From: Janet Campbell
[mailto:janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:57 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'; 'Sharon Corbett'
Cc: antonin.pokorny@xxxxxxxxxxxx; frank.schroeder@xxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Bjorn
Freeman-Benson'; mike.milinkovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Further Questions Re: Subversion
Hi Igor,
In light of the GPL content in the package you wish to distribute,
we won’t be able to host the code on Eclipse’s servers. We have
reviewed the requirement however under our Third
Party Dependency guidelines recently approved by the Board, and you have
EMO approval to “pre-req” the code. This means that the code would be
hosted elsewhere and that the user would be prompted to download the code
themselves. Note that in doing the implementation, it is important that
you prominently display the following notice:
Please
note that the use of the software you are about to access may be subject to
third party terms and conditions and you are responsible for abiding by such
terms and conditions.
If you have any additional questions, please let us know.
Best regards,
Janet Campbell
Phone: +1.613.224.9461, x.229 (GMT -5)
Fax: +1.613.224.5172
janet.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxx
From: Igor Vinnykov
[mailto:igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:45 AM
To: 'Sharon Corbett'; 'Janet Campbell'
Cc: antonin.pokorny@xxxxxxxxxxxx; frank.schroeder@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Further Questions Re: Subversion
Hello Sharon,
I want to mention also that
Neon, which is supposed to be a part of libsvnjavahl-1.dll, has GPL
License. So let’s define all licenses types, which help us to make a right
decision.
Licenses list:
Subversion: CollabNet License
http://subversion.tigris.org/license-1.html
Apache Portable Runtime project:
Apache License http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
Berkley DB: Oracle Open
License http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/berkeley-db/htdocs/oslicense.html
OpenSSL: Apache-style license
http://www.openssl.org/about/ (but
at the same time there are references to GPL http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#LEGAL1)
Neon: GPL
License http://www.webdav.org/neon/
LibIntl: GPL
License http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
From: Sharon
Corbett [mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 6:01 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'; 'Janet Campbell'
Cc: antonin.pokorny@xxxxxxxxxxxx; frank.schroeder@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Further Questions Re: Subversion
Thanks Igor for your quick
review and confirmation.
To recap our current status based on our emails and telephone calls
over the last two days: Your project requires the following third party
packages:
§ Subversion
1.4.4 from Tigris (Collabnet) (specifically libsvnjavahl-1.dll and other native
source code for wrappers) and the following external third party packages to
Subversion:
§ Apache
Portable Runtime project (libapr.dll, libapriconv.dll) – are
parts of the http://apr.apache.org/
(CQ will be required)
§ Berkeley
DB project (libdb44.dll) –http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/index.html
(CQ will be required)
§ OpenSSL
(libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll) – are parts of OpenSSL project, http://www.openssl.org/ (CQ will be
required)
§ Neon - http://www.webdav.org/neon/ (CQ will be
required)
§ intl3_svn.dll – GPL
Licensed - http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libintl.htm
Since the intl3_svn.dll is GPL
licensed only, it is not compatible with the EPL as we discussed this
morning. Therefore, I am copying Janet in order that we discuss next
steps with her.
Thanks,
Sharon
From: Igor Vinnykov
[mailto:igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 10:04 AM
To: 'Sharon Corbett'
Subject: RE: Further Questions Re: Subversion
Hello Sharon,
Yes, a Zip file which you
referenced contains exactly the same version of intl3_svn.dll, which we include
to the Subversive.
As far as I understand, a ZIP
file distributed from Subversion site, contains patched version of original
libintl, available here: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/libintl.htm.
This project comes with the GNU license (http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/).
It’s a pity, because this
library is used only for multi-language support, i.e. not for the core
functionality…
An update to my previous e-mail:
I evaluated size of DLL files and not think that libsvnjavahl-1.dll contains
not only subversion-1.4.4.zip\subversion-1.4.4\subversion\bindings\java\javahl\native,
but also the other code from subversion-1.4.4.zip\subversion-1.4.4\subversion.
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
From: Sharon
Corbett [mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 4:46 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'
Subject: RE: Further Questions Re: Subversion
Hi Igor:
Can you please check this URL and the following download and see if it relates
to intl3_svn.dll. The code in this zip file appears to be under
GPL.
http://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=2627&expandFolder=2627&folderID=7495
Zip File - svn-win32-libintl.zip
Thanks,
Sharon
From: Igor Vinnykov
[mailto:igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 8:58 AM
To: 'Sharon Corbett'
Cc: Pokorny, Antonin; 'Schroeder, Frank'
Subject: RE: Further Questions Re: Subversion
Hello Sharon,
I made a few investigations
regarding the build process for Subversion. In particular I found useful
discussion http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2004-04/0034.shtml,
which puts a light to the used external resources. In particular I found that
some of DLL’s which we distribute, are parts of external projects, not the
Subversion itself.
libapr.dll, libapriconv.dll
– are parts of the Apache Portable Runtime project, http://apr.apache.org/
libdb44.dll – Is a
Berkeley DB project, http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/berkeley-db/index.html
libeay32.dll and ssleay32.dll
– are parts of OpenSSL project, http://www.openssl.org/
libsvnjavahl-1.dll – as
far as I understand were built from subversion-1.4.4.zip\subversion-1.4.4\subversion\bindings\java\javahl\native,
i.e. part of Subversion source code
intl3_svn.dll – as
far as I understand is the Subversion itself, build from Subversion source code
Another topic – these libraries
probably use other libraries, like for example Subversion (intl3_svn.dll) is
supposed Neon library (http://www.webdav.org/neon/)
usage. It will be very hard to investigate all these dependencies simply
because we don’t know how these libraries are organized and what external
resources are used. What we should do with this? Let’s discuss in scope of the
planned call.
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
From: Sharon
Corbett [mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 11:15 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'
Subject: Further Questions Re: Subversion
Hi Igor:
I have a couple of outstanding questions regarding CQ 1597….In CQ
1542 you identified the following external libs:
#5. Subversion for Win32 DLL files, located at
org.eclipse.team.svn.zip\org.eclipse.team.svn.client.javahl.win32:
- intl3_svn.dll
- libapr.dll, license:
org.eclipse.team.svn.zip\org.eclipse.team.svn.client.javahl.win32\APR-LICENSE
- libapriconv.dll, license:
org.eclipse.team.svn.zip\org.eclipse.team.svn.client.javahl.win32\APR-ICONV-LICENSE
- libaprutil.dll, license:
org.eclipse.team.svn.zip\org.eclipse.team.svn.client.javahl.win32\APR-UTIL-LICENSE
- libdb44.dll, license:
org.eclipse.team.svn.zip\org.eclipse.team.svn.client.javahl.win32\BDB-LICENSE
- libeay32.dll
- libsvnjavahl-1.dll, license:
org.eclipse.team.svn.zip\org.eclipse.team.svn.client.javahl.win32\JAVAHL-LICENSE
- ssleay32.dll, license:
org.eclipse.team.svn.zip\org.eclipse.team.svn.client.javahl.win32\OPENSSL-LICENSE
Can you please confirm that all the source code for each of the
above are contained in the attachment you provided. I am having trouble
matching up the files with the source and am wondering if I need to gain
distributions of these separately? It seems that int13 is available on
the Subversion website as a separate download?
Also, when I extracted the code provided for CQ 1597, I am having
difficulty with the path you advised to pay attention to regarding native
source code.
Generally you can start from that points:
* subversion-1.4.4.zip\subversion-1.4.4\subversion - native source code (for
DLLs)
If you feel it best we can have a quick Skype call again on
Wednesday morning at 9 am again to discuss if easier. Thanks for
your help.
Regards,
Sharon
From: Sharon Corbett
[mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:11 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'
Cc: 'Pokorny, Antonin'; 'Schroeder, Frank'; 'Janet Campbell'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hi Igor:
Thanks. I’m working through the CQs right now and have just
provided the “check into cvs” regarding the EPL portion of the
code as attached on CQ 1542. You will need to see “check into cvs”
for each CQ before you can check the code into the Eclipse Repository. We
realize you are waiting on CQ 1597 as well and I will do my best to get some
answers for you on this today/tomorrow as well but you will not be able to
check the third party code from CQ 1597 into the repository until you see the
“check into cvs”.
Regards,
Sharon
From: Igor Vinnykov
[mailto:igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:36 PM
To: 'Sharon Corbett'
Cc: 'Pokorny, Antonin'; 'Schroeder, Frank'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hello Sharon,
Thank you for detailed call
summary.
I have performed required
actions – please see CQ 1542, 1610, 1611, 1612. During the submission I got
IPZilla error, which caused by problems with e-mail notifications sending, so I
want to confirm task completion by this e-mail.
I have one question regarding CQ
1597. Do we need to wait this item marking by “check into CVS” in order to
commit related binaries? For example, if you will accept our EPL contribution
(CQ 1542) and other libraries (CQ 1610, 1611, 1612) soon, but CQ 1597 will be
in pending state, can we transfer and commit entire project (including binaries
from 1597) to the Eclipse repository?
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
From: Sharon
Corbett [mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 4:45 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hi Igor: Thanks for your time this morning. As per our
conversation, if you can help us with the following items that would be great:
Regarding CQ 1542 - EPL:
1. Provide new attachment with EPL only
code. As soon as you do that, we can go ahead and provide the project
with check into cvs status as your project is conforming to
Incubation and as such is eligible for Parallel IP. As discussed, we must
review EPL code and Third Party Code separately which is the reason for the
changes on this CQ.
2. Then enter three new CQs as follows:
a.
One CQ
for Javamail - mail.api version 1.4 – no need to attach source code as
you confirmed you have updated to this version we have approved for Eclipse
b.
One CQ
for Javamail– activation.jar 1.1 – no need to attach source code as you confirmed
you have updated to this version we have approved for Eclipse
c. One CQ for SMTP.jar – I do not believe the
source for this jar was reviewed with mail.api or activation.jar….therefore,
please attach source code and application license and download information on
this CQ.
Regarding CQ 1597 – Third Party:
1. Thank you for clarifying that your project
requires only the native source for DLL’s as well as Java HL. As we
discussed, Subversion itself refers to other third party external libraries and
provides code that indicates Ruby SWIG, Phyton, LibTool, Neon, etc may be
contained in the code as well. Therefore, I will take a look at the
directories you have advised and try to determine if indeed any other third
party packages to Subversion are in use and if so will need your help to
determine if your project will need them for Eclipse distribution. If it
turns out that you will then, you will need to enter new CQs as applicable to
cover those third party packages as well. This will also help us determine
if this package as well meets the check into cvs criteria.
Again, it was nice meeting you this morning. Please feel free
to contact me at any time if you would like to discuss any issues or have any
questions.
Regards,
Sharon
From: Igor Vinnykov
[mailto:igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:33 AM
To: 'Sharon Corbett'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hello Sharon,
Thank you. I’m waiting for the
call.
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
From: Sharon
Corbett [mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:31 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Thanks. I’ve just added you as a Skype Contact. I’ll
try the call on Skype at 9 am and see if the connection will be good for our
purpose.
Regards,
Sharon
From: Igor Vinnykov
[mailto:igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 3:26 AM
To: 'Sharon Corbett'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hello Sharon,
It will be good to have this
call – it will be the most effective way to push things forward. Proposed time
is OK for me, so I will wait for your call.
You can reach me by following
phones:
+38-057-715-6584 (landline,
Ukraine)
+38-050-149-6157 (my mobile, Ukraine)
I also use the Skype (name:
i.vinnykov), so we can have a free Skype call instead of phone call.
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
From: Sharon
Corbett [mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 7:46 PM
To: 'Igor Vinnykov'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hi Igor:
Thanks for your email. Once again our apologies on the delay
you have experienced. I have just returned from vacation and have some
questions relating to some of your responses on the applicable bugs concerning
third party code and licenses.
Would you be available to have a telephone conversation with me so
that together we can cover off all outstanding questions/issues in order to
assist you in moving forward with this contribution as it pertains to the IP
Process? Are you available at 9 am EST tomorrow Tuesday, July 17th
which I believe is 4 pm your time on Tuesday? If so, please let me know
which would be the best number to reach you on?
Regards,
Sharon
From: Igor Vinnykov
[mailto:igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:25 AM
To: 'Sharon Corbett'
Cc: 'Janet Campbell'; 'Anne Jacko'; Schroeder, Frank; 'Pokorny, Antonin'
Subject: RE: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hello Sharon,
I congratulate all of us with
Eclipse 3.3 release. Does it mean that now you will have a time to work on the
Subversive Parallel IP? I have updated our request https://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1542
and provided reference to used libraries. Do you have all required information
now? Please let me know.
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
From: Sharon
Corbett [mailto:sharon.corbett@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 5:31 PM
To: igor.vinnykov@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Janet Campbell'; 'Anne Jacko'
Subject: FW: Parallel IP Process for the Subversive project
Hi
Igor: Our apologies. We have been totally focused on Europa IP
requests only. As soon
as the IP/Project Log reviews are completed for the release, we will return our
focus to requests for Parallel IP.
Thanks for your patience. We should be able to get back to
you in a few days.
Regards,
Sharon
Sharon Corbett
Intellectual Property Analyst
Eclipse Foundation Inc.
Date: June 6, 2007
6:47:08 AM PDT
Subject: Parallel IP
Process for the Subversive project
Hello,
Time ago I initiated IP process
for the Subversive project by submitting item to IPZillahttp://dev.eclipse.org/ipzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1542. In this request I mentioned that we require parallel
IP process. I got the response that from Eclipse point of view project conform
requirements to start Parallel IP process.
Could you let us know what will
be the next steps? As far as I understand from process description, we should
wait preliminary approval for committing the source code to the repository. The
actual question now – when we can expect to have it? It’s important to know,
because we want to transfer project from its previous location at Polarion.org
to the new location at the eclipse.org and make scheduled release. If by some
reason we should wait for approval then we will make project release on
previous location, otherwise it makes sense to do it on the eclipse.org. Please
let us know the status with approval, because we should update our plan
accordingly.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov
Subversive Team
