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[Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377168] Fri, 21 September 2007 14:02 Go to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as part
of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html.
Feedback is welcome.

Kenn
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377171 is a reply to message #377168] Mon, 24 September 2007 15:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: lucas.bigeardel.anyware-tech.com

Kenn Hussey a écrit :
> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as part
> of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html.
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Kenn
>
>
>

I would suggest adding an dev plan item for a reusable OCL widget for
edition purpose.

[OCL Tools component]:{Reusable OCL editor widget}

My idea would be to give user possibility to embbed such OCL widget as
part of their tools UI (eg: inside wizard page, console page, tabbed
propeties page, search page, ....).

Maybe could we inspire ourselve from the OCL interpreter example coming
from EMFT Query, having a MDT OCLViewer with M1/M2 support for OCL
editing, based on the MDT OCL Parser.

I already have a need for such feature in [EMFT Search] and can offer
reasonible contribution effort for that.

regards,
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377177 is a reply to message #377171] Mon, 24 September 2007 19:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Lucas,

I'm sure Miguel will give your suggestion (and contribution!) due
consideration when he puts together more detailed development plans for the
Ganymede release... at this point, the OCL Tools component has yet to be
provisioned. :(

Kenn

"lb" <lucas.bigeardel@anyware-tech.com> wrote in message
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> Kenn Hussey a
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377720 is a reply to message #377177] Tue, 25 September 2007 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: lucas.bigeardel.anyware-tech.com

Kenn Hussey a écrit :
> Lucas,
>
> I'm sure Miguel will give your suggestion (and contribution!) due
> consideration when he puts together more detailed development plans for the
> Ganymede release... at this point, the OCL Tools component has yet to be
> provisioned. :(
>
> Kenn
>

Kenn,

I'll take some time to talk with Miguel about that.

cheers,

- Lucas

> "lb" <lucas.bigeardel@anyware-tech.com> wrote in message
> news:fd8kcr$e9d$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> Kenn Hussey a écrit :
>>> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as
>>> part of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html.
>>> Feedback is welcome.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I would suggest adding an dev plan item for a reusable OCL widget for
>> edition purpose.
>>
>> [OCL Tools component]:{Reusable OCL editor widget}
>>
>> My idea would be to give user possibility to embbed such OCL widget as
>> part of their tools UI (eg: inside wizard page, console page, tabbed
>> propeties page, search page, ....).
>>
>> Maybe could we inspire ourselve from the OCL interpreter example coming
>> from EMFT Query, having a MDT OCLViewer with M1/M2 support for OCL
>> editing, based on the MDT OCL Parser.
>>
>> I already have a need for such feature in [EMFT Search] and can offer
>> reasonible contribution effort for that.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377726 is a reply to message #377168] Tue, 25 September 2007 15:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: lucas.bigeardel.anyware-tech.com

Kenn Hussey a écrit :
> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as part
> of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html.
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Kenn
>
>
>

Kenn,

could we consider a UML2 tools Diagram Search contribution (ie: EMFT
Search based) as possibly part of MDT UML2Tools ?

I could propose a patch for such feature, in a form of plugin offering
popup menu for selected X class in a Class Diagram for :

- associations references to class X
- compositions references to class X
- aggregations references to class X
- more ?

I'm not sure where this plugin should take place MDT/? or EMFT Search/UML2/?

In the one hand this would seems natural to me to have it somewhere in
UML2Tools, in the other hand I do understand this would add a very
optional dependency to UML2Tools.

Any idea ?

regards,

- Lucas
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377729 is a reply to message #377726] Tue, 25 September 2007 18:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
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Yes, that sounds like a great idea. Please work with Michael Golubev (the
UML2 Tools component lead) to ensure that it factors into his planning.

Kenn

"lb" <lucas.bigeardel@anyware-tech.com> wrote in message
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Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377987 is a reply to message #377168] Wed, 07 November 2007 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nicolas Rouquette is currently offline Nicolas RouquetteFriend
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Hi Kenn,

One area where the UML API is particularly weak on is protecting itself
in cases where exceptions are triggered precisely because something has
made the model ill-formed - e.g., a circular containment hierarchy, a
circular generalization hierarchy, etc... In some cases (e.g., circular
containment induced from a package merge operation gone bad), we can
even induce an infinite loop in the exception handling code that
attempts to undo the mess. I observed these things in the Eclipse 3.2
environment I work with (uml 2.0.4) From the CVS logs, I am not sure if
the issues are still there or not. If they are, is this the sort of
issue that could be considered for the MDT 1.1 plan?

Cheers,
-- Nicolas.


Kenn Hussey wrote:
> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as part
> of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html.
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Kenn
>
>
>
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #377988 is a reply to message #377987] Wed, 07 November 2007 15:46 Go to previous message
james bruck is currently offline james bruckFriend
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Hi Nicolas,

If possible, could you please raise specific defects (with steps to
reproduce the problem).
Contributions from the community regarding filling out the various
validation functions is always welcomed ;).

Cheers,
- James.

"Nicolas Rouquette" <nicolas.rouquette@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote in message
news:47315E30.4040903@jpl.nasa.gov...
> Hi Kenn,
>
> One area where the UML API is particularly weak on is protecting itself in
> cases where exceptions are triggered precisely because something has made
> the model ill-formed - e.g., a circular containment hierarchy, a circular
> generalization hierarchy, etc... In some cases (e.g., circular containment
> induced from a package merge operation gone bad), we can even induce an
> infinite loop in the exception handling code that attempts to undo the
> mess. I observed these things in the Eclipse 3.2 environment I work with
> (uml 2.0.4) From the CVS logs, I am not sure if the issues are still there
> or not. If they are, is this the sort of issue that could be considered
> for the MDT 1.1 plan?
>
> Cheers,
> -- Nicolas.
>
>
> Kenn Hussey wrote:
>> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as
>> part of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html.
>> Feedback is welcome.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>>
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #574360 is a reply to message #377168] Mon, 24 September 2007 15:16 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: lucas.bigeardel.anyware-tech.com

Kenn Hussey a écrit :
> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as part
> of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Kenn
>
>
>

I would suggest adding an dev plan item for a reusable OCL widget for
edition purpose.

[OCL Tools component]:{Reusable OCL editor widget}

My idea would be to give user possibility to embbed such OCL widget as
part of their tools UI (eg: inside wizard page, console page, tabbed
propeties page, search page, ....).

Maybe could we inspire ourselve from the OCL interpreter example coming
from EMFT Query, having a MDT OCLViewer with M1/M2 support for OCL
editing, based on the MDT OCL Parser.

I already have a need for such feature in [EMFT Search] and can offer
reasonible contribution effort for that.

regards,
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #574415 is a reply to message #377171] Mon, 24 September 2007 19:04 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
Messages: 1618
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Lucas,

I'm sure Miguel will give your suggestion (and contribution!) due
consideration when he puts together more detailed development plans for the
Ganymede release... at this point, the OCL Tools component has yet to be
provisioned. :(

Kenn

"lb" <lucas.bigeardel@anyware-tech.com> wrote in message
news:fd8kcr$e9d$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Kenn Hussey a
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #576591 is a reply to message #377177] Tue, 25 September 2007 07:58 Go to previous message
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Originally posted by: lucas.bigeardel.anyware-tech.com

Kenn Hussey a écrit :
> Lucas,
>
> I'm sure Miguel will give your suggestion (and contribution!) due
> consideration when he puts together more detailed development plans for the
> Ganymede release... at this point, the OCL Tools component has yet to be
> provisioned. :(
>
> Kenn
>

Kenn,

I'll take some time to talk with Miguel about that.

cheers,

- Lucas

> "lb" <lucas.bigeardel@anyware-tech.com> wrote in message
> news:fd8kcr$e9d$1@build.eclipse.org...
>> Kenn Hussey a écrit :
>>> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as
>>> part of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
>>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html
>>> Feedback is welcome.
>>>
>>> Kenn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I would suggest adding an dev plan item for a reusable OCL widget for
>> edition purpose.
>>
>> [OCL Tools component]:{Reusable OCL editor widget}
>>
>> My idea would be to give user possibility to embbed such OCL widget as
>> part of their tools UI (eg: inside wizard page, console page, tabbed
>> propeties page, search page, ....).
>>
>> Maybe could we inspire ourselve from the OCL interpreter example coming
>> from EMFT Query, having a MDT OCLViewer with M1/M2 support for OCL
>> editing, based on the MDT OCL Parser.
>>
>> I already have a need for such feature in [EMFT Search] and can offer
>> reasonible contribution effort for that.
>>
>> regards,
>>
>>
>
>
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #576771 is a reply to message #377168] Tue, 25 September 2007 15:53 Go to previous message
Eclipse UserFriend
Originally posted by: lucas.bigeardel.anyware-tech.com

Kenn Hussey a écrit :
> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as part
> of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Kenn
>
>
>

Kenn,

could we consider a UML2 tools Diagram Search contribution (ie: EMFT
Search based) as possibly part of MDT UML2Tools ?

I could propose a patch for such feature, in a form of plugin offering
popup menu for selected X class in a Class Diagram for :

- associations references to class X
- compositions references to class X
- aggregations references to class X
- more ?

I'm not sure where this plugin should take place MDT/? or EMFT Search/UML2/?

In the one hand this would seems natural to me to have it somewhere in
UML2Tools, in the other hand I do understand this would add a very
optional dependency to UML2Tools.

Any idea ?

regards,

- Lucas
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #576880 is a reply to message #377726] Tue, 25 September 2007 18:00 Go to previous message
Kenn Hussey is currently offline Kenn HusseyFriend
Messages: 1618
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Yes, that sounds like a great idea. Please work with Michael Golubev (the
UML2 Tools component lead) to ensure that it factors into his planning.

Kenn

"lb" <lucas.bigeardel@anyware-tech.com> wrote in message
news:fdbatb$e8o$1@build.eclipse.org...
> Kenn Hussey a
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #578412 is a reply to message #377168] Wed, 07 November 2007 06:41 Go to previous message
Nicolas Rouquette is currently offline Nicolas RouquetteFriend
Messages: 135
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Kenn,

One area where the UML API is particularly weak on is protecting itself
in cases where exceptions are triggered precisely because something has
made the model ill-formed - e.g., a circular containment hierarchy, a
circular generalization hierarchy, etc... In some cases (e.g., circular
containment induced from a package merge operation gone bad), we can
even induce an infinite loop in the exception handling code that
attempts to undo the mess. I observed these things in the Eclipse 3.2
environment I work with (uml 2.0.4) From the CVS logs, I am not sure if
the issues are still there or not. If they are, is this the sort of
issue that could be considered for the MDT 1.1 plan?

Cheers,
-- Nicolas.


Kenn Hussey wrote:
> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as part
> of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html
> Feedback is welcome.
>
> Kenn
>
>
>
Re: [Announce] MDT 1.1 development plan [message #578429 is a reply to message #377987] Wed, 07 November 2007 15:46 Go to previous message
james bruck is currently offline james bruckFriend
Messages: 1724
Registered: July 2009
Senior Member
Hi Nicolas,

If possible, could you please raise specific defects (with steps to
reproduce the problem).
Contributions from the community regarding filling out the various
validation functions is always welcomed ;).

Cheers,
- James.

"Nicolas Rouquette" <nicolas.rouquette@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote in message
news:47315E30.4040903@jpl.nasa.gov...
> Hi Kenn,
>
> One area where the UML API is particularly weak on is protecting itself in
> cases where exceptions are triggered precisely because something has made
> the model ill-formed - e.g., a circular containment hierarchy, a circular
> generalization hierarchy, etc... In some cases (e.g., circular containment
> induced from a package merge operation gone bad), we can even induce an
> infinite loop in the exception handling code that attempts to undo the
> mess. I observed these things in the Eclipse 3.2 environment I work with
> (uml 2.0.4) From the CVS logs, I am not sure if the issues are still there
> or not. If they are, is this the sort of issue that could be considered
> for the MDT 1.1 plan?
>
> Cheers,
> -- Nicolas.
>
>
> Kenn Hussey wrote:
>> A draft of the development plan for MDT 1.1, targeted for June 2008 as
>> part of the Ganymede simultaneous release, has been posted at
>> http://www.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/docs/plans/mdt_project_p lan_1_1.html
>> Feedback is welcome.
>>
>> Kenn
>>
>>
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