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Subclipse vs. Subversive [message #14826] Fri, 21 March 2008 15:30 Go to next message
Steve Whatmore is currently offline Steve WhatmoreFriend
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Can someone provide a definitive description of the differences between
Subclipse and Subversive, it is not immediately clear what (if any) the
relationship is between the two plugins. This is based on a number of online
articles that I have read that lead me to believe the Subclipse is being
rolled into Subversive or maybe it was the other way around.

Thanks in advance.
Re: Subclipse vs. Subversive [message #14857 is a reply to message #14826] Sat, 22 March 2008 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner KeilFriend
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Steve,

Subversive has emerged to become an official Eclipse Subproject a little
while ago. Subclipse is lead by the group behind the Subversion server,
but so far I have not seen evidence of their plans to join Subversive or
the Eclipse Foundation. An invitation to that has been turned down by
them AFAIK.

I've been using both plugins a lot in real life project situations.
While earlier versions of Subversive turned out to be largely
incompatible with Eclipse based products like JBuilder 2007 or Borland
Together I hope, some of these problems may have been solved in the
course of becoming an Eclipse project? I last saw those problems when it
was still a Polarion-only proprietary project.

Aside from that and a few minor issues with recent Ganymede builds (M4)
I have been quite happy with Subversive.
Although Subclipse may have picked some of those up, it has a couple of
advantages, mainly better support for the SVN "trunk" concept.
And a "tag" mechanism based on similar standard folders in the
repository. Which allows clean and consistent tag labeling without
having to copy entire folders or create branches.

I hope, this short outline helps you to understand differences between
the 2 plugins? I'm sure, the actual Subversive members could also add
something they consider worth pointing out?

Werner
Re: Subclipse vs. Subversive [message #14887 is a reply to message #14857] Mon, 24 March 2008 12:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Steve Whatmore is currently offline Steve WhatmoreFriend
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Thank you very much for the description (I was expecting a RTFM type of
response)


"Werner Keil" <werner.keil@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> Steve,
>
> Subversive has emerged to become an official Eclipse Subproject a little
> while ago. Subclipse is lead by the group behind the Subversion server,
> but so far I have not seen evidence of their plans to join Subversive or
> the Eclipse Foundation. An invitation to that has been turned down by them
> AFAIK.
>
> I've been using both plugins a lot in real life project situations.
> While earlier versions of Subversive turned out to be largely incompatible
> with Eclipse based products like JBuilder 2007 or Borland Together I hope,
> some of these problems may have been solved in the course of becoming an
> Eclipse project? I last saw those problems when it was still a
> Polarion-only proprietary project.
>
> Aside from that and a few minor issues with recent Ganymede builds (M4) I
> have been quite happy with Subversive.
> Although Subclipse may have picked some of those up, it has a couple of
> advantages, mainly better support for the SVN "trunk" concept.
> And a "tag" mechanism based on similar standard folders in the repository.
> Which allows clean and consistent tag labeling without having to copy
> entire folders or create branches.
>
> I hope, this short outline helps you to understand differences between the
> 2 plugins? I'm sure, the actual Subversive members could also add
> something they consider worth pointing out?
>
> Werner
Re: Subclipse vs. Subversive [message #15005 is a reply to message #14887] Mon, 24 March 2008 15:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Werner Keil is currently offline Werner KeilFriend
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You're welcome.

Not necessarily for Subversive yet, but for a lot of other projects I
WTFM ("Write The Fucking Manual") so I am used to descriptions or
comparisons of their features, too.

Glad, it helped,
Werner
Re: Subclipse vs. Subversive [message #15022 is a reply to message #14826] Tue, 25 March 2008 13:01 Go to previous message
Igor Vinnykov is currently offline Igor VinnykovFriend
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Hi Steve,

Both Subversive and Subclipse just do their job. Using both of them you will
be able to work with SVN. But there are few differences, mostly related with
usability, extensibility and general way, selected by two teams:

1. Subversive is and "official" eclipse.org project. It means that
Subversive has all project infrastructure at eclipse.org, project plan is
synchronized with Eclipse development and Subversive is a part of
simultaneus Ganymdede release.
2. Subversive team actively participate in life of the Eclipse Community.
Subversive team memebers take part in EclipseCon, Eclipse Summit Europe,
other events.
3. Subversive provides easy API and reusable components for integration with
other plugins. As the result there are set of integrations with open-source
and commecial projects, which continuously grows.
4. Subversive provides support for different project layouts, cary about
trunk, brances, tags structure, etc.
5. Subversive has feature for features browsing.
6. Other minor differences - UI polishing, icons, few differences in
operations

Maybe Subclipse has some features better then Subversive - Subclipse users
can post here their thoughts, so you can see objective picture.
Selection of any of these plugins is a topic of personal taste. You can
download both, try and make your own choice.

Best regards,
Igor Vinnykov

"Steve Whatmore" <steven.whatmore@lynxdev.com>
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