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Possible relationship to ATF so should stay aware.
Very interesting discussion with many points expressed. Server View and Installable Runtimes are two other possible (future) "common" components.
Immediate action is to note the glitch in the process already and simply note that there are concerns about moving it out of WTP that would have to be worked-trough and addressed. Additionally, we all wondered why it was that it could not stay in the WTP Commons project, was it just the name? WTP specific processes?
[Just by coincidence, I was on another call with Konstantin later in the day and he added a few other bits of information that partially answer these. One was that he doesn't view this as "moving" but simply "incubating" something new in the Technology project, and once it graduates from there, then it might find a new home (in theory, for example, Platform, Tools...). Another was that he believes "if in WTP then no one will adopt (even if packaged separately)". That's kind'a sad!? and/or I do not understand how Technology would be any better.]
We all agreed it is important of use as the WTP PMC to foster the evolution of Eclipse, while at the same time ensuring the business interests of WTP.
Dali _might_ use for Entity generation. It could use Velocity templates, instead of .JET as it currently does. We asked if the EMF's modeling's model-to-text components might offer an eclipse-based solution? (i.e. their jet2 be used instead? (we're not sure if "jet2" is correct name)).
We concluded there was no obvious reason to object outright, but any contribution which pulls in further dependencies would get extra scrutiny, and that this PMC discussion today, by itself, does not mean it's "accepted" of course ... just that we would not object a priori.
Please review: Resource Page Proposal
Naci was approached (and countered) with some proposed articles for Eclipse (online) magazine [need link. only one I found last published in 2007?] Naci will invite authors for a series of articles for "WTP Uncovered":
Naci updated us today: Publisher would like all articles in one issue (for an issued focused on WTP). Online version would be in English. Print version would be translated to German. They'd like one overview article less than 20,000 words, and 4 shorter, but more focused article on specific areas, each less than 10,000 words
Naci will have some Eductation site/materials ready next week.
New Bugzilla component created: "Education".
We will publish education materials under Creative Commons -- Attribution Share Alike but still EPL for sample code, examples and snippets.
Planning Process Document has been started.
Eclipse-level dates and requirements have been clarified in a Planning Council message (and elsewhere).
Raghu's Preliminary Note (to PMC PLs)
As you all know, we need to create the project plan for WTP-Galileo in the standard project plan format provided by the Foundation. We also need to create a plan for each subproject. So I have created the first cut of the plan for most of the active subprojects in WTP.
I need you to update the projectplanurl field for your project from the Eclipse Portal. For help, see the HOWTO/Project_Meta-Data. I don't have the permission to update this for all the subprojects. Once you do that, you can view the plan by going to the standard home for your project, For example, see the one for webtools as a whole, scroll down to the Project Plan section and click on the link that says, "pending standard form".
I would appreciate if you could try this and report your findings at the PMC call tomorrow. I (and David) have had mixed experiences in viewing this file and hence I want you to test it out before I mail this to all the other leads.
Following are the URLs to use for each of the subprojects:
For the community to consume, I am hoping I can aggregate the plans to one plan.
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Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.
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