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Proposed BPMN 2.0 editor sub-project [message #661988] Mon, 28 March 2011 18:39 Go to next message
Robert Brodt is currently offline Robert Brodt
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Hi all,

We (Red Hat/JBoss) are proposing the creation of a BPMN 2.0-compliant graphical editor project as a sub-project of STP. We currently have a working prototype based on graphiti and the MDT BPMN2 meta model which will comprise the initial code contribution.

Until the proposal has been reviewed by the Eclipse Foundation, I'd like to use this news group to solicit feedback and involve interested parties in a discussion of this project.

If anyone's interested, the code is currently being hosted at github - reply to this post for details if you can't find it.

Regards,
Bob Brodt
Re: [stp-newsgroup] Proposed BPMN 2.0 editor sub-project [message #662108 is a reply to message #661988] Tue, 29 March 2011 11:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oisin Hurley is currently offline Oisin Hurley
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Hi Bob,
Congrats on the editor - it's looking good. Great to see some
work being done based on Graphiti. The STP project is effectively
rolled in with the SOA project now (see http://eclipse.org/soa/ )
so you should consider re-broadcasting your message to that
newsgroup and the related SOA project lists.

For the rest of the list here, there's some information available
on this BPMN2 editor at

http://kverlaen.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-bpmn-20-eclipse-edi tor.html

and the code is at

https://github.com/imeikas/BPMN2-Editor-for-Eclipse

cheers
--oh

--
Oisin Hurley
oisin.hurley@gmail.com
Re: Proposed BPMN 2.0 editor sub-project [message #668489 is a reply to message #661988] Thu, 05 May 2011 20:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marc Gille is currently offline Marc Gille
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Bob, we are very interested in this proposal as with Stardust (http://eclipse.org/proposals/soa.stardust/) we are having submitted a proposal for a complete BPM suite
which also contains a BPMN editor with e.g. simulation and debugging capabilities but also a runtime environment and end user portal with workflow, system integration
and document management. monitoring and reporting.


As there is overlap regarding the modeler between your proposal and Stardust, we think we should combine our efforts and build - and use - the "best BPMN modeler in the universe" together.

Starting with a clean codebase and the BPMN 2.0 metamodel is surely an excellent approach. However we have learned working with and on these things for a long time, that real world BPM modeling
needs a lot more than just a BPMN editor.

To leverage this expertise best for this project, we could - and are happy to - help with

* embedding the results of this project in Stardust,
* making sure that the necessary extension points for enhancements (e.g. for simulation, debugging, concurrent modelling, versioning, model cross references etc.) exist,
* testing end-to-end modeling and deployment and
* thoughts and code on certain modeling features we may have done pretty OK (e.g. swimlanes).

I suggest to do some webcasts on te current status of both projects to everybody who is interested and brainstorm on options after.
Re: Proposed BPMN 2.0 editor sub-project [message #668511 is a reply to message #668489] Thu, 05 May 2011 22:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Robert Brodt is currently offline Robert Brodt
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Hi Marc,

This is good news! I think the collaboration effort will be beneficial to both of our projects (and companies Wink).

As you may know Red Hat/JBoss will also be offering a BPMN engine (jBPM5) and I just want to ensure that any extensions to the editor will be applicable to a wide range of execution engines.

I'm looking forward to working with you and Jan and the rest of the SunGard team.

Regards,
Bob Brodt
Re: Proposed BPMN 2.0 editor sub-project [message #668527 is a reply to message #668511] Fri, 06 May 2011 05:27 Go to previous message
Marc Gille is currently offline Marc Gille
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Bob,

this is exactly where we need to be:

A great editor with general BPMN functionality, the ability to transparently overlay certain, possibly engine specific aspects and export thos properly during model deployxment.

We may even be able to reuse some of these overlays (e.g. cost and controlling aspects) acorss engines.

Marc
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