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WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for November 13, 2007 Conference Call

WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for November 13, 2007 Conference Call

Call Info

Tollfree in the US: 877-421-0030
Alternate: 770-615-1247
Access code: 800388#
Full list of phone numbers

Call Time: 1500 UTC


PMC Members

  • David Williams: Y
  • Naci Dai: N
  • Raghunathan Srinivasan: N
  • Neil Hauge: Y
  • Tim deBoer: Y

Invited Guests

  • Bob Goodman (ATF): Y

Planning Council Report

  • Official Minutes
  • We will own, at least, the "Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers" distribution and remove our "WTP all in ones". The goal is to do more cross-project testing and promotion.
  • Ganymede dates "compressed" to allow for 3 levels of dependancies. The expectation was to try to get to where all builds done quick, and then do smoke or final testing. (I could not convince the room what a bad idea this was, for some reason). We are still +2 which is now approximately 1 week. The package distributions will be built immediately and everyone is to encourage testing with those packages, instead of just our own.
  • Action item: update our "planning" documents with dates for Ganymede and Winter maintenance


Tim asked "what are +3 projects?" I recalled, I think GMF, SOA Toosl, but sent not to planning council to confirm and get complete list

EclipseWorld Trip Report

  • Good conference. Reston was nice trip! Will be there next year too.
  • Small: approximately 400 people. Definitly was more for "end users" than EclispeCon.
  • Approximately 50 people per class. Naci bragged he had even more, many had to stand up :)
  • Action item: we need to maintain our "presenations downloads" page!
  • EclipseWorld 2007, NOV. 6-8, RESTON, VA.
    WTP Presentations (See the complete program for closely related presentations):
    • David Williams: How to Create Web Applications With Eclipse (Wednesday, Nov. 7, 9:15 am - 10:30 am)
    • Naci Dai: Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 1 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 10:00 am - 11:15 am)
      Developing SOA-Ready Java Web Applications, Part 2 (Thursday, Nov. 8, 11:30 am - 12:45 pm)
    • Raghu Srinivasan: Building Great JavaServer Faces Applications With Eclipse Tools (Thursday, Nov. 8, 2:00 pm - 3:15 pm)
    • Neil Hauge: Using the Java Persistence Applications With Eclipse JPA and Dali (Thursday, Nov. 8, 4:00 pm - 5:15 pm)


Everyone agreed it's important to maintain our "community resources" and presentations page. Action item: David to post instructions and reminders, especially, even, for eclipseCon and Eclipse Summit.

EclipseCon 2008

  • Soliciting proposals. Due this Friday, 19th!


Neil asked about "extending JPA", so resent the table being used for planning.

check other categories now for potential webtools submissions

Reports and Actions from our PMC Roles

Requirements: Raghu Srinivasan

Education: Naci Dai

Planning: David Williams

  • Ready for M3? (Everyone thought "yes")

Community Relations: David Williams

Quality: Neil Hauge

Architecture: Tim deBoer

ATF Status

  • Planning meeting today! ... to help drive contributions/committers

Other business?

  • Be aware of new proposal: The Eclipse Integration for Apache Maven (IAM) Project (


Send reminder note about CVS restructuring

Action Items

  • David: Will call for Project Lead vote on WTP Policy on Package Visibility
  • David: update 3.0 milestone plans with focus items.
  • Raghu: create a wiki page: a checklist for how to lower the barrier to participation for all projects
  • David: create wiki page for 3rd-party requirements
  • WTP Refactor followup: Need to update website. Project Leads will need to take ownership of their own pages. See bug 201331

Closed Action Items

  • David: Reorg CVS. See CVS Restructuring Proposal
    In progress, but moving to "closed" since no further "management" attention required.

PMC Calendar

  • OS Summit Asia - November 26-30
  • WTP 3.0 - June 30, 2008
                    0 Milestones                    +2 Milestones
         M1 - August 10, 2007               August 24, 2007
         M2 - September 21, 2007            October 5, 2007
         M3 - November 2, 2007              November 16, 2007
         M4 - December 14, 2007             January 8, 2008
         M5 - February 8, 2008              February 22, 2008

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Please send any additions or corrections to David Williams.

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