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WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for May 27, 2008 Conference Call

WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for May 27, 2008 Conference Call

Call Info

Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030
Alternate: 770-615-1247
Access code: 800388#
Full list of phone numbers

Call Time: 1500 UTC


PMC Members

  • David Williams: Y
  • Naci Dai: Y
  • Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y
  • Neil Hauge: Y
  • Tim deBoer: Y
  • Kaloyan Raev Y

Announcements and General Business

  • Next Tuesday, at 11:00 is "video production meeting" ... ok to skip PMC meeting? Or reschedule?
  • e4 Trip Report?

Reports, Actions, Issues

Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan

Requirements Document is done?

We need Draft release plan, in standard format, for next years release by June (See see bug 215301).
Raghu to lead, and propose an alternative or two. Rumor has it that the June deadline was to have a standard format decided, and the "infrastructure" in place to roll them up into a single roadmap document. The "real" plan is expected by September. My understanding was there would be a new note to this effect to "project leads list", but haven't seen it yet.

Let's get started planning for upcoming year ...

  • Ganymede Fall maintenance only?. Patches for "off cycle" fixes? Or ....

    Sept. Ganymede 3.0.1

    Patch Stream for post 3.0.0, pre 3.0.1 ... up to first week of August

  • Mid-year release?

    JPA 2.0.1 maintenance, on going, as usual

    JPA 2.1.0 December, new features

  • 2009, Io Release?


Education: Naci Dai

Resource Page Proposal


Planning: David Williams

  • We may need another 2.0.2 patch -- and/or another release!, 2.0.3, to collect these "bad bugs".
    • 201318 [hotbug] EAR Libraries container fails to initialize for 2.5 web project. Fixed, need to create patch still.
    • 230256 hotbug_request] jst.jee JEEDeployableFactory refuses to load ejb3 module
  • Ganymede RC1 ready (Monday). WTP RC2 ready today?
  • PMC Review
  • Review Materials
    • Small updates made (changed name of JBoss product, added checklist of Ganymede TODO items.


Quality: Neil Hauge


    WTP User Experience Lead: Kaloyan Raev

    • Kaloyan still considering to do a walktrhough ... Wednesday? Or week from Wednesday?
    • Working on "use cases" document, for novice user. Should be ready for public review and comments in a few weeks.


    Architecture: Tim deBoer

    • Tim will find out specific "advise to give developers (and auto-test teams)" to implement the WTP API policy (which tools/build reports to use).
    • Recommended to restart the protected non-api scans.
    • Will not accept new data, for now, but if tooling could be improved to detect/remove additional (non-protected) data, then perhaps it'd be useful to show non-api use going down.
    • But, an update: Have discovered that current ones are nearly meaningless, since so much as changed, so scan's show us as "changing protected API", but it's not protected API any longer.
      • Concluded we should still run the scans, as sort of a "unit test" to see if any new, unexpected breakage. Run occasionally, that is, such as every milestone?
      • We'll need to tell developers to "make use of as best they can" since it includes lots of noise.
      • We may look at easy ways to reduce noise ... such as to "diff" with previous, or some particular reference report.
      • It was suggested at some point we may want to put the work back on adopters to sanitize their data, but, that might still require more work on our part to make sure no new usage data was added.


    General business?

    PMC Calendar

    • Eclipse World:
      Raghu and Neil have submitted.
    • Eclipse European Summit

    Back to meeting list.

    Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.

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