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WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for November 07, 2006 Conference Call

WTP PMC Agenda/Minutes for November 07, 2006 Conference Call

Call Info

Tollfree in the US: 866-214-3176
Alternate: 404-827-9098
Access code: 8870689#

Call Time: 7am PDT / 10am PDT


PMC Members

  • Tim Wagner: R
  • David Williams: Y
  • Naci Dai: Y
  • Raghunathan Srinivasan: Y
  • Jochen Krause: R
  • Arthur Ryman: Y

Invited Guests

  • Neil Hauge (JPA/Dali): Y
  • Bob Goodman (AFT): Y
  • Jean Choi: N
  • Rob Frost (proxy for Tim): Y
  • Pieter Humphrey: Y


  • Pieter Humphrey: community activity and status

EclipseCon: Web Development Track

  • Tutorials: Quota is 1 long and 3 short

Raw notes and rough ordering from today's discussion

Long Tutorials
  • *3581 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial Extending the Web Tools Platform
    A good, basic, overall "extending WTP" theme.
  • 3668 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial BEA Workshop Studio JPA (Java Persistence API) Tutorial
    sounds too focused on Commercial Product, for most Eclipse attendee's tastes
  • 3666 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial BEA Workshop for JSF Tutorial
    sounds too focused on Commercial Product, for most Eclipse attendee's tastes
    but, consider talks in other areas, such as "business" area, for the BEA "blended development model"
  • 3637 EclipseCon 2007 Long Tutorial Extending the JavaServer Faces Tools project
    good, but long
Short Tutorials
  • *3633 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Building applications with the Java Persistence API and Dali
  • *3654 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Working with the JavaServer Faces Tools Project
    Raghu, Cameron, creating and extending (new component library)
  • +3634 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Extending the XML and source editors from the WTP Project
    (merge with another? such as Naci and John's long tutorial? con: many interested are not interested in webtools, per se, just XML)
  • +3638 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Java Web Application Development with Eclipse WTP
    Naci, Arthur, Lawrence. good, but is it a "in the book" case?
  • +3576 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Extending the Ajax Toolkit Framework
    Philippe. sounds complex -- plus, need to have balance on "building apps" (less on "extending WTP")
  • 3625 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Developing Rich Applications with JSF and AJAX
    Max, Excedel. Sounds interesting, maybe a little complex for short tutorial? Maybe not so much on Eclipse WTP, per se?
  • 3677 EclipseCon 2007 Short Tutorial Using the Web Tools Platform in Headless Mode
    Sounds interesting to limited audience. Maybe could be "converted" to a long talk?


  • ACLs added to allow Dali, JSF, and ATF write access to webtools website cvs

Requirements and 2.0 Planning

1.5.2, 1.5.3, and 2.0 Status

  • 1.5.2 released
  • Will need "feature patch" for one blocking bug
    (in approximately one week)
  • 1.5.3 builds started ... no smoke/tests declares for a bit
  • M3 coming up 11/15 for 2.0.

JSF status

  • Use case doc for facets written (see bug)
  • Working on plan -- end of week

Dali Status

  • Pheonix Website? Arthur to start Phoenix subdirectory for incremental conversion
  • get into wtp build wed., or thur this week
  • SDK builds
  • planning another meeting, after new year

ATF Status

Tech Preview

Planning for the first part of January. We didn't want to do it the at the end of the year, since we were afraid that any announcement wouldn't be noticed with everything going on around Christmas. Also, a lot of team will be out of the office around Christmas. There are two things that we want to get into the Tech Preview which are Mac support and a supported version of Mozilla's XULRunner 1.8.1. There is a lot of demand for Mac, so we thing that this would be a good addition to the Tech Preview. We are using an hand built version of Mozilla's XULRunner 1.8.1. We are working with Mozilla to begin official build of XULRunner 1.8.1, We didn't want to do a Tech Preview with a hand built unsupported version of XULRunner.

APIs Definition

Defining APIs, wasn't consider when considered when developing ATF. We will need to define the API's and then implement them. We have started looking at the areas we want to define API's. We also plan to start a discussion on our listserv, so the community can weigh in on the areas that they consider important for APIs. By the time we are ready to do a Tech Preview, we should know the areas that we want to define APIs, but the API's won't be defined.

JavaScript Editor.

We plan to announce out plan to do a new JavaScript editor. We plan to post a detail proposal to solicit community feedback, possible alternatives, additional project participation, and ways the project can be leveraged from the Eclipse membership-at-large.

Action Items and Owners

  • David: send note to allow access to website, for jsf, dali, and atf committers [done]
Agenda/Minutes by David Williams, November 07, 2006. Please send any corrections needed.

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