WTP 1.0.1 WST Bug Triage [2] - Arthur Ryman

Arthur reviewed the current list of bugs targetted for 1.0.1. See Bugzilla for comments.


1.4) WTP 1.0.1 JST Bug Triage [3] - Naci Dai

Naci reviewed the current list of bugs targetted for 1.0.1 [4]. See Bugzilla for comments.

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/plans/1.0.1/adopter-hotlist-report.html

[2] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?classification=WebTools&product=Web+Tools&component=website&component=wst.command&component=wst.common&component=wst.css&component=wst.dtd&component=wst.html&component=wst.internet&component=wst._javascript_&component=wst.rdb&component=wst.server&component=wst.sse&component=wst.validation&component=wst.web&component=wst.ws&component=wst.wsdl&component=wst.wsi&component=wst.xml&component=wst.xsd&target_milestone=1.0.1+M101&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED

[3] https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?classification=WebTools&product=Web+Tools&component=documentation&component=FAQ&component=J2EE+Standard+Tools&component=jst.ejb&component=jst.j2ee&component=jst.jsp&component=jst.server&component=jst.servlet&component=jst.ws&component=releng&target_milestone=1.0.1+M101&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED

[4] http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/wtp-dev/msg03392.html

3. Other Business - Open

No other business discussed.


Arthur Ryman,
IBM Software Group, Rational Division

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