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Indigo -- WTF?? [message #691215] Fri, 01 July 2011 00:39 Go to next message
vincegata  is currently offline vincegata
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Same bugs as before

it starts indexing my project and shuts down in 3 seconds!!

if that happened to the software I write I would have been fired!

this should have been given the highest priority and fixed!!!

My grandma can write better software.

Frustrating!!


[Updated on: Fri, 01 July 2011 00:41]

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Re: Indigo -- WTF?? [message #691217 is a reply to message #691215] Fri, 01 July 2011 00:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Doug Schaefer is currently offline Doug Schaefer
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Well, if your grandma can get you the latest version of the Java VM, you'd be fine. There is a well known crash in certain versions of the JVM that happen while the CDT is indexing. It's fixed in newer ones. We didn't ask for the crash to happen, neither did we cause it.

Doug.
Re: Indigo -- WTF?? [message #691225 is a reply to message #691217] Fri, 01 July 2011 01:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vincegata  is currently offline vincegata
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I do have the latest but I am not fine


korben@fxbrain:~$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_26"



Indigo-people released the software knowing 100% that it will crash - too lazy to create a workaround!!



[Updated on: Fri, 01 July 2011 02:06]

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Re: Indigo -- WTF?? [message #691287 is a reply to message #691225] Fri, 01 July 2011 07:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Axel Mueller is currently offline Axel Mueller
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You should add "-XX:-UseCompressedOops" to your eclipse.ini
It is a bug in the 64Bit Java VM.


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Re: Indigo -- WTF?? [message #691462 is a reply to message #691287] Fri, 01 July 2011 13:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vincegata  is currently offline vincegata
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No no




that does not help




this piece of crap still shuts down




what a joke




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[Updated on: Fri, 01 July 2011 13:54]

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(no subject) [message #691469 is a reply to message #691462] Fri, 01 July 2011 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hagen
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On 07/01/2011 03:54 PM, vincegata wrote:
> that piece of crap still shuts down
> what a joke

Just get your money refund, then.
Re: (no subject) [message #691482 is a reply to message #691469] Fri, 01 July 2011 14:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vincegata  is currently offline vincegata
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This is about Eclipse-people

not having any responsibility

or self-conscious

by releasing software to community

that contain easily reproducible

serious fault.


Now I know a software vendor

that is as unscrupulous as MS.


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Re: (no subject) [message #691554 is a reply to message #691482] Fri, 01 July 2011 17:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
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Reading this thread, all I can think is that your behavior is simply
atrocious. You're not even capable of capitalizing your sentences
consistently nor using white space and punctuation appropriately.
Communicating in a civil manner is also apparently beyond your
capability. It's incredibly ironic that someone who sets such a poor
standard for communication and behavior would have the gall to hold
anyone or anything to a higher standard than their own pit level low.
Perhaps one day you'll grow up and then your grandma will be proud of you.

> This is about Eclipse-people
>
> not having any responsibility
> or self-conscious
> by releasing software to community
> that contain easily reproducible
> serious fault.
>
>
> Now I know a software vendor
> that is as unscrupulous as MS.
>
>
> -
>
>
Re: (no subject) [message #691582 is a reply to message #691554] Fri, 01 July 2011 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vincegata  is currently offline vincegata
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Hitler's behavior was atrocious, calling my writing atrocious is a long stretch and not correct English usage in this context. My sentences you quoted are properly written, capitalized, and punctuated.



I used to program for a living but currently I am a graduate student at one of those top Universities. Poor formatting is part of the message to emphasize my dissatisfaction with Eclipse Foundation that released a product with serious but obvious fault.




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[Updated on: Fri, 01 July 2011 19:37]

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Re: (no subject) [message #691605 is a reply to message #691582] Fri, 01 July 2011 19:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
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Comments below.

> My sentences you quoted are properly written, capitalized, and
> punctuated.
>
Too bad they don't teach grammar at top universities anymore.
> Same bugs as before
I would have thought this sentence would end with a period.
>
> it starts indexing my project and shuts down in 3 seconds!!
I would have thought this sentence would start with a capitable letter.
Also, sentences end with a single punctuation mark such as a period,
exclamation mark, or question mark.
>
> this should have been given the highest priority and fixed!!!
This is clearly the start of a new sentence requiring a capital letter.
Three exclamation marks are more of a temper trantrum than effective
communication.
>
> My grandma can write better software.
Clearly this a personal attack on the hard working folks who bring you
free software. Your grandma is highly unlikely to approve of such behavior.
>
> Frustrating!!
No doubt. But you might want to complain about that to folks who build
JVMs that crash.
>
>
> I used to program for a living but currently I am a graduate student
> at one of those top Universities.
I hope you learn a few new things about correct grammar and effective
communication.
> Poor formatting is part of the message
The message I get though is that you're lacking in effective
communication skills.
> to emphasize my dissatisfaction with Eclipse Foundation
Ultimately the foundation doesn't ship software. Hard working
individual like Doug Schaefer do that.
> that released a product with serious but obvious fault.
That's your perspective. His is that the JVM is buggy and you should
get one without that bug. Of course that's an outrageous suggestion
from your point of view and we're all entiled to our own point of view.
>
>
> -
>
Re: (no subject) [message #691668 is a reply to message #691605] Sat, 02 July 2011 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
vincegata  is currently offline vincegata
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Ed, I wrote "My sentences you quoted are properly written, capitalized, and punctuated." I referred to my sentences that you quoted in your post, those are properly written. The sentences in my other posts are obviously not properly written, and I did not claim otherwise. I was well prepared for the grad school. They do not teach me English here, I am not an English major.

Besides, my ability to write does not change the fact about the bug. It is caused by the bug in Sun JVM but programmers usually come up with a workarounds instead of releasing a faulty product.

Re: (no subject) [message #691880 is a reply to message #691668] Sat, 02 July 2011 17:31 Go to previous message
Ed Merks is currently offline Ed Merks
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It's questionable whether a bug in a particular JVM that causes specific
problems for certain software makes that software itself faulty...
You've got your opinion and others have their's...

Certainly I've run into a number of cases in EMF where there were
problems caused by the bugs in the Sun JDK, e.g., what we called the
Crimson DOM problem where the DOM implementation just didn't return
correct information. We did indeed design a workaround as much as
possible. But that wasn't a problem in the JVM itself; those kinds of
problems might well be hard to work around. I don't know. I don't know
if anyone tried. Perhaps they did and failed. Do you know for a fact
that no one has tried? I have to wonder too, is it really so hard to
get a JVM without this problem? It might be less work than all the
complaining you've done so far...


> Ed, I wrote "My sentences you quoted are properly written,
> capitalized, and punctuated." I referred to my sentences that you
> quoted in your post, those are properly written. The sentences in my
> other posts are obviously not properly written, and I did not claim
> otherwise. I was well prepared for the grad school. They do not teach
> me English here, I am not an English major.
>
> Besides, my ability to write does not change the fact about the bug.
> It is caused by the bug in Sun JVM but programmers usually come up
> with a workarounds instead of releasing a faulty product.
>
>
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