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Can I update from v3.6.1 --> v3.7 and keep all settings? [message #701665] Mon, 25 July 2011 12:17 Go to next message
Ben StoverFriend
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I work currently with v3.6.1 (32bit under 64bit Win7) and have made lots of adjustments and installed many plugins.

Can I somehow upgrade this installation to the new v3.7 and KEEP all these settings and plugins?

Or do I have to re-install and re-adjust everything from the beginning?

If upgrade is possible: How do I do this?

Simply by installing v3.7 into the same directory as v3.6.1 or by export and re-import settings (how exactly) ?

Ben
(no subject) [message #701938 is a reply to message #701665] Mon, 25 July 2011 18:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
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On 7/25/11 8:17 AM, Ben wrote:
> I work currently with v3.6.1 (32bit under 64bit Win7) and have made lots
> of adjustments and installed many plugins.
>
> Can I somehow upgrade this installation to the new v3.7 and KEEP all
> these settings and plugins?
>
> Or do I have to re-install and re-adjust everything from the beginning?
>
> If upgrade is possible: How do I do this?
>
> Simply by installing v3.7 into the same directory as v3.6.1 or by export
> and re-import settings (how exactly) ?

There's a couple of ways to proceed, but one thing you definitely DON'T
want to do is to download 3.7 (Indigo) and extract it into the same
directory as 3.6 (Helios).
My recommendation is to install an Indigo package into a new directory,
then point it to your existing workspace when you start it up.
Then, you can do this (copied from
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.7-201106131736/eclipse-news-part1.html):


"You can now easily install software directly from another product.
Select File > Import > Install > From Existing Installation , then
select the location of any locally installed Eclipse-based product. You
can then select what software items from that product you want to
install in the current application."

Eric
Re: Can I update from v3.6.1 --> v3.7 and keep all settings? [message #703336 is a reply to message #701665] Wed, 27 July 2011 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David I is currently offline David IFriend
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I tried to do this from Helios to Indigo and I see this error:

Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not be found.
Software being installed: Eclipse SDK 3.6.0.I20100603-1500 (org.eclipse.sdk.ide 3.6.0.I20100603-1500)
Missing requirement: Eclipse SDK 3.6.0.I20100603-1500 (org.eclipse.sdk.ide 3.6.0.I20100603-1500) requires 'org.eclipse.sdk.feature.group [3.6.0.v20100427-7Q7m-DPY2dP0s7OoL0uxqsfeNoiR0UXZVjlGt3wTTtACX]' but it could not be found

I am using the Linux 64 bit build now, and the older Eclipse was the Linux 32 bit version.

David
Re: Can I update from v3.6.1 --> v3.7 and keep all settings? [message #703565 is a reply to message #703336] Wed, 27 July 2011 17:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
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David I wrote on Wed, 27 July 2011 09:16
I tried to do this from Helios to Indigo and I see this error:

Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could not be found.
Software being installed: Eclipse SDK 3.6.0.I20100603-1500 (org.eclipse.sdk.ide 3.6.0.I20100603-1500)
Missing requirement: Eclipse SDK 3.6.0.I20100603-1500 (org.eclipse.sdk.ide 3.6.0.I20100603-1500) requires 'org.eclipse.sdk.feature.group [3.6.0.v20100427-7Q7m-DPY2dP0s7OoL0uxqsfeNoiR0UXZVjlGt3wTTtACX]' but it could not be found

I am using the Linux 64 bit build now, and the older Eclipse was the Linux 32 bit version.

David


What did you select to install from the old installation? You don't want/need to install any of the features that would have come in the new 3.7 package you downloaded, only stuff that you didn't get in 3.7. The most common example would be third-party plugins that you had in 3.6 and you want in your new 3.7. You would definitely not want anything from org.eclipse.*, that stuff you should get from the Indigo repository instead.
Re: Can I update from v3.6.1 --> v3.7 and keep all settings? [message #703609 is a reply to message #703565] Wed, 27 July 2011 18:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David I is currently offline David IFriend
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This is what I've done:

File->Import
Select Install->From Existing Installation
click Next
Browse to the older copy of Eclipse

The only thing that shows up in the table is "Eclipse SDK". I don't see any plugins listed, so I click Next. That is when I get the error.

I was hoping to see a list of plugins at some point, but it didn't happen.

David
(no subject) [message #704435 is a reply to message #701938] Thu, 28 July 2011 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
John McCabe is currently offline John McCabeFriend
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 14:50:42 -0400, Eric Rizzo
<eclipse-bugs@rizzoweb.com> wrote:

>My recommendation is to install an Indigo package into a new directory,
>then point it to your existing workspace when you start it up.
>Then, you can do this (copied from
>http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.7-201106131736/eclipse-news-part1.html):
>
>
>"You can now easily install software directly from another product.
>Select File > Import > Install > From Existing Installation , then
>select the location of any locally installed Eclipse-based product. You
>can then select what software items from that product you want to
>install in the current application."

As a matter of interest have you, or anyone here, tried this with
something like Qt Eclipse Integration or GNATBench? Both of these have
Windows installers that I believe puts bits and pieces elsewhere so I
just wondered if it's likely this would work.
Re: Can I update from v3.6.1 --> v3.7 and keep all settings? [message #704475 is a reply to message #703609] Thu, 28 July 2011 17:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David I is currently offline David IFriend
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Not sure if this matters, but I have a 64 bit Indigo on Linux pointing to a 32 bit version of Helios
(no subject) [message #704502 is a reply to message #703609] Thu, 28 July 2011 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
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On 7/27/11 2:42 PM, David I wrote:
> This is what I've done:
>
> File->Import
> Select Install->From Existing Installation
> click Next
> Browse to the older copy of Eclipse
>
> The only thing that shows up in the table is "Eclipse SDK". I don't see
> any plugins listed, so I click Next. That is when I get the error.
> I was hoping to see a list of plugins at some point, but it didn't happen.


I just tried installing into a new 3.7 from my 3.6 installation (which
has lots of additional features installed), and I get the same results.
I've opened https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=353348 to
track it; feel free to comment on it with the details of your
environment and/or your experience.

Eric
Re: (no subject) [message #715130 is a reply to message #701938] Fri, 12 August 2011 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ben StoverFriend
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Eric Rizzo wrote on Mon, 25 July 2011 14:50

There's a couple of ways to proceed, but one thing you definitely DON'T
want to do is to download 3.7 (Indigo) and extract it into the same
directory as 3.6 (Helios).
My recommendation is to install an Indigo package into a new directory,
then point it to your existing workspace when you start it up.
Then, you can do this (copied from
http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.7-201106131736/eclipse-news-part1.html):


"You can now easily install software directly from another product.
Select File > Import > Install > From Existing Installation , then
select the location of any locally installed Eclipse-based product. You
can then select what software items from that product you want to
install in the current application."


Ok, thank you.

Is this also necessary for updates v3.6.1--->v3.6.2 ?
In other words: Does your recommendation (=NOT to extract new Eclipse version into the existing one) only apply to major updates or to minor updates (3.6.1--->3.6.2) as well?

Furthermore I wonder WHERE the menu part "Install->From existing installation" is.
When I click in v3.6.1 the menu File->Import... then it looks like the attached snapshot and I cannot find any "install" option.

When I apply an update through menu (not by extracting): Is there anything changed OUTSIDE the actual Eclipse installation directory e.g. in other (Win) directories or Registry as well?

Thank you
Ben

[Updated on: Fri, 12 August 2011 13:40]

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Re: (no subject) [message #716156 is a reply to message #715130] Tue, 16 August 2011 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
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On 8/12/11 9:23 AM, Ben wrote:
> Eric Rizzo wrote on Mon, 25 July 2011 14:50
>> There's a couple of ways to proceed, but one thing you definitely
>> DON'T want to do is to download 3.7 (Indigo) and extract it into the
>> same directory as 3.6 (Helios).
>> My recommendation is to install an Indigo package into a new
>> directory, then point it to your existing workspace when you start it up.
>> Then, you can do this (copied from
>> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.7-201106131736/eclipse-news-part1.html):
>>
>>
>>
>> "You can now easily install software directly from another product.
>> Select File > Import > Install > From Existing Installation , then
>> select the location of any locally installed Eclipse-based product.
>> You can then select what software items from that product you want to
>> install in the current application."
>
>
> Ok, thank you. In also necessary for updates v3.6.1--->v3.6.2 ?
> In other words: Does your recommendation NOT to extract new Eclipse
> version into the existing one: Does this apply only to major updates or
> to minor updates (3.6.1--->3.8.2) as well?

No, minor updates are typically done via the UI in Eclipse (Help > Check
for updates, or Help > Install New Software).

> When I apply an update through menu (not by extracting): Is there
> anything changed OUTSIDE the actual Eclipse installation directory e.g.
> in other (Win) directories or Registry as well?

No, Eclipse is pretty much self-contained in that sense.

Eric
Re: (no subject) [message #716163 is a reply to message #715130] Tue, 16 August 2011 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
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On 8/12/11 9:23 AM, Ben wrote:
> Eric Rizzo wrote on Mon, 25 July 2011 14:50
>> There's a couple of ways to proceed, but one thing you definitely
>> DON'T want to do is to download 3.7 (Indigo) and extract it into the
>> same directory as 3.6 (Helios).
>> My recommendation is to install an Indigo package into a new
>> directory, then point it to your existing workspace when you start it up.
>> Then, you can do this (copied from
>> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.7-201106131736/eclipse-news-part1.html):
>>
>>
>>
>> "You can now easily install software directly from another product.
>> Select File > Import > Install > From Existing Installation , then
>> select the location of any locally installed Eclipse-based product.
>> You can then select what software items from that product you want to
>> install in the current application."
>
>
> Ok, thank you. In also necessary for updates v3.6.1--->v3.6.2 ?
> In other words: Does your recommendation NOT to extract new Eclipse
> version into the existing one: Does this apply only to major updates or
> to minor updates (3.6.1--->3.8.2) as well?

No, minor updates are typically done via the UI in Eclipse (Help > Check
for updates, or Help > Install New Software).

> When I apply an update through menu (not by extracting): Is there
> anything changed OUTSIDE the actual Eclipse installation directory e.g.
> in other (Win) directories or Registry as well?

No, Eclipse is pretty much self-contained in that sense.

Eric
Re: (no subject) [message #716752 is a reply to message #716163] Thu, 18 August 2011 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ben StoverFriend
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solved. Ignore

[Updated on: Fri, 19 August 2011 13:25]

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Re: (no subject) [message #717933 is a reply to message #716752] Mon, 22 August 2011 18:37 Go to previous message
Eric Rizzo is currently offline Eric RizzoFriend
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On 8/18/11 6:23 AM, Ben wrote:
> Ok. Thank you. If I start now the minor update 3.6.1--->3.6.2 through menu
>
> Help->Install new software
> as suggested: Which site do I have to select?
>
> http://download.eclispe.org/release/helios
>
> ?
>
> If yes a couple of (unchecked/un-preselected) entries appear after a
> while e.g. Linux Tools,
> Collaboration
> EclipseRT
> SOA Development
> ..
>
>
> Are all these components part of the official core 3.6.2 minor release?
> Do I have to check them all manually?
>
> It seems to me that they belong to my plugins rather than to the "core"
> Eclipse IDE.
>
> Again: I only want to update core Eclipse v3.6.1--->v3.6.2 and not plugins
> just as if I would have installed v3.6.2 from scratch.
>
> I miss an entry "core Eclipse". Does it exist at all?

Virtually EVERYTHING in Eclipse is a plugin; the only thing that might
be called "core Eclipse" (from the user's perspective) is the Platform
stuff. So when you say "core IDE," what that really means depends on
what package you installed. If you just want to update what you already
have installed, try using Help > "Check For Updates" instead.

Eric
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