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Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #244927] Wed, 27 June 2007 16:18 Go to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

Hi,

I need some simple JavaScript debugging and editing tools. Saw that
MyEclipse integrates well with Eclipse 3.2.1.

I was wondering if anyone uses MyEclipse and what they think of it???

DemonDuck
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #244951 is a reply to message #244927] Wed, 27 June 2007 17:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com

DemonDuck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need some simple JavaScript debugging and editing tools. Saw that
> MyEclipse integrates well with Eclipse 3.2.1.
>
> I was wondering if anyone uses MyEclipse and what they think of it???

I've used it in the past and thought it was worth the relatively low
price. My understanding is that it has been quite refined since the
early days when I was a customer.
Having said that, I currently use a combination of free tools for
Javascript development: JSEclipse for editing and Firebug for debugging
(in Firefox). Both of these are excellent tools.

Hope this helps,
Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #244998 is a reply to message #244951] Thu, 28 June 2007 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: jacek.pospychala.pl.ibm.com

Did you tried ATF javascript debugger?

I haven't, but i've seen this demo: http://live.eclipse.org/node/306
which looks really cool.

It shows how to debug a javascript on webpage referenced by URL.
The ATF framework makes use of Mozilla browser and Eclipse debugger
framework,
so you can put breakpoints like you normally do in java files.

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> DemonDuck wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need some simple JavaScript debugging and editing tools. Saw that
>> MyEclipse integrates well with Eclipse 3.2.1.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone uses MyEclipse and what they think of it???
>
> I've used it in the past and thought it was worth the relatively low
> price. My understanding is that it has been quite refined since the
> early days when I was a customer.
> Having said that, I currently use a combination of free tools for
> Javascript development: JSEclipse for editing and Firebug for
> debugging (in Firefox). Both of these are excellent tools.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245081 is a reply to message #244951] Fri, 29 June 2007 17:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

Hi Eric,

Tried to install Firebug but couldn't do it. Said I was blocking software installation.

Exact Message:Software installation is currently disabled. Click Edit Option ... to enable it and try again.

But I'm not blocking...

Oh well....

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> DemonDuck wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need some simple JavaScript debugging and editing tools. Saw that
>> MyEclipse integrates well with Eclipse 3.2.1.
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone uses MyEclipse and what they think of it???
>
>
> I've used it in the past and thought it was worth the relatively low
> price. My understanding is that it has been quite refined since the
> early days when I was a customer.
> Having said that, I currently use a combination of free tools for
> Javascript development: JSEclipse for editing and Firebug for debugging
> (in Firefox). Both of these are excellent tools.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245088 is a reply to message #245081] Fri, 29 June 2007 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

I just downloaded JSEclipse 1.5.5 from their new location at Adobe Labs.

http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_js eclipse

The down load is over 4 meg and is over half filled with Flash documentation.

The JSEclips jar file is 1.7 meg. There are no installation instructions.

I'm scared... I'm actually afraid to install it. I fear Adobe will stick their
fingers into everything I'm doing and mess up a stable Eclipse installation.

Why do they do that kind of stuff?

DemonDuck wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Tried to install Firebug but couldn't do it. Said I was blocking
> software installation.
>
> Exact Message:Software installation is currently disabled. Click Edit
> Option ... to enable it and try again.
> But I'm not blocking...
>
> Oh well....
>
> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>
>> DemonDuck wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I need some simple JavaScript debugging and editing tools. Saw that
>>> MyEclipse integrates well with Eclipse 3.2.1.
>>>
>>> I was wondering if anyone uses MyEclipse and what they think of it???
>>
>>
>>
>> I've used it in the past and thought it was worth the relatively low
>> price. My understanding is that it has been quite refined since the
>> early days when I was a customer.
>> Having said that, I currently use a combination of free tools for
>> Javascript development: JSEclipse for editing and Firebug for
>> debugging (in Firefox). Both of these are excellent tools.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245092 is a reply to message #245088] Fri, 29 June 2007 21:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com

DemonDuck wrote:
> I just downloaded JSEclipse 1.5.5 from their new location at Adobe Labs.
>
> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_js eclipse
>
> The down load is over 4 meg and is over half filled with Flash
> documentation.
>
> The JSEclips jar file is 1.7 meg. There are no installation instructions.
>
> I'm scared... I'm actually afraid to install it. I fear Adobe will
> stick their
> fingers into everything I'm doing and mess up a stable Eclipse
> installation.
>
> Why do they do that kind of stuff?

They use Flash for documentation because it is a richer experience than
plain HTML and Adobe owns Flash. I see no problem nor surprise there.
I don't find a 1.7MB JAR for such a rich plug-in to be excessive.
Fears about Adobe poking their fingers where they don't belong may or
may not be well-founded, but you can always install via the Update
Manager, making sure to install to a separate location outside your main
Eclipse installation. That makes it trivial to disable the plugin via
Manage Configuration, if necessary. The Adobe page for JSEclipse
includes a link to Installation Instructions, via Update Manager.

Hope this helps,
Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245097 is a reply to message #245081] Fri, 29 June 2007 21:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com

DemonDuck wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Tried to install Firebug but couldn't do it. Said I was blocking
> software installation.
>
> Exact Message:Software installation is currently disabled. Click Edit
> Option ... to enable it and try again.
> But I'm not blocking...

Are you sure? For Firefox 2.0 it is under the Security tab of the
Options dialog.
When you clicked the Install link for Firebug did you see the yellow
alert bar at the top of your browser window (just below the address
bar)? It should have displayed a warning that an add-on was trying to
install.

Hope this helps,
Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245102 is a reply to message #245092] Fri, 29 June 2007 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

Yeah, I stumbled across this web page that explains how to use the Update Manager.

http://www.interaktonline.com/Documentation/JSEclipse/wf_njs .htm

Worked like a charm. The Update Manager is the only way to install plugins IMHO.

So now I have JSEclipse working just fine -- Thanks a bunch Eric...


Eric Rizzo wrote:
> DemonDuck wrote:
>
>> I just downloaded JSEclipse 1.5.5 from their new location at Adobe Labs.
>>
>> http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_js eclipse
>>
>> The down load is over 4 meg and is over half filled with Flash
>> documentation.
>>
>> The JSEclips jar file is 1.7 meg. There are no installation
>> instructions.
>>
>> I'm scared... I'm actually afraid to install it. I fear Adobe will
>> stick their
>> fingers into everything I'm doing and mess up a stable Eclipse
>> installation.
>>
>> Why do they do that kind of stuff?
>
>
> They use Flash for documentation because it is a richer experience than
> plain HTML and Adobe owns Flash. I see no problem nor surprise there.
> I don't find a 1.7MB JAR for such a rich plug-in to be excessive.
> Fears about Adobe poking their fingers where they don't belong may or
> may not be well-founded, but you can always install via the Update
> Manager, making sure to install to a separate location outside your main
> Eclipse installation. That makes it trivial to disable the plugin via
> Manage Configuration, if necessary. The Adobe page for JSEclipse
> includes a link to Installation Instructions, via Update Manager.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245107 is a reply to message #245097] Fri, 29 June 2007 23:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

Yeah, that's where the error message is -- in the yellow bar at the top.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843

That's the download page I'm using. I must have something set somewhere that
disables downloading of addons. But I can't find it.

I'm still running 1.5.0.12 and the Security tab is under the Advanced button.
And on the Security tab it asks which SSL to use and how to handle certificates.

I emailed Joe Hewitt -- waiting for a reply.

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> DemonDuck wrote:
>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> Tried to install Firebug but couldn't do it. Said I was blocking
>> software installation.
>>
>> Exact Message:Software installation is currently disabled. Click Edit
>> Option ... to enable it and try again.
>> But I'm not blocking...
>
>
> Are you sure? For Firefox 2.0 it is under the Security tab of the
> Options dialog.
> When you clicked the Install link for Firebug did you see the yellow
> alert bar at the top of your browser window (just below the address
> bar)? It should have displayed a warning that an add-on was trying to
> install.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245111 is a reply to message #245107] Fri, 29 June 2007 23:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

Well, I figured it out -- here's the email I sent to Joe Hewitt

Hi Joe,

I had Java and Javascript enabled -- that's right -- enabled. And that blocked the installation.

Why????

But then I ran into another problem. I'm running Win2K not XP and you've got it in an
XPInstaller....

What do I do now???

DemonDuck wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's where the error message is -- in the yellow bar at the top.
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
>
> That's the download page I'm using. I must have something set somewhere
> that
> disables downloading of addons. But I can't find it.
> I'm still running 1.5.0.12 and the Security tab is under the Advanced
> button.
> And on the Security tab it asks which SSL to use and how to handle
> certificates.
>
> I emailed Joe Hewitt -- waiting for a reply.
>
> Eric Rizzo wrote:
>
>> DemonDuck wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> Tried to install Firebug but couldn't do it. Said I was blocking
>>> software installation.
>>>
>>> Exact Message:Software installation is currently disabled. Click Edit
>>> Option ... to enable it and try again.
>>> But I'm not blocking...
>>
>>
>>
>> Are you sure? For Firefox 2.0 it is under the Security tab of the
>> Options dialog.
>> When you clicked the Install link for Firebug did you see the yellow
>> alert bar at the top of your browser window (just below the address
>> bar)? It should have displayed a warning that an add-on was trying to
>> install.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245170 is a reply to message #245107] Mon, 02 July 2007 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com

DemonDuck wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's where the error message is -- in the yellow bar at the top.
>
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
>
> That's the download page I'm using. I must have something set somewhere
> that
> disables downloading of addons. But I can't find it.

Firefox blocks all add-on installations by default - you have to
specifically allow each domain/site by clicking the "Options" button in
the yellow banner (or by adding the site via Preferences > Security >
Exceptions)
This is a security mechanism, to avoid the mess that IE created years
ago by allowing any site to install executable code without notifying
the user.

Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245175 is a reply to message #245170] Mon, 02 July 2007 05:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

It was something else. I had Javascript and Java enabled. I unchecked them
and it at least attempted the install.

Second problem. Firebug comes in an .xpi installer. I'm running Win2K.

Frustrating because I have all the Firebug js stuff but don't know how to install
by hand. I wrote Joe Hewitt....

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> DemonDuck wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, that's where the error message is -- in the yellow bar at the top.
>>
>> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843
>>
>> That's the download page I'm using. I must have something set
>> somewhere that
>> disables downloading of addons. But I can't find it.
>
>
> Firefox blocks all add-on installations by default - you have to
> specifically allow each domain/site by clicking the "Options" button in
> the yellow banner (or by adding the site via Preferences > Security >
> Exceptions)
> This is a security mechanism, to avoid the mess that IE created years
> ago by allowing any site to install executable code without notifying
> the user.
>
> Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245190 is a reply to message #245175] Mon, 02 July 2007 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: eclipse5.rizzoweb.com

DemonDuck wrote:
> It was something else. I had Javascript and Java enabled. I unchecked
> them
> and it at least attempted the install.
> Second problem. Firebug comes in an .xpi installer. I'm running Win2K.

The .xpi extension has nothing to do with Windows XP - it is just the
name Mozilla uses for add-ons. I just installed Firebug on Win2k and it
worked fine (after I explicitly allowed www.getfirebug.com to install
add-ons).

Eric
Re: Does anyone out there use MyEclipse for web development??? [message #245194 is a reply to message #245190] Mon, 02 July 2007 16:42 Go to previous message
Eclipse User
Originally posted by: kwarner.uneedspeed.net

I explicitly allow http://www.getfirebug.com/ to install.

I open the exceptions dialog and enter http://www.getfirebug.com/

When I click install on http://www.getfirebug.com/ I get dialog that asks me
what to do with firebug1.0-current.xpi -- Open with --Browse or Save to Disk.

If I save to disk then try to open it -- naturally nothing happens.

If I Open with Firefox -- nothing happens.

Nothing happens. I give up....

I've written Joe Hewlett twice. No response.

Eric Rizzo wrote:
> DemonDuck wrote:
>
>> It was something else. I had Javascript and Java enabled. I
>> unchecked them
>> and it at least attempted the install. Second problem. Firebug comes
>> in an .xpi installer. I'm running Win2K.
>
>
> The .xpi extension has nothing to do with Windows XP - it is just the
> name Mozilla uses for add-ons. I just installed Firebug on Win2k and it
> worked fine (after I explicitly allowed www.getfirebug.com to install
> add-ons).
>
> Eric
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